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    No, spend your money for better games or save it, but ArcaniA is not worth it.

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    Much funner than Risen? Well, I guess there's no accounting for taste. The voice acing is almost painful at times, sometimes humorous at others without intentionally trying to be because it's so bad. Gameplay is like others have said, click, click, click, click, win. But some people do like it, so.....enjoy.
    That's why I put it on the highest difficulty, dur. :P
    This game is much more playable than Risen, the voice acting is quite weak but that's not a damnable factor on its own, most PB games have very weak acting as well. Combat is much funner, feels more versatile and less clunky than Risen's combat.

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    I would not pay full price for it. It was good for a few days of gameplay but that's about it. And yes, I enjoyed it better than Risen (and of course, FG).

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    The biggest problem with Risen is that its combat is challenging - and not due to bugs or bad design (mostly). But some people have no respect for challenges, so I guess they'll probably like Arcania more than Risen. One more reason why Risen is so difficult is that PB caters to people who prefer immersion over stupid help features like gigantic exclamation marks.

    Unfortunately, the absence of exclamation marks presents a challenge to the player, and only masochistic ones like myself love such challenges. Ah well, so sad......
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    Sorry, but people who say that Arcania is better then Risen can't be serious.

    Risen is no revelation, no, but ArcaniA is casual-trash at its best.

    Nothing stands out, really nothing.
    (And please, don't say Graphics now)

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    That's why I put it on the highest difficulty, dur. :P
    This game is much more playable than Risen, the voice acting is quite weak but that's not a damnable factor on its own, most PB games have very weak acting as well. Combat is much funner, feels more versatile and less clunky than Risen's combat.
    I happened to like the VA in Gothic 1+2:P

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    At least first try the demo, since you can see many things: a natural environment, a village, different creatures, some undergrounds (in the game all the undergrounds are quite the same), fighting and magic.

    However, my answer: no.

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    The biggest problem with Risen is that its combat is challenging - and not due to bugs or bad design (mostly). But some people have no respect for challenges, so I guess they'll probably like Arcania more than Risen. One more reason why Risen is so difficult is that PB caters to people who prefer immersion over stupid help features like gigantic exclamation marks.

    Unfortunately, the absence of exclamation marks presents a challenge to the player, and only masochistic ones like myself love such challenges. Ah well, so sad......
    Both games got about 3-4 days of gameplay from us and that's it. There's no denying that Risen was more challenging and a much better game. But as a non-RPG gamer (apart from the Gothic series) and a mage fighter exclusively, I thought Risen's world was too weird and too many caves/tombs (which was Gothic 4's problem too). I have no interested in replaying either one but will easily play Gothic 1-3 again.

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    Well, it's your money so you should take that decision yourself, but only after playing the demo. My opinion is that Arcania isn't worth it's price. Risen is better in everything, so if you haven't played it yet go for it.

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    I do not use Steam,but does Arcania have a bargain price now,or is it still 60 dollars?
    You missed it. Arcania and the whole Gothic series, including the palatable titles, went on sale multiple times lately, there were even two bumpy threads here.
    At one point you could buy the whole series Gothic through Arcania for twenty-something €uro. Now you can forget about it, unless you want to pay fifty €uro just for Arcania, which is the kind of payment which should be reserved for, I don't know, The Witcher 2 or something. Not Arcania by any rate.
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    The biggest problem with Risen is that its combat is challenging - and not due to bugs or bad design (mostly).
    If by "challenging" you mean "trial and error" than yes. Spending all that time in Risen forging my own two-handed sword, going through all sorts of mundane quests and level ups to achieve this, only to be pulverized STILL, by small groups of spikerats didn't seem very rewarding. "OH! Let me quest some more and drop more skills into swordmanship so I can beat those spikerats!" did not hold much prospect, it was quite immersion breaking actually.

    But some people have no respect for challenges, so I guess they'll probably like Arcania more than Risen.
    I'm about halfway through the game on the hardest difficulty, it goes from 'challenging' to 'very challenging' quite soon.

    One more reason why Risen is so difficult is that PB caters to people who prefer immersion over stupid help features like gigantic exclamation marks.
    Risen does have a bit more of an immersion factor than Arcania, until you get to chapter 3 or so and then you kill lizards until end-boss, that is. Arcania may not have a purely original storyline, but progressing through the game is not a hinderance by any means. It's flowed decently and sometimes humourously so far.
    Also, I recall no exclamation marks while playing Arcania, maybe because I was too busy playing the game.

