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    Bugtracker: Ironkeep Community Patch

    Hello All,

    This thread is for you to report any bugs you discover in the ICP v1.0. If need be, we will compile a hotfix with bugfixes and some final changes. If you discover anything, this is the thread to post it in.

    Thanks,

    - Korianous

    ICP v1.0 Available Here!
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    Geändert von Korianous (07.06.2009 um 14:40 Uhr)

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    Hi there,

    Im happy that this game finally gets community support now (for english version). I found this patch by accident on strategyinformer.com.

    Last time I played this game was maybe year ago, but I remember some bugs that I wanted to post here. I havent tested this patch yet.


    Quest:

    - 'Wanted Notes and Bandits' quest - sometimes you cant complete it when you dont finish it quick (before joining guild or when you talk to Skip). Even if it disappears after some chapter, you miss xp (dialog) when talking to Dexter about it.

    - 'Shadowbeast Horns for Buster' quest - you should be able to get horns from Jharkendar too, even if only these from Khorinis are quest related. Once I wanted to get all horns (Jharkendar + Khorinis) before talking to Buster, but then, when I returned from Jharkendar the quest couldnt be completed anymore (big xp/gold loss). Im not sure how it is with Paladin and dragon blood (there is one vial in Jharkendar if I remember correctly).

    - 'Constantino approval' sidequest - Im not 100% sure, but you dont get 100XP when asking for his approval, just something like "you can sign up to whoever you like".

    - 'Moonshine' quest - you get xp when opening Vinos still, but you dont get any xp when you let him know about it. I think in normal Gothic 2 I get 50 or 100 xp.

    - 'Lehmar's book of debts' POI - Again, not sure, but when you give his ledger to Hanna, she just gives you key, but you dont get any xp.


    Other:

    - Weapon merchants - its most annoying bug. Merchants will equip the strongest weapon they have available to them, if you dont buy it first (i.e. Martin and Master Sword), this really should be fixed.

    - Inaccesible chest in Jharkendar Bandits camp, right beside of Esteban should be fixed if possible, or such contents should be dropped near chest (Contents of chest: Gold nugget (x5), Rum (x2), Red tear-pepper)

    - When you attack Juan (Huno Steel Quest), the bandit near him should attack you, but he doesnt.


    Minor:

    - Unlimited xp/gold xploits (Skeleton mages spawn farming, mercenary and paladin unlimited xp/gold by knocking down Buster/Jan. Also there is Francis' paybook, you can knock him down, and sell his book over and over. Same thing with dragon hunter Biff that you can hire for escort, basically he is free, just beat him up take money cast oblivion, repeat. Old coins and Wasili..). Skeleton mages summons should be limited, and quest items that you gave to npc should be removed from their inventory.

    - Sometimes monsters drop from high spots and die (i.e. rats and lizards near Xardas tower). Same with some bandits at Dexters tower (with Fire Bow), when you shoot to them with arrows, or spells, they just cant find right path to you, and fall.

    - Bosper dialog about Boarskins is soundless.


    Suggestions:

    - Thiefs guild - when you joined them, you should be able to knock them down without killing them.

    - Greg - he should slowly walk from his spot when you start fighting at Dexters camp (instead of teleporting), and let you get all the xp by yourself.


    Keep up this great projects. I will post more bugs when I start playing again.

    Regards.

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    Zitat Zitat von Mayaam Beitrag anzeigen
    Hi there,

    Im happy that this game finally gets community support now (for english version). I found this patch by accident on strategyinformer.com.
    Welcome to the forums friend §welcome. But this post is what we opened up the bugtracking thread for .

    Last time I played this game was maybe year ago, but I remember some bugs that I wanted to post here. I havent tested this patch yet.

    Quest:

    - 'Wanted Notes and Bandits' quest - sometimes you cant complete it when you dont finish it quick (before joining guild or when you talk to Skip). Even if it disappears after some chapter, you miss xp (dialog) when talking to Dexter about it.
    Certain quests automatically expire after a certain point, it's intentional, and makes the quests more story driven.

    - 'Shadowbeast Horns for Buster' quest - you should be able to get horns from Jharkendar too, even if only these from Khorinis are quest related. Once I wanted to get all horns (Jharkendar + Khorinis) before talking to Buster, but then, when I returned from Jharkendar the quest couldnt be completed anymore (big xp/gold loss). Im not sure how it is with Paladin and dragon blood (there is one vial in Jharkendar if I remember correctly).
    This is also a chapter issue.

    - 'Constantino approval' sidequest - Im not 100% sure, but you dont get 100XP when asking for his approval, just
    something like "you can sign up to whoever you like".
    An XP bonus wasn't intended, as it's so easy to get his approval.

