[Artyx80]

Hi everybody. Been playing Gothic 3 about 17 hours by now. I´m using the 1.73 community patch because the newer one gave me bad shadow problems and for some reason fps was much lower than on 1.73. Real issue is occasional freezes (mostly when I load a game) and crashes after playing awhile. Yesterday I finally got an error message, can someone look at this and maybe tell what is going on in the background and maybe find a solution? Should I increase the amount of virtual memory or something like that? Oh and my computer specs are:

Athlon x2 +4400
3gb ram
Ati HD 4650 1gb DDR3
Win7 32 bit

Cheers



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Error main message:
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Gothic3.exe
caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
in module <UNKNOWN> at 001B:75C1AB86


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Registers and callstack:
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Callstack:
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001B:75C1AB86 (0x0000106D 0x4FC8E951 0x00002134 0x00002134) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013AC5B4 (0x5A166E20 0x00002134 0x00002134 0x00002134) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013EB6FB (0x0000106D 0x00000001 0x00002134 0x5A166E20) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01425B6E (0x6E1A6820 0x6E1A6928 0x0012E6EC 0x000390F2) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01426A3D (0x6E1A6820 0x00000000 0x0006C780 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01426E32 (0x6E1A6820 0x6E1A6928 0x0006C780 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013EBCE5 (0x00000000 0x0006C780 0x00000002 0x7AC97420) <UNKNOWN>
001B:014101B4 (0x0006C780 0x00000002 0x00000000 0x7F9770DC) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013FFA16 (0x0006C780 0x00000002 0x7315278C 0x70FBC1B0) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01405004 (0x00002428 0x00000001 0x74C02F80 0x00C4B8E7) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013B08CB (0x7F9770A0 0x00002428 0x00000001 0x00830009) <UNKNOWN>
001B:00C4B8E7 (0x80000001 0x7E9D7FC8 0x3F800000 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>
001B:7FECF9E0 (0x00824EF0 0x009263B4 0x00824EB0 0x00824C40) <UNKNOWN>
001B:009263A2 (0x009AE644 0xE64025FF 0x25FF009A 0x009AE63C) <UNKNOWN>
001B:25FF009A (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>

Registers:
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EAX=00000030 EBX=00000000 ECX=00002131 EDX=00000001 ESI=4FC8E951
EDI=0000106D EBP=E64825FF ESP=E6482607 EIP=00000000 FLG=00010202
CS=001B DS=0023 SS=0023 ES=0023 FS=003B GS=0000

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History log:
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eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir -> Succesfully mounted 'Backup' -> 'Backup', Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir -> Succesfully mounted 'Snapshots' -> 'Snapshots', Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir -> Succesfully mounted 'Data/LogicalEditor' -> 'Data/LogicalEditor', Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir -> Succesfully mounted 'Data/Video' -> 'Data/Video', Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir - Mount incremental pack file: c:\omat\ohjelmat\steam\steamapps\common\gothic 3/Data/Music.p00 for folder:#G3:/Data/Music, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir -> Succesfully mounted 'Data/Music' -> 'Data/Music', Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir -> Succesfully mounted 'SaveGame' -> 'SaveGame', Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir - Mount incremental pack file: c:\omat\ohjelmat\steam\steamapps\common\gothic 3/Data/Speech_english.p00 for folder:#G3:/Data/Speech_english, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCVirtualFileSystem::MountDir -> Succesfully mounted 'Data/Speech_english' -> 'Data/Speech_english', Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCApplication::Create - can´t open local configfile ge3.ini, using master config values
, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware information <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
OS version information: 6.0.6000 Service Pack 0, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
Number of processors: 2, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
Physical memory total: 3219709952, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
Physical memory available: 2309492736, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
Virtual memory total: 2147352576, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
Virtual memory available: 1782468608, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
PageFile memory total: 6437613568, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
PageFile memory available: 4381040640, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
Memory load: 28 percent, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
SSE available: 1, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
SSE2 available: 1, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
NX Flag available: 1, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
RDTSC Flag available: 1, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
eCApplication::OnSize Received WM_SIZE message., Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
resizing..., Z:#472 -> '.\kernel\ge_message.cpp'
Gothic3.exe
caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
in module <UNKNOWN> at 001B:75C1AB86

Callstack:
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001B:75C1AB86 (0x0000106D 0x4FC8E951 0x00002134 0x00002134) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013AC5B4 (0x5A166E20 0x00002134 0x00002134 0x00002134) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013EB6FB (0x0000106D 0x00000001 0x00002134 0x5A166E20) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01425B6E (0x6E1A6820 0x6E1A6928 0x0012E6EC 0x000390F2) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01426A3D (0x6E1A6820 0x00000000 0x0006C780 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01426E32 (0x6E1A6820 0x6E1A6928 0x0006C780 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013EBCE5 (0x00000000 0x0006C780 0x00000002 0x7AC97420) <UNKNOWN>
001B:014101B4 (0x0006C780 0x00000002 0x00000000 0x7F9770DC) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013FFA16 (0x0006C780 0x00000002 0x7315278C 0x70FBC1B0) <UNKNOWN>
001B:01405004 (0x00002428 0x00000001 0x74C02F80 0x00C4B8E7) <UNKNOWN>
001B:013B08CB (0x7F9770A0 0x00002428 0x00000001 0x00830009) <UNKNOWN>
001B:00C4B8E7 (0x80000001 0x7E9D7FC8 0x3F800000 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>
001B:7FECF9E0 (0x00824EF0 0x009263B4 0x00824EB0 0x00824C40) <UNKNOWN>
001B:009263A2 (0x009AE644 0xE64025FF 0x25FF009A 0x009AE63C) <UNKNOWN>
001B:25FF009A (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) <UNKNOWN>

