[KingOvi]

All about game editing and Modding.

What do you know about gothic modding ? Is that hard ?
Gothic MDK, is in german, but with Power Translator, you can translate all words in english.

What appart 3d Studio Max, do i need for modeling and making models, worlds, npc's ?

[Sektenspinner]

Gothic Editing is quite difficult. Esspecially for you English guys since the Modkit is in German. I'm not sure wether this works properly or not.

At first you should decide what you are interested in:

-Moddeling
I don't know very much about moddeling and therefore I can't tell you which tools you need. The advantage of moddeling for you would be, that it is international. You don't have to translate anything from German into English.
But only with moddeling you will not get very far, since you need to script NPCs and Dialogs, too, to form an entire Mod.

With Moddeling you can:
- Create your own Item-Meshes
- Create your own World-Meshes

-Spacering
With the socalled Spacer you can place the VOBs (Virtuell Objects) on the level mesh, including several trees, bushes, items, waypoints, MOBs (movable objects) and other little ambient things.

-Scripting
Afaik there is no English mod kit available. And this is a big problem for you, since all the Dialogs and many texts and identifiers have german names.
The advantage is, that you can create a mod only with scripting (playing in an existing world).

You need Scripting for:
- NPCs
- Dialoges
- Quests
- Daily Routines
- AI of the the NPCs

[KingOvi]

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I know modeling, but i need scripting infos. G MDK have tutorials ?

[Sektenspinner]

I know modeling, but i need scripting infos. G MDK have tutorials ?

-Scripting
Afaik there is no English mod kit available. And this is a big problem for you, since all the Dialogs and many texts and identifiers have german names.
The advantage is, that you can create a mod only with scripting (playing in an existing world).

You need Scripting for:
- NPCs
- Dialoges
- Quests
- Daily Routines
- AI of the the NPCs

There are German tutorials, I don't think there are any English ones. For scritpting you only need an editor. this can be Crimson Editor or just the Windows default Editor.

The easiest for you would be to read through several gothic scripts, especially through NPC and Dialog-Scripts.

[KingOvi]

I think i can use ultra edit 32.

If i kow 3d modeling and gothic scripting, what else i need ? I can use Maya for my models ?

[Sektenspinner]

If i kow 3d modeling and gothic scripting,

Most of the Modders choose to specify on one area of expertise. Thats a lot easier. But it's your choice.

what else i need ?

At first you need time. Plenty of time.
But further tools? For scripting you only need the tools that are in the Modkit. But I don't know anything about moddeling.
I didn't even hear about "Maya".

Well, since I can't help you the best thing would be to ask the Pro-Modelers.

Could one of the mods move this topic into the German editing area?

[Talvar]

Maya is a moddeling program like Milkshape.
It is no problem to use Maya for your models.
There is no English Tutorial for scripting, and I do not think there will be one soon.
It is too difficult for English-speaking people to make a Modifikation for Gothic.
But if you can speak German a little, you can try it.

[Bartacus]

Always good to hear one saying about moddeling. I can't and I won't, but I just like to try them out.

[one-cool]

Could one of the mods move this topic into the German editing area?

Yeah I could.

But there will be a link to this place from her, so they can find it.

@editing Mods (in german written ): wenn die Probleme gelöst sind etc. könntet ihr den Thread wieder zurückschieben, damit man ihn als Beispiel für die Leute nehmen können, und man ihn im englisch-forum weiterverwenden kann?

wäre recht praktisch, thx .

[Rolus]

I know modeling, but i need scripting infos. G MDK have tutorials ?

Here you'll find four english tutorials. About scripting, spacing and modelling. I think these tutorials will help you to learn more about making Gothic-Mods.

best wishes, Rolus

[KingOvi]

That tutorials won't help too much, but is good. I think i will translate the german tutorials in english, with PT Pro.

[gothicfan359]

@ovinet-hero: You can use Maya for your Meshes. But you must export your Models e.g. as *.obj and then anybody must import that file in 3D Studio Max or Cinema4D or Milkshape because there isn't an 3ds exporter for Maya. There shouldn't be other problems.
I hope you understand it.

[KingOvi]

@ovinet-hero: You can use Maya for your Meshes. But you must export your Models e.g. as *.obj and then anybody must import that file in 3D Studio Max or Cinema4D or Milkshape because there isn't an 3ds exporter for Maya. There shouldn't be other problems.
I hope you understand it.

Ys, Yes, thanks !!!

What 3d program you think is the best ?

[Sytrex]

for g2 modelling: 3d studio max 3-5

[Eldred]

That tutorials won't help too much, but is good. I think i will translate the german tutorials in english, with PT Pro.

Hmm unfortunately you'll find out that these tutorials from Rolus are the the original german tutorials from the german editing wiki and also from the MDK. The best way to understand the means of gothic editing is to have a look on the original gothic scripts and understand them. Unfortunately the explanations in the script documents are in german, so you will have to translate those sentences that are put behind // .

[gothicfan359]

But the best 3D Programm for all things is Maya. But if you mean what the best 3d Programm for Gothic 2 is, then it ist 3d Studio max 3-5. To import a *.obj model, i think cinema4D or 3d Studio max is the best because with milkshape there is a polygon limit.

[KingOvi]

But the best 3D Programm for all things is Maya. But if you mean what the best 3d Programm for Gothic 2 is, then it ist 3d Studio max 3-5. To import a *.obj model, i think cinema4D or 3d Studio max is the best because with milkshape there is a polygon limit.

Maya is the best for 3d modelin', but why 3d sm 3-5, i will buy 7. That is the newwest version so..

[Sytrex]

because there r no plugins avaible to export animations for g2...

[gothicfan359]

For Gothic it is 3d Studio Max 3-5, like sytrex said, because you can`t make animations with it for gothic. But if you just want to make models, then 3dsmax 7 is the best version. But for gothic 3 i think you will be able to make animations with 3dsmax 7. So i think you should buy the newest version of 3dsmax.

[KingOvi]

Yes, I buy 3dSM 7, and 4 for gothic. I really want to make a mod.