    - 'Moonshine' quest - you get xp when opening Vinos still, but you dont get any xp when you let him know about it. I think in normal Gothic 2 I get 50 or 100 xp.

    - 'Lehmar's book of debts' POI - Again, not sure, but when you give his ledger to Hanna, she just gives you key, but you dont get any xp.
    Perhaps we can add some minor XP bonuses for these.

    Other:

    - Weapon merchants - its most annoying bug. Merchants will equip the strongest weapon they have available to them, if you dont buy it first (i.e. Martin and Master Sword), this really should be fixed.
    We can look into disabling certain options to make this happen, but I'm not sure if there's much we can do about it.

    - Inaccesible chest in Jharkendar Bandits camp, right beside of Esteban should be fixed if possible, or such contents should be dropped near chest (Contents of chest: Gold nugget (x5), Rum (x2), Red tear-pepper)
    I don't recall such a chest, I'll look into this. How is it inaccessible?

    - When you attack Juan (Huno Steel Quest), the bandit near him should attack you, but he doesnt.
    This depends on certain situations, he may or may not attack.

    Minor:

    - Unlimited xp/gold xploits (Skeleton mages spawn farming, mercenary and paladin unlimited xp/gold by knocking down Buster/Jan. Also there is Francis' paybook, you can knock him down, and sell his book over and over. Same thing with dragon hunter Biff that you can hire for escort, basically he is free, just beat him up take money cast oblivion, repeat. Old coins and Wasili..). Skeleton mages summons should be limited, and quest items that you gave to npc should be removed from their inventory.
    Exploits are exploits, it's hard to get rid of them. We can look into it, but it's very difficult to do anything about them.

    - Sometimes monsters drop from high spots and die (i.e. rats and lizards near Xardas tower). Same with some bandits at Dexters tower (with Fire Bow), when you shoot to them with arrows, or spells, they just cant find right path to you, and fall.
    We will try our best to improve pathfinding in future releases.

    - Bosper dialog about Boarskins is soundless.
    It was intentional, there appears to be no recorded dialogue for it.

    Suggestions:

    - Thiefs guild - when you joined them, you should be able to knock them down without killing them.

    - Greg - he should slowly walk from his spot when you start fighting at Dexters camp (instead of teleporting), and let you get all the xp by yourself.
    They are intentionally scripted as such, IMO there's not much of a reason to change that .

    Keep up this great projects. I will post more bugs when I start playing again.
    Your feedback is greatly appreciated, it will help to improve the quality of the patch. Thanks .

    - Korianous
    Ach Fry, Ich hab dich mehr als der Monde, die Sterne...das...fail.

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    Zitat Zitat von Korianous Beitrag anzeigen
    We can look into disabling certain options to make this happen, but I'm not sure if there's much we can do about it.
    Please do that if you can. In normal Gothic 2 such thing with merchants never happened.
    Zitat Zitat von Korianous Beitrag anzeigen
    I don't recall such a chest, I'll look into this. How is it inaccessible?
    As far as I know I couldnt find key nor open it too.

    Go and check it at http://mondgesaenge.de/G2ADB/EN/ (Guides>Chests> ID J65), there is info about it. This site is very usefull, it has even list of unused items.
    Zitat Zitat von Korianous Beitrag anzeigen
    This depends on certain situations, he may or may not attack.
    Im certain that he should attack you when you attack Juan, anyway its not such a big bug to worry about. I just remember that he never attacked me, even when I killed his companion, it was just odd.
    Zitat Zitat von Korianous Beitrag anzeigen
    They are intentionally scripted as such, IMO there's not much of a reason to change that .
    It was sugesstion Hehe, what I always did there to get all xp, was casting fire rain, to kill all bandits quick. When Greg teleports they are already dead, no wasted xp.


    Also I remembered another minor bug

    - Goblins use two copys of weapon instead of one (one copy is still present in their inventory when theyr dead). Im not sure about warrior goblins using swords, but Im sure about these with heavy branches.


    Regards.

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    Thanks for the tips mate . Please do let us know if you discover anything else, it will help improve the quality of the patch.
    Ach Fry, Ich hab dich mehr als der Monde, die Sterne...das...fail.

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    Zitat Zitat von Mayaam Beitrag anzeigen


    It was sugesstion Hehe, what I always did there to get all xp, was casting fire rain, to kill all bandits quick. When Greg teleports they are already dead, no wasted xp.

