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    Dragonslayer Avatar von Nefekto
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    Hardcore Gothic Challenge thread #5

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    Hello and welcome, wary traveler. This is the Hardcore Gothic Challenge and our mantra is: Do not die and do not reload. To prevent disqualification, please take a moment to read the rules and leave all ideas of spamming behind. Thank you.



    RULES

    #1: This is a no reloads game which means that whatever choices you make, you made 'em and that's it. You save when you stop playing and load when you start playing again. When you die it's game over.

    #2: Please leave thread-destructive comments like "Playing this way is stupid" or "You're missing the whole point of Gothic" aside. This method of playing is for experienced and very patient players as it requires a lot of forward planning. So if you don't like it, don't do it.

    #3 When you want to participate, make a clear statement on it and an introductory post where you'll put your character build (more on this later) and if you plan on roleplaying, some personality info.

    #4 Clearly mark your official character diary posts with a headline like "Huntsman's Hardcore Dragon Hunter" so that they are easy to find amongst other user comments.

    #5 DO NOT CHEAT, THIS IS FOR FUN ONLY. No one will win big bucks or ultimate respect for beating the game with a mage in a day or killing a dragon snapper at lvl 1.

    #6: Mods that don't change the storyline are allowed, and listed in the "Modded Games" section.

    #7 BY TAKING PARTICIPATION IN THIS CHALLENGE YOU ARE OBLIGED TO CLEARLY MARK THE POST WHERE YOU STATE YOUR CHARACTER'S DEATH OR VICTORY OVER THE CHALLENGE IN LARGE, COLORED FONT

    TIPS

    #1 Be very careful and plan your every move.

    #2 If you're not sure you can handle it...RUN!

    #3 Don't hesitate to ask for advice in this thread like "Do you guys think I could do the black troll at lvl 25 with Large Fire Storm?"

    #4 Do not attack enemies in groups. Lure every enemy, no matter how weak it/he is.

    #5 In hardcore brave = stupid and dead in most cases.

    #6 Idle hands are devil's playground. If you suddenly feel like risking it for quick booty - call it a day.

    #7 Don't go near cliffs and when you do - walk instead of run. There is a great chance you could fall and end your adventure in a stupid way. After all, it's realistic to slip up in an unknown, steep mountain path.

    #8 Do not have mercy for your enemies. Never let it attack, always keep it at a distance and use all power that you have available.

    BENEFITS OF HARDCORE

    #1 Everything seems different. The dialogues, the world, the enemies, it's a whole new Gothic experience. Recommended for players who've already beaten Gothic with every character and know their way around.

    #2 When an NPC tells you "Wow, you're brave!" there's a great chance you'll really feel this way, even if it's not much, because you're putting your life on the line here and not just reloading 10 times until you make 2 critical hits in a row in order to kill the enemy.

    #3 You just wanna read through all the dialogues...again. Trust me.

    #4 Makes you feel real and alive.

    #5 You won't feel guilty for knowing the game and it's secrets, weapons and being good at it. This is where it all counts.



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    ~The Place of Eternal Glory~

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    Gothic
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    1. Dead
    by Dino
    Level: 40
    Guild: Necromancer


    2. Random Hero #612
    by Mage Master
    Level: 38
    Guild: Mercenary


    3. Blubbler's Character
    by Blubbler
    Level: 38
    Guild: Templar


    4. R3P3R
    by Hampu
    Level: 36
    Guild: Water Mage


    5. Giovanni #4
    by Air Mage
    Level: 36
    Guild: Sect


    6. No name
    by Cornhulio_1992
    Level: 36
    Guild: Mercenary


    7. Altair
    by Altair-AoD
    Level: 34
    Guild: Mercenary


    8. Rokhan II
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 34
    Guild: Necromancer


    9. Nameless Magician #8253
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 33
    Guild: Necromancer


    10. DSteel
    by DSteel
    Level: 32
    Guild: Mercenary


    11. Quickie
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 26
    Guild: Magician Of Water


    12. Nameless Hero Who's in a Rush
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 23
    Guild: Water Mage

    Gothic w. mods
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    1. Gothic hardocre guy #3 (Dark mysteries modification)
    by Zerion92
    Level: 45
    Guild: Primeval