Registers:
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EAX=00000030 EBX=00000000 ECX=00002131 EDX=00000001 ESI=4FC8E951
EDI=0000106D EBP=E64825FF ESP=E6482607 EIP=00000000 FLG=00010202
CS=001B DS=0023 SS=0023 ES=0023 FS=003B GS=0000

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Memory dump and statistics:
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Memory statistics
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Physical memory total: 3070 MB
Physical memory available: 328 MB
Virtual memory total: 2047 MB
Virtual memory available: 107 MB
PageFile memory total: 6139 MB
PageFile memory available: 2545 MB
Memory load: 89 percent

SMALL / heaps: 203 blocks: 3379688/4539863 memory: 354719836/ 86544216/442064896 (used/free/windows)
MID / heaps: 62 blocks: 13964/ 14920 memory: 258089984/ 1956864/260046848 (used/free/windows)
LARGE / heaps: 1 blocks: 13/ 19 memory: 8269824/ 83144704/ 6807552 (used/peek/largest free)
BUFFER / heaps: 1 blocks: 0/ 4 memory: 0/ 82595/ 92160/ 92160 kB (used/peek/largest free/windows)

low fragment heap: true / allocs failed: 0/0 / last maxmimum block size: 0 / peak blocks allocated: 19 not empty! / block sizes: 266240<80220160

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Log created at: 03:42:08 PM

[mdahm]

Could it be that you didn't give the game admin rights?
And please activate the compatibility mode.

[Artyx80]

Could it be that you didn't give the game admin rights? And please activate the compatibility mode.

Hmh, it could be. Now I have given admin rights and compatibility mode is on XP SP3. Let´s put it to the test.. Thanx for the tip, why didn´t I try that before.

Edit: Tested and no help there.. Got an "Where´s guru" message once again.. Any other ideas? I have increased the amount of virtual memory already. Could it be my HD 4650?

[mdahm]

Maybe it's simply an out of memory issue.
I don't have experience with Win 7, so I'm not sure if there still is a boot.ini file that could be edited to inlcude the following line:

bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVa 2990

After editing, you'll have to reboot your PC.
If this addition causes trouble (BSOD, in the worst case), change it to

bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVa 2890

and try again.

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All in all, it could help if you set the texture quality from "high" to "medium".

[Artyx80]

Maybe it's simply an out of memory issue.
I don't have experience with Win 7, so I'm not sure if there still is a boot.ini file that could be edited to inlcude the following line:

bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVa 2990

After editing, you'll have to reboot your PC.
If this addition causes trouble (BSOD, in the worst case), change it to

bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVa 2890

and try again.

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All in all, it could help if you set the texture quality from "high" to "medium".

I´m thinking also that the reason is some kind of out of memory issue. Had few crashes and noticed that memory usage was almost 100%. I lowered the resource cache from the detail settings from optimal to high and that have helped a lot.

For some reason game is much smoother, even the stuttering is almost gone and I had only one crash after 3 hours of playing (this happened when I loaded a save). That was without "Where is guru" message, it was pure Gnome..exe stopped working. Before, the game was crashing from 2 min to 1 hour. I will try your tip also, thanx for that. Such a great game and I feel bad for picking it up in such a low price.

edit: Forgot to say that I googled earlier today and found out some old fix from 2006. Back then the ge3.ini included command line "ResourceCache.u32SpeedTreeMaxMemUsage_High=100000" which was bugged and caused memory leaks. It seems that community patch has taken away that command line and newer ge3.ini doesn´t seem to have specific commands lines for optimal setting. I thought to change the resource cache from optimal to high so memory usage would maybe stop in some point. So far so good...

[Nisarg]

Be careful with boot.ini in Win7. It's heavily guarded and I still haven't figured out how to edit that by hand.

And I'm not sure if the bcdedit part exists in msconfig.exe or not.

[Artyx80]

Just a small update.. Well the changes I made didn´t work that much. Few evenings I played without crash, but then it started again. In 5 minutes 2 Wheres guru crashes, when I was exploring new places so I decided to try your tip. I used 2890 value for starters and now the game gets little hangups, but doesn´t crash. Before, those hangups were there times when game crashed. Game feels stable now so thank you for your tip. I hope this time this small problem is solved! *fingers crossed*

[Bastardo]

Could it be my HD 4650?[/I]

No.

Well, I don't actually know about yours, but I've played Gothic 3 on a HD 4650 in the past pretty flawlessly.
And small hang ups are normal in Gothic 3, even completely patched up. After all it's a streaming world on an engine which is not so great and your RAM or HDD might not always be able to keep up.