    I am doing that myself, the fire rain thing, but now Greg is killing me when i do it (maybe my mistake is talking with Dexter and killing him first), so i second the thing with Greg walking to the place instead of teleporting.He is there to help you with the bandits anyways, but if i can kill all of them myself the i see no point in his "help" .
    Off-topic
    Mayaam, i am pretty annoyed myself when i miss some xp by any reason, like animals falling (the rats in the walley with Lester) or when someone kills an monster (Cavalron - the goblins, Maleth - the wolf and so on) or an NPC (Akil - Engardo, Greg - the bandits, etc. ) .I know that this kind of things adds some realism to the game but i just can't stop myself thinking "That was my xp !"

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    Zitat Zitat von 4ltair Beitrag anzeigen
    Mayaam, i am pretty annoyed myself when i miss some xp by any reason, like animals falling (the rats in the walley with Lester) or when someone kills an monster (Cavalron - the goblins, Maleth - the wolf and so on) or an NPC (Akil - Engardo, Greg - the bandits, etc. ) .I know that this kind of things adds some realism to the game but i just can't stop myself thinking "That was my xp !"
    Don't think you're the only one .
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    Is the "Stuck Ornament Bug" of Lares the one where if you go to Oran's Farm before going to the other place, you can't go to the other place with Lares? Currently ran into that one (whoops ), and would rather not have to go back 6 hours to fix that.

    Thanks!

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    Zitat Zitat von Cheapy Beitrag anzeigen
    Is the "Stuck Ornament Bug" of Lares the one where if you go to Oran's Farm before going to the other place, you can't go to the other place with Lares? Currently ran into that one (whoops ), and would rather not have to go back 6 hours to fix that.

    Thanks!
    First off, Welcome §welcome. But this is the wrong thread for such questions, so it's being moved to the Bugtracker thread .

    As to your question, that's the one. I'm going to look into the error right now, but that's one of the first ones we fixed, it shouldn't be giving you trouble.

    EDIT:

    Hey Friend,

    Sorry I can't reproduce the error. It works perfectly for me, since this a script fix, idk why there are aberrations . I've attached screens, here you go:

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    [Bild: capture529200965130pm67.th.jpg][Bild: capture529200965130pm67.th.jpg]

    Image 1)

    I've just been escorted to Onar's Farm by Lares, he's on his way back to the city.

    Image 2)

    I had a brief nap , and then chatted with Lares. Note that the dialogue options for the mercs don't appear (since I've already talked to him about the mercs and went to the farm).

    Image 3)

    Just asked Lares' to go somewhere else with me.

    Image 4)

    The option to take Vatras' ornament is still there .

    So mate, idk why it wouldn't work for you. Is this an old savegame you are attempting to use with the patch, or did you begin a new game? You will need to start a new game for the patch to work correctly.
    Ach Fry, Ich hab dich mehr als der Monde, die Sterne...das...fail.
    Geändert von Korianous (07.06.2009 um 15:35 Uhr)

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    Ah, I went to bed, and when I woke up I was wondering where my post went! this explains it.

    Yea, that's the bug I ran in to.

    Damn, looks like I need to go back and timetravel then. Ah well, at least I now know what to do, how to do it, (and more importantly) and what not to do.

    Thanks for the help, and thanks for helping others out with the patches

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    Zitat Zitat von Cheapy Beitrag anzeigen
    Ah, I went to bed, and when I woke up I was wondering where my post went! this explains it.

    Yea, that's the bug I ran in to.

    Damn, looks like I need to go back and timetravel then. Ah well, at least I now know what to do, how to do it, (and more importantly) and what not to do.

    Thanks for the help, and thanks for helping others out with the patches
    No problem mate . If you run into further issues or have suggestions, please let us know.

    PS: In the future (since I hope you'll be around in our community more often, it's nice to have members) if you cant find one of your posts, just look in your profile, statistics, and do a quick search, in case a mod moved it. Just letting you know .
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    Ok I cind of need help with gothic 2 gold and I could not find anything that fixes it so my prob is that when I leave xadas tower the screen flashes with light blue I have experimented with it and found out that something to do with the range of view so I puted it on 20% it works good but I cant see anything and sometimes it still does the light blue flashing and I have downloaded your patch it did not work either so ye can you guys help me plz

    PS:his my system info it is big but it will give you a idea how to fix it some guys have this prob as well.