    2. Mpb's Adventurer (NoName Mod)
    by mpb03
    Level: 33
    Guild: Templar

    Gothic 2
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    1. Golem Hater
    by Dino
    Level: 42
    Guild: Paladin


    2. Blubblers' Paladin #4
    by Blubbler
    Level: 38
    Guild: Paladin


    3. R3P3R
    by Hampu
    Level: 37
    Guild: Paladin


    4. Jonn's Nameless Paladin
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 37
    Guild: Paladin


    5. Adi's Dragon Hunter #3
    by Bamfy
    Level: 35
    Guild: Dragon Hunter

    Gothic 2 Night Of The Raven

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    1. Sikkibahm's Paladin
    by Sikkibahm
    Level: 55
    Guild: Paladin


    2. BS' Fire Mage
    by Black Sphere
    Level: 54
    Guild: Fire Mage


    3. Sikkibahm's Mercenary
    by Sikkibahm (first to complete challenge!)
    Level: 49
    Guild: Dragon Hunter


    4. Jonn's Dex Pala #3
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 48
    Guild: Paladin


    5. Jonn's Magician
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 39
    Guild: Fire mage


    Gothic 2 Night Of The Raven w. mods

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    1. Zerion The Sharpshooter
    by Zeri0n
    Level: 70
    Mod: Heights of Power


    Gothic 3
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    1. Njunin II
    by Njunin
    Level: 66
    Mods used: CP v1.74, QP 4, Magic Mod
    Alternative Balancing : On


    Spoiler:(zum lesen bitte Text markieren)
    1. Sikkibahm's Mage
    by Sikkibahm
    Level: 40
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: THE SLEEPER!!!


    2. Student
    by Student
    Level: 35
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: The Sleeper


    3. Harcore Attempt Guy #5
    by Dino
    Level: 35
    Guild: Templar
    Cause of death: Fire Lizard


    4. Acheron
    by Bamfy
    Level: 30
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: Trap in the temple


    5. Nameless Magician
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 29
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Undead Orc Shaman guarding Uriziel


    6. Hellbilly's Jes Another Convict
    by Hellbilly
    Level: 27
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Spikes in front of the Uriziel chamber in the underground orcish temple


    7. Huntsman's Hardcore Magician
    by Huntsman
    Level: 27
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Varrag-Kasorg, the undead shaman in the orcish underground temple


    8. Hater of the Rotten Earth
    by Dino
    Level: 26
    Guild: Water Mage
    Cause of death: Fanatic Templar


    9. Hans Georg
    by Petyamester
    Level: 26
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Fire lizard


    10. Sikkibahm's Mercenary
    by Sikkibahm
    Level: 26
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: Fell of a platform in the castle with the focus stone while transformed to Lurker


    11. Blubbler's Character
    by Blubbler
    Level: 25
    Guild: Templar
    Cause of death: Troll


    12. Razor
    by Buckingham
    Level: 24
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Orcs in orc town


    13. Naked Nameless Hero
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 24
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Guard in the free mine


    14. Stewbob
    by Bobstew
    Level: 24
    Guild: Templar
    Cause of death: Jackal and the guys outside the Free Mine.


    15. Blubbler's Character
    by Blubbler
    Level: 23
    Guild: Templar
    Cause of death: Pack of razors near Xardas' tower


    16. Nameless Hero Who Wants to Finish the Game in Unde
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 22
    Guild: Water Mage
    Cause of death: Varrag Kasorg



    18. Nameless Hero without equipment #2
    by Der_Jonn
    Challenge: not wearing any armour, rings, amulets and weapons
    Level: 21
    Chapter: 4 (just entered the free mine for the first time)
    Guild: Fire Mage
    Cause of death: Guard in the Free Mine


    17. Another Nameless Hero on Speed
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 21
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Fell into lava