    Unfortunately, the absence of exclamation marks presents a challenge to the player
    Not all players
    Geändert von Stalagmite (10.04.2011 um 10:20 Uhr)

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    If by "challenging" you mean "trial and error" than yes. Spending all that time in Risen forging my own two-handed sword, going through all sorts of mundane quests and level ups to achieve this, only to be pulverized STILL, by small groups of spikerats didn't seem very rewarding. "OH! Let me quest some more and drop more skills into swordmanship so I can beat those spikerats!" did not hold much prospect, it was quite immersion breaking actually.
    Indeed? From experience, I think that you probably tried a clickfest on them, without paying attention. Like G1 and G2, timing the click is important in Risen, although mistimed clicks only result in slower attacks in Risen instead of interrupting the combo. A few levels are more than sufficient to be able to easily handled stingrats. Also, if you did take damage from the stingrats, bear in mind that your armour must not even have been decent. By the time you get to wear a warrior's armour (Bandits), a Guard armour (Inquisition) or mages' robes (Magicians), you should be strong enough to deal lots of damage per hit to wolves and weaker beasts, without taking much damage.

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    Risen does have a bit more of an immersion factor than Arcania, until you get to chapter 3 or so and then you kill lizards until end-boss, that is. Arcania may not have a purely original storyline, but progressing through the game is not a hinderance by any means. It's flowed decently and sometimes humourously so far.
    I was talking of gameplay immersion and I should say that Risen is far more immersive than Arcania at all times. But yes, the Chapter 3 and 4 are mostly boring in Risen, except the first time you play the game. Fortunately, it seems that this particular complaint will be addressed in Risen 2. And no, Risen doesn't feature a particularly original story either.

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    Also, I recall no exclamation marks while playing Arcania, maybe because I was too busy playing the game.
    So you disabled quest helpers then?
    Or are they actually turned off by default?
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    Seems like a lot of comments regarding the comparative quality of G1, G2, G3, G4 and Risen are based on swordfighting. But what if one hates swordfighting and avoids it unless there's no other choice? In other words, does playing the games as a mage changes things? To me, the different kind of swords and their movements does nothing for me but trying to find (and use) a rare scroll does.

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    Risen does have a bit more of an immersion factor than Arcania, until you get to chapter 3 or so and then you kill lizards until end-boss, that is. Arcania may not have a purely original storyline, but progressing through the game is not a hinderance by any means. It's flowed decently and sometimes humourously so far.
    Also, I recall no exclamation marks while playing Arcania, maybe because I was too busy playing the game.

    Of course arcania is greater ! after all the game was developed for USA market :-)

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    Of course arcania is greater ! after all the game was developed for USA market :-)
    Whatever.........

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    Of course arcania is greater ! after all the game was developed for USA market :-)
    Ahem, the kind of players that Arcania caters to is called the Console Gamer crowd all over the world. And it apparently fails to please them anyway. But most PC gamers (worth calling PC gamers) in the US don't like Arcania either.

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    Seems like a lot of comments regarding the comparative quality of G1, G2, G3, G4 and Risen are based on swordfighting. But what if one hates swordfighting and avoids it unless there's no other choice? In other words, does playing the games as a mage changes things? To me, the different kind of swords and their movements does nothing for me but trying to find (and use) a rare scroll does.
    Let's see.....
    G1/G2 utilise scrolls and runes for each spell.
    G3 utilises permanent memorised spells instead of runes - eliminating the part about selling any extra rune you might find.
    G3 also has some bad balancing issues when it comes to magic.

    G1/G2 clearly have a much better magic system than Arcania.
    And I think that G3 also has a better magic system than Arcania, despite the balancing issues.
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    NatDis, I agree with you but playing each of the four Gothics as a mage was quite similar in tactics, apart from how one obtains spells/runes/scrolls and the balance issues. I was making a contrast to the subtleties you mentioned about swordfight clicking to the sameness of fighting with a fireball et al. If I recall, I found fighting as a mage more tedious in Risen than Arcania despite the latter's stupid upgrade system. NotR was the best (more challenging), followed by G3 (best selections).

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    NatDis, I agree with you but playing each of the four Gothics as a mage was quite similar in tactics, apart from how one obtains spells/runes/scrolls and the balance issues. I was making a contrast to the subtleties you mentioned about swordfight clicking to the sameness of fighting with a fireball et al. If I recall, I found fighting as a mage more tedious in Risen than Arcania despite the latter's stupid upgrade system. NotR was the best (more challenging), followed by G3 (best selections).
    well risen kinda forced you to fight with the staff due to the lack of spells (and i didn't rely on those shard stuff so i can't say how strong it is)

    but it is still far above arcania

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    Of course arcania is greater ! after all the game was developed for USA market :-)
    I lol'd.

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    well don't spend money useless i spent em and lawl was a total fayul ... forsaken gods allmost same game bugs as g3 and arcania well nice story but dam it's too short finished it in about 10h

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