    System Information
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    Time of this report: 6/13/2009, 19:09:47
    Machine name: DEAMA-PC
    Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7127) (7127.winmain.090507-1820)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    BIOS: Default System BIOS
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
    Memory: 4096MB RAM
    Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
    Page File: 1306MB used, 6881MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
    System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
    DxDiag Version: 6.01.7127.0000 32bit Unicode
    ---------------
    Display Devices
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    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
    Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Chip type: GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
    DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0612&SUBSYS_23731682&REV_A2
    Display Memory: 2289 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 497 MB
    Shared Memory: 1791 MB
    Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
    Monitor Model: H-W22 DVI
    Monitor Id: AIC0023
    Native Mode: unknown
    Output Type: DVI
    Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
    Driver File Version: 8.15.0011.8585 (English)
    Driver Version: 8.15.11.8585
    DDI Version: 10
    Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 4/30/2009 22:02:00, 9443840 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
    Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4552-11CF-BB54-780302C2C535}
    Vendor ID: 0x10DE
    Device ID: 0x0612
    SubSys ID: 0x23731682
    Revision ID: 0x00A2

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    These are compatibility issues, not much we can really do against them. Sorry mate .
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    hmm ok...

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    Deama: Probably a virus scanner issue

    What's probably happening is that it is loading a new zone, and your virus scanner or firewall is blocking the inter-process communication that Gothic 2 uses for loading the world.

    My computer system is very similar to yours (win7 64 bit, 4gb ram, etc), and I can run it without problems. However, my virus scanner, until I told it to ignore the entire Gothic 2 directory, kept detecting (false positive) viruslike activity between the 2 game executables, since there's an exe that is solely responsible for loading zones, and the other for running the game...

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    Zitat Zitat von Mayaam Beitrag anzeigen
    - Weapon merchants - its most annoying bug. Merchants will equip the strongest weapon they have available to them, if you dont buy it first (i.e. Martin and Master Sword), this really should be fixed.
    Hi, I will quote myself because I found cheap solution for this annoying bug.

    You have to use marvin code to prevent merchants to equip strongest weapons, to do so:

    1)enter marvin mode (c, marvin, c)
    3)go to merchant you want to edit
    4)focus on him, press F2
    5)type: edit focus
    6)type: attribute
    7)press 4 or 5 and type number you want


    numbers for attributes are:

    0=actual HP
    1=max HP
    2=mana
    3=max Mana
    4=strenght
    5=dexterity
    6=HP regen
    7=Mana regen

    To disable marvin press C and type 42.

    I tried this on Hakon, edited his str and dex from 100 to 20, and now he cant equip weapons he sell

    Regards,
    M

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    Hi I found a bug well a bug to do with subtitles, now when I talk with Vatras he says "Good let us summarize"(In the subtitles) which is normal but if you decide to go to Jharkendar in Chapter 3 but you would like to use that portal that Orlan gives you the key to where you can get to the temple where all the other Water Mages are(Pyramids) but then if you go to Lares and when you talk to him theres the following option (Ornament - Stück zurückverlangen) when I press enter on this Lares gives me the ornament but he dosent say anything(As if I pick pocketed him) I was just wondering if you guys knew about that since some of you guys may go to Jharkendar in chapter 1 or 2 even.

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    Not a bug, but an option that existed to retrieve the stuck ornament previously. Since we fixed the bug, it is unnecessary, but I never bothered to disable it.
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    Zitat Zitat von Korianous Beitrag anzeigen
    Not a bug, but an option that existed to retrieve the stuck ornament previously. Since we fixed the bug, it is unnecessary, but I never bothered to disable it.
    Oh thanks for letting me know that never knew what it translated too I guess the Stück shoud of given me a clue lol.

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    [Report] ICP 1.0a bugs

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    Hmm, strange. We'll need to take a look at the scripts for that thing. Could you please, recopy this into the BuG thread, please?
    I couldn't find any bug thread so I hope this is the right place.

    In fear of being a spammer, ill just re-write the problem.

    I currently have 1H-10% and 2H-30%, with 30 LP saved up. (actually this is a lie, I just went ahead and took the bug in the arse ) Maybe ill marvin some 1H skill in there or something- if this is even possible.

    When I try to learn 2H again, at 10LP/5skill points ratio, I will end up with this:
    1H-10%, 2H-35%
    And again,
    1H-15%, 2H-40%

    Then I tried it going with the 2LP/1 skill point ratio, and ended up with this:
    1H-11%, 2H-40%.

    Now im not any programmer by any means, but if I were to take a wild guess, I would say that someone goofed when they were changeing the values in whatever file governs LP:skill ratio(when they were changing it for str/dex/mana possibly?).

    If you look at the data I collected above, you will see that 40% is the new "transition stage" where you must begin learning the other proficiency. For it to work correctly, one either needs to change the LP cost from 30-40 OR change the "transition stage" to 31%(so it works with 1 LP increments as well).

    I have tried just about anything to get around this bug- stipped all gear, tried learning 1H to 30% first, went to another trainer, it all just seems to be something with a data file that is messed up.

    Anyways, it seems that Tratos has never heard of this problem. So here comes the almighty question: am I the only one experienceing this glitch/bug? Take a look at your characters stats, maybe you never even noticed this happened?

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