    18. Jonn
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 20
    Guild: Magician Of Water
    Cause of death: Fell from the dam in the New Camp


    19. DTR's Mercenary
    by DTR
    Level: 19
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: Stone golem near Xardas' tower


    20. No armor 2
    by Blubbler
    Level: 18
    Guild: Fire Mage
    Cause of death: Blood Hound


    21. No Armor
    by Blubbler
    Level: 17
    Guild: Fire Mage
    Cause of death: Blood Hound


    22. Bamfy
    by Bamfy
    Level: 17
    Guild: [unknown]
    Cause of death: Skeletons


    23. DSteel
    by DSteel
    Level: 17
    Guild: Guard
    Cause of death: lack of mountain climbing skills


    24. Test Dummy
    by Mage Master
    Level: 16
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: Killed by an orc warrior


    25. Dino's Nameless Hero
    by Dino
    Level: 15
    Guild: Templar
    Cause of death: Y'Berion, a guru and a few templar guards


    26. Dino's Magician
    by Dino
    Level: 15
    Guild: Magician Of Fire
    Cause of death: Surrounded by 5 guards with crossbows in the free mine


    27. Alexi
    by Hampu
    Level: 15
    Guild: Guard
    Cause of death: orcs and Baal at orc cemetary

    Gothic w. mods

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    1. Strange Guy (Golden Mod)
    by W1nd mast3R
    Level: 20
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: Killed by bow-ed mercenary while killing Torlof


    Gothic 2
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    1. Bastardo's Mercenary Warrior
    by Bastardo
    Level: 34
    Guild: Dragon Hunter
    Cause of death: The Undead Dragon


    2. No name
    by Dino
    Level: 29
    Guild: -
    Cause of death: Fire golem


    3. Adi's Dragon Hunter #2
    by Bamfy
    Level: 26
    Guild: Dragon Hunter
    Cause of death: 5 Elite orcs


    Gothic 2 Night Of The Raven
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    1. Sikkibahm's Mage
    by Sikkibahm
    Level: 40
    Guild: Magician
    Cause of death: Pack of dragon snappers


    2. Petyamester's Dragon Hunter
    by Petyamester
    Level: 39
    Guild: Dragon Hunter
    Cause of death: 3 Fire Lizrds


    3. 1h Merc
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 28
    Guild: Dragon Hunter
    Cause of death: Two Lizard Men


    4. Giovanni #4
    by Air Mage
    Level: 27
    Guild: Fire mage
    Cause of death: Seekers in Lobart's farm


    5. Omidoow
    by Omidoow
    Level: 26
    Guild: Magician
    Cause of death: Failed in a jump and fell off a cliff whilst sight-seeing


    6. Brutish Warrior Dude
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 24
    Guild: Dragon Hunter
    Cause of death: thrown over a cliff by a Swamp Golem


    7. Seerix
    by Bamfy
    Level: 22
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: Fire lizards


    8. No name
    by Blubbler
    Level: 20
    Guild: Mercenary
    Cause of death: Killed by Diego for wearing bandit's armour.


    9. Scrollless Hero
    by Der_Jonn
    Level: 19
    Guild: Fire Mage
    Cause of death: Fell from a cliff


    Gothic 3
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    1. Bastardo's Traveller
    by Bastardo
    Level: 45
    Guild: Rebels
    Cause of death: Killed by a Dark Mage during the liberation of Bakaresh


    2. No name
    by Gorn the destroyer
    Level: 21
    Guild: None
    Cause of death: Overrun by the orcs in the temple complex of Vengard


    3. Snoopy's Nameless Hero
    by Snoopy666s93
    Level: 21
    Guild:
    Cause of death: Fire lizard


    4. DTR's character
    by DTR
    Level: 19
    Guild: ?
    Cause of death: 3 sandcrawlers


    5. Taba's Character
    by Taba1992
    Level: 15
    Guild:
    Cause of death: Goblin
    Geändert von Nefekto (02.11.2010 um 22:43 Uhr)

