[Nigel52]

I still can't believe you guys are killing Bartok. Anyway, what I did to get an orc weapon was lure that one from the cave just right of the east gate to the militia, who killed the orc. I suppose that's fairly dangerous though...

[Zeri0n]

I still can't believe you guys are killing Bartok. Anyway, what I did to get an orc weapon was lure that one from the cave just right of the east gate to the militia, who killed the orc. I suppose that's fairly dangerous though...

just remember to last hit him, they won't get mad if u steal their kill (but you get the exp)
Oh well, that guy got good gear... really good gear for mid game so why not?

[Nigel52]

just remember to last hit him, they won't get mad if u steal their kill (but you get the exp)
Oh well, that guy got good gear... really good gear for mid game so why not?

I was too scared to get close to the orc, because with a good hit, he'd kill me in one blow (two if they weren't critical). And I just feel badly killing Bartok after he's helping you hunt.

[Zeri0n]

I was too scared to get close to the orc, because with a good hit, he'd kill me in one blow (two if they weren't critical). And I just feel badly killing Bartok after he's helping you hunt.

Haven't you seen something in gothic? Whenever you see honest and good person there, he was screwed (except for guys you helped them, but i screw them too)

[Sorinash]

A hint if you don't trust Bartok to succed in killing the shadowbeast: when he spotted the shadowbeast get far away from them so that the shadowbeast won't see you in case he dies.
Now that I started gothic 2 hardcore game I will surely use this method.

But what am I saying? Perhaps most of you already knew this method

[TudoracheMG]

There's a higher chance Bartok will get killed by the wolves than the shadowbeast

[kojocel]

There's a higher chance Bartok will get killed by the wolves than the shadowbeast

Indeed.

[Zeri0n]

There's a higher chance Bartok will get killed by the wolves than the shadowbeast

Actually you are right, if you don't help him by killing at least 1 wolf and distracting another 1 (so he fights 4 of them (well 2-3 because he would kill some with bow) he will surely die, hell yeah on my attempt he was killed by those bloodflies -_- (but it was my fault, i lured them kinda)

[Nigel52]

Yeah, Bartok got screwed on the wolves with me the first time too.

[Sorinash]

Game: Gothic 2 NotR- HoP mod (Heights of Power)
Name: The hero khorinis deserves
Stats and other things:
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Pretty late presenting my character for the first time isn't it?
And don't ask me about near-death experiences... there sure were some but I can't remember them well

[Hellbilly]

EDIT: oh I nearly forgot... why isn't my Gothic I character in the Hall of Fame?

Did you remember to do this?:

And again I would kindly ask those that complete the hardcore challenge to PM me with their final stats.

[Zero Cool]

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My character's status.
Gameothic 2 NotR
Now: Finished Jharkendar (or what is name)
Near death experiences: let's see, in the VoM when I tried to go with Diego at passage, I needed to lure some monsters; The seeker after you go out of valley of mines (1 hit away from dead, but I managed to open the door);and some others, but those are what I remember

[Sorinash]

Did you remember to do this?:

Oh, how could have I forgotten this? Thx for reminding me

[Zeri0n]

zero plz put pictures in spoiler tags, my browser cries when loading them...

[Nefekto]

@Sorinash: Done

[Dino]

I see loads of people attempting Night of the goddamn Raven...
Well damn, it's probably the most insane of the gothic series to try in Hardcore. I've beaten gothic 1 a couple of times, and had my nice amount of shots in g2 vanilla but damn... NotR punches way above its weight.

I actually see no real reason to even attempt it but it's temping me, it's the ultimate gothic hardcore challenge.
Here's what I think about it anyway: You need to take it really slowly in the early game. When you made sure what your next move should be, double check, triple check and only then proceed. Especially when you get to around chapter 3-4. One mistake there can easily mean game over, and you wasted so much time into nothing.

There are probably only 2-3 builds worth making in NotR.
1. Mage - really slacking in the first chapters but breezes through the final parts of the game easily. Wave of Ice + Rain of fire = everything dies in seconds
2. Dexterity-based paladin: this might sound like a great idea for early on in the game, but I'm not so sure how well this kind of build does on the Dragon Hunt. I guess it's okay if you know what you're doing
3. Str based paladin, 1h weap + magic. It works very well against pretty much everything. You've got fast 1h combat, you've got anti-undead spells and you've got healing. What more could you ask for?

this post is getting too long anyway.

[Zero Cool]

@dino: Raven was far more easy than his bandits

Bow isn't good to fight with mages, claw of beliar is best for dex build

[Sorinash]

@ Nefekto: Ok thank you

And I wanna change my gothic 2 name, I don't want it to be the same with gothic 1's... Besides I came up with a kewl idea for a name: "The hero khorinis deserves"

[Der_Jonn]

There are probably only 2-3 builds worth making in NotR.
1. Mage - really slacking in the first chapters but breezes through the final parts of the game easily. Wave of Ice + Rain of fire = everything dies in seconds
2. Dexterity-based paladin: this might sound like a great idea for early on in the game, but I'm not so sure how well this kind of build does on the Dragon Hunt. I guess it's okay if you know what you're doing

Dex characters actually do better than any other kind of character in the dragon hunt. Afaik, they're the only kind of characters who can feasibly kill the dragons in chapter 4 without using scrolls.
However, Irdorath can be somewhat problematic because it's hard to actually make good use of your range advantage.
Still, it's probably the easiest way of playing NotR.

3. Str based paladin, 1h weap + magic. It works very well against pretty much everything. You've got fast 1h combat, you've got anti-undead spells and you've got healing. What more could you ask for?

Not really all that great because melee combat is generally quite risky and it also lacks late game power because you don't get very good guild weapons as a Paladin.

[Nigel52]

Alright, I've started a new hardcore profile. I'll post stuff once I get into the town, to make sure I'm not going to die instantly. I have one question before that happens though. What is a good site to host my pictures at?