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    Dragonslayer Avatar von Nefekto
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    Gonna start adding names in post #1 + to be given the honor to have your name written in the graveyard you gotta be at least lvl 15

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    Zitat Zitat von sokras2008 Beitrag anzeigen
    Thank you for the information
    But the dragons are regenerating health so if i use rain of fire i will have either to buy more than 2 scrolls or use potions which gives a lot of time to the dragon to regain health.Also ( i think) a summoned golem can easily die by the dragon
    No one said anything about golems, but a single demon can kill a dragon on it's own.
    Another possibility would be a Dragonsnapper transformation scroll. I'm not sure if it's strong enough for the Ice Dragon, but it can definitely kill any of the other dragons in the Valley of Mines.

    Anyway i will try when i reach that chapter.
    By the way when should i go to jhakendar? before or afte Chapter 2??
    As a militia man, you should first go to the VoM to get the heavy milita armour.

    Are you playing a melee character? Because if that's the case, you want to enter the third chapter as late as possible because the Seekers are extremely dangerous for melee characters. If you're ranged character you can deal with the Seekers reasonably well, so I would do some leveling on the easier monsters and quests in the VoM and Jharkendar and then go into the third chapter so you can become a paladin.




    In other news, I've started another try at the no equipment challenge.
    If you haven't read my earlier posts, the challenge is to play Gothic 1 without using any weapons, armours, rings and amulets (the only exception is of course that I can use a bow to activate the target marks in the Orc Temple).

    Game: Gothic 1
    Name: Nameless Hero without equipment #2
    Challenge: not wearing any armour, rings, amulets and weapons
    Level: 6
    Chapter: 2 (at the start of the chapter, but I already killed the Fire and Ice Golems)
    Guild: Shadow
    Game time: 1:50 h
    Near death experiences: none

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    Name: Sokras
    Guild: Guildless
    Level: 3
    Journal page #1
    I started a new game, I took all the stuff from Xardas tower and when I went upstairs I saw beliar's statue and I thought about praying to get some gold.Fortunately I didn't because I remembered from the last time that I lost hp for nothing.Anyway, I went out and met Cavalorn did his quest,took the letter and went to Lobart's farm.There I did all the quests and bought the farmer's suit for 30 gold pieces.After that I killed some young wolves and small bloodflies that were around the farm and the 4 young file raiders.It was generally pretty easy, then I met greg, I gave him my clothes to get in the town, i used the pass to get inside.I took the quests from all the masters to complete them.I visited the whole town except for the tavern where Moe is in front.I didn't try to go there yet because I thought that he is still too strong for me to defeat.I took the quest for the missing people from Vatras, I gave Lares the ornament that I took from Vatras, I gave Cavalorn's letter, I trained my DEX to 20, learned how to sneak and found a sword(you know the one which needs 20 DEX).After that I went to see Ignaz the potion brewer.He gave me the oblivion spell and I also bought from him a sleep spell.I used the sleep spell to put the guard in front of Matteo's warehouse to sleep, I took everything from the 2 chests including the clothes with the leather armor.I sold everything I didn't need to Matteo to get some gold. I went out of the city to gather the herbs for Constantino and in the meanwhile I killed 5 wolves for Bosper (i need 1 more).I gave the herbs to Constantino,I took from Lares the quest "the easy way to the militia" which I completed.Finally I talked to Farim the fisherman and completed his quest and talked to a lot of citizens for "the missing people" quest.
    Geändert von sokras2008 (25.06.2010 um 02:39 Uhr)

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    1. G2NotRHoP HC guy (Heights of Power)
    by Dino
    Level: 74
    Guild: Paladin
    Cause of death:
    Hey hey hey! That's wrong!!! I beat the game with HoP mod, I did not die!
    I demand a refund. Otherwise I pout!

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    Zitat Zitat von Blubbler Beitrag anzeigen
    That was me
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHuF3YRNIiw#t=3m15s
    This was with countless reloads and saving in between though. There is no way you can do this in a hardcore game.
    You are TheWonderer?! Holy shit dude!!!
    But still, how did you pull that off? On the video it seems as though you never even touched him, and yet he falls dead. Did the ice golem damage him? I undertand the save and load thing, but what did the damage on the fire golem?
    Geändert von Dino (25.06.2010 um 07:45 Uhr)

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    Game: Gothic 1
    Name: Nameless Hero without equipment #2
    Challenge: not wearing any armour, rings, amulets and weapons
    Level: 12
    Chapter: 3 (at the start)
    Guild: Fire Mage
    Game time: 3:54 h
    Near death experiences: none

    Things are going very smoothly for me. Next up is the orc graveyard, which is quite dangerous since in many cases it's impossible to take out the orcs from afar.



    Zitat Zitat von Dino Beitrag anzeigen
    You are TheWonderer?! Holy shit dude!!!
    No, Blubbler isn't TheWonderer. TheWonderer's name on these forums is (surprisingly) "TheWonderer"

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    Name: Sokras
    Guild: Guildless
    Level: 6
    Journal page #2
    Near death experience: Bandit, Dexter in his tower and a field raider
    Today I talked to Lares again and took the quest for the easy way to the mercenaries to earn more exp.I went to see skip and completed his trade with Baltram, I did Nagur's quest in order to join the thieves' guild, i also failed the quest "A Brazen thief" to join the thieves' guild.After that I went out of the city to gather one more skin for Bosper, I went to the "Dead Harpie" Tavern where I did the "drinking contest" quest with Rokhar but I failed because i forgot to get the gin from his chest before i give him the money for the bet. After that I went towards the Monastery where I found the magician Isgaroth I took his blessing and killed the beasts in the road.After that i talked to Erol about the stone tablets quest.For this quest I am quite proud of.I went to Akil's farm where were the mercenaries and i crossed the bridge where were a lot of bandits.I provoked the bandits to attack me and i drove them to Akil's farm where they had a crazy Free-for-all fight :P.Anyway all the bandits and mercenaries died and one of the farmers too but who cares :P. I took the stone tablets from the bandits, I did the quests in Akil's farm and I talked to Erol again, he increased by strength by 1. After that i returned to the city, I told Bartok to go hunting with me and so we did.Unfortunately he died but it didn't matter.I went to Boper and gave him the skins, talked to Thorbern for the blessing and gave to Harad the orc sword that i found in a cave.I became an apprentice of Harad to get easy money.I went to Onar's farm on the way i killed all the beast except for the boars and the lurkers.Also I lost the quest from Greg for finding his gold.I wasn't in a mood of doing it:P. I defeated Buster in a duel and Fester too.I payed Senteza 50 gold and beat Rod with his own weapon:P. I took the test for the mercenaries I talked to Cord and took the quest for his friend patrick while he dealt with the test which was with the militia.I went to the bandit's camp, i talked to Dexter, we talked then Greg showed up and Dexter and I fought.I killed him, went back to Cord and Torlof told me that I am ready to join the mercenaries.Of course I wanted to join the militia so I went back to the city of Khorinis.

    Questions:
    When should I face the bandits where Elvrich is?
    Also when should I go and find the bandits that have Halvor's message?
    What spells should I use?I am thinking of buying the fire rain scroll and the summon golem and demon scroll to kill the bandits in Jack's lighthouse, the bandits where Elvrich is and wargs behind Bengar's farm, but if I use them I will not have powerful scrolls for later.So what should i do?

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    If Notr then spare demon scrolls for dragons.
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    Q:How to fight in Arcania?
    Zitat Zitat von Petyamester Beitrag anzeigen
    My strategy was click click click click click click click click click click click click click click win.


    Probably the coolest place in Gothic 3

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    Zitat Zitat von Dino Beitrag anzeigen
    You are TheWonderer?! Holy shit dude!!!
    But still, how did you pull that off? On the video it seems as though you never even touched him, and yet he falls dead. Did the ice golem damage him? I undertand the save and load thing, but what did the damage on the fire golem?
    No, I'm not TheWonderer, I just improved on his speedrun (on which he improved again).
    The Ice Golem attacks you with Ice Arrows after it has frozen you. So you have to lure the Fire Golem towards you in a way that the Ice Golem freezes you, the Fire Golem is in front of you and absorbs the Ice Arrows targeted towards you.

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    Game: Gothic 1
    Name: Nameless Hero without equipment #2
    Challenge: not wearing any armour, rings, amulets and weapons
    Level: 20
    Chapter: 4 (have to go see Xardas now)
    Guild: Fire Mage
    Game time: 6:50 h
    Near death experiences: a Harpy at the old monastery was only one hit away from killing me




    Zitat Zitat von sokras2008 Beitrag anzeigen
    Questions:
    When should I face the bandits where Elvrich is?
    Also when should I go and find the bandits that have Halvor's message?
    I'd wait until you have the heavy milita armour (which can be bought from Engor in the castle in the VoM), then you should be able to kill them without having to waste any scrolls.

    What spells should I use?I am thinking of buying the fire rain scroll and the summon golem and demon scroll to kill the bandits in Jack's lighthouse, the bandits where Elvrich is and wargs behind Bengar's farm, but if I use them I will not have powerful scrolls for later.So what should i do?
    Don't spend strong scrolls such as Summon Demon or Rain of Fire on opponents that you don't actually have to kill. Save them for strong opponents that you have to kill for the main quest.
    The bandits at Jack's lighthouse are very strong and you shouldn't attack them until you're a paladin and at the very least level 20.

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    Game: Gothic 2 NotR
    Name: Sokras
    Guild: Militia
    Level: 8
    Chapter: 2 (beginning)
    Play time: 8h 12min
    Near death experiences: Field Raider,Bandits where Lucia left her letter, guard at warehouse.

    Journal Page #3
    Today I joined the militia, found Peck and he gave me a weapon.After that I took from Lord Andre the quest "weed package" which I still cannot complete because the guard is damn difficult ( I even transformed into a snapper to kill him but with one swing of his sword i was left with only one fifth of my health).I talked to lord hagen and entered chapter 2.After that i talked to Vatras about the missing people and told him about Raven and he told that I am ready to join the "Ring of water".I joined it I took Vatras' letter to Isgaroth and as a reward from Vatras I chose the Ice arrow( I think that I will use it later).I made some weapons which I sold to Harad and reached 2000+ gold pieces. I went over to Onar's farm where I explored the woods and killed most of the monsters except for the wargs and the goblin skeletons which I drove to the bandits that had Lucia's letter to kill each other.Eventually everyone died and I killed the las goblin skeleton remaining with a "destroy undead" spell scroll.I took the letter to Elvrich, I went to Ignaz and bought all of his transformation scrolls and so I was left with only 400 Gold :P.The only thing that I have forgotten doing is paying a visit to Lester who is still at the forest near Xardas' tower.After that I don't know how to proceed because I can't do the quest with the weed package and I am thinking of going to VoM or trying to open the portal for Jhakendar.What should I do firstly?VoM, Jhakendar or something else??

    Zitat Zitat von Der_Jonn Beitrag anzeigen
    The bandits at Jack's lighthouse are very strong and you shouldn't attack them until you're a paladin and at the very least level 20.
    WHAT???!! 20 level???? LOL i will never be able to get that high:P

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    Dragonslayer Avatar von Omid-
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    Lvl 20? I beat their asses lvl 7 and i bet i could easily do it at lvl 1.

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    Schwertmeister Avatar von Der_Jonn
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    I died again
    This time, I was killed by a guard at the Free Mine. That place is really scary when you have zero protection and no melee weapons. Not sure yet if I'll try again. Maybe I'll play a bit of NotR or Risen next.

    Game: Gothic 1
    Name: Nameless Hero without equipment #2
    Challenge: not wearing any armour, rings, amulets and weapons
    Level: 21
    Chapter: 4 (just entered the free mine for the first time)
    Guild: Fire Mage
    Cause of death: Guard in the Free Mine


    Zitat Zitat von Omid- Beitrag anzeigen
    Lvl 20? I beat their asses lvl 7 and i bet i could easily do it at lvl 1.
    I don't see how it's possible to safely kill the bandits at the lighthouse at level 1 without scrolls. But if you've found some trick to do that, I'd be eager to hear it.

    Zitat Zitat von sokras2008
    What should I do firstly?VoM, Jhakendar or something else??
    See my earlier reply, I'll quote it for your convenience:
    Zitat Zitat von Der_Jonn
    As a militia man, you should first go to the VoM to get the heavy milita armour.

    Are you playing a melee character? Because if that's the case, you want to enter the third chapter as late as possible because the Seekers are extremely dangerous for melee characters. If you're ranged character you can deal with the Seekers reasonably well, so I would do some leveling on the easier monsters and quests in the VoM and Jharkendar and then go into the third chapter so you can become a paladin.

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    Zitat Zitat von Der_Jonn Beitrag anzeigen
    This time, I was killed by a guard at the Free Mine. That place is really scary when you have zero protection and no melee weapons.
    Why don't you just summon... stuff... for melee while you take them out from afar with magic?

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    Schwertmeister Avatar von Der_Jonn
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    Well, the problem is that I don't have time to summon anything because I'm immediately attacked when I enter the mine.

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    thank you for your advice.I will firstly go to VoM and report what I did there although I started HC mode without firstly looking at your guide:P so there are no easy monsters to kill once I go back:P

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    Game: Gothic 2 NotR
    Name: Sokras
    Guild: Militia
    Level: 9
    Status: DEAD
    Cause of death: Lurker in VoM with 4 bloodflies

    Journal page #4
    (The letters are written with handshaking writting and they are not easily read)
    Today I went to Lester who was in the forest near Xardas and killed all the beasts and in the cave too.Then I decided to go to VoM. I killed a few on the way there and I decided to go to the river which at the side of the road towards the Old Camp.There I killed two lurkers and then I went a bit further in the small island and 4 bloodflies and a lurker atacked.That was my death sentence.I am leaving this to anyone who will come by here and learn my stor........

    All in all I died:P
    And now I have to start over:P
    Anyway this time I will spend my LP better and try to make a Dexterity Paladin.

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    Impressive what you all write down here!

    My first post.

    I have read a lot in your diaries you all post here in the hardcore threads. It is nice and fun to read, great work!!

    I have the feeling to play my current game (Divinity II Ego Draconis) over again, but this time on hardcore!
    I never do it this way ... but I find "the idea of playing hardcore" very great!
    I always never loved it to "cheat" in games, so I wish to never reload over and over again for having better loot or something. I take all like it comes, that's for me the most funny way to play, always !!
    I have a lot of patience ... but not so many free time to play


    I never played any Gothic game, but now I play on Xbox and Gothic 4 will be on xbox too, I ponder over it to buy Gothic 4 and play it from the first start on hardcore mode ... Don't know or that will be possible for me ...

    Are here players who should play Gothic 4 on Xbox? Or only on PC?

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    Another status Update.

    Gothic 3 Hardcore Challenge
    Name: Dudeson

    Near Death experience: Demon in Gotha, Orcs in Vengard, Orcs in Montera.

    I've been all around Myrthana, liberated Montera and Gotha, and driven the orcs from Vengard (wich was no easy task). I also got the Robe of Adanos from the temple where Saturas is. I haven't been to see Xardas yet though. Level 55 at the moment, with heavy Rebel armor.

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    Zitat Zitat von kirimo Beitrag anzeigen
    I never played any Gothic game, but now I play on Xbox and Gothic 4 will be on xbox too, I ponder over it to buy Gothic 4 and play it from the first start on hardcore mode ... Don't know or that will be possible for me ...

    Are here players who should play Gothic 4 on Xbox? Or only on PC?
    Gothic 4 looks like it will be an offline WoW. I'd rather play Gothic 1 and 2.

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