[Mikael Oddmund]

Hello, dear people,

Glad to be here among ELEX enthusiasts!

I really need help with one issue i'm encountering:

I've played the game (on Steam) for about 10h. and now i've decided to give modding a try.
So, i've selected the only two mods i want (Overhaul Plus and Darker Nights and Brighter Interiors), both with their last version, and tried to install. First, i've done the manual install by copying the two .pak files into the game folder: \ELEX\data\packed and run the game. No changes. The mods were not loaded.
Then i've tried using the Vortez method, i've installed the mods with the mod manager, it appears (inside Vortex) that 2 mods are installed, but again when i tun the game they are not there...

Please explain me what am i missing... ?

Many thanks to all of you willing to help!

[DarthNihilus]

could someone remind me how do i get position in the game?

[tombom81]

could someone remind me how do i get position in the game?

Which position do you mean exactly? Position of the player? Use DynamicTeleporter (Nexus mods).

Or the position of dynamic entities (world sector files, elex(2)secdoc)?

Example "Tpl_Bld_Out_Gate_02" (Elex 2) 152547.141 41038.4727 -46615.875,
where 41038.4727 is the height.

        "Tpl_Bld_Out_Gate_02" {
            GUID = {D7C66416-2227-41A7-AB7A-D8A8216A5242};
            Creator = {C72EC8CB-8486-4DE4-81D8-F7389039A794};
            MatrixLocal = (mat 0.6646052 0 0.747193873 0 0 0.99999994 0 0 -0.747193873 0 0.6646052 0 152547.141 41038.4727 -46615.875 1);

[DarthNihilus]

Which position do you mean exactly?

yes, position of the player. for item placement purposes. decided to finish my mod, but i forgot how did i got those coordinates LMAO

[DarthNihilus]

is there any info about how different gEInfoCondType affects the dialogs?

[tombom81]

is there any info about how different gEInfoCondType affects the dialogs?

Not sure what you mean exactly. If an infoscript (dialog) has a quest the following gEInfoCondTypes determine when the dialog is active (== visible dialog line) (dependent on the quest's state, Running, Delivery, Failed, Success) while InfoCondType Activator activates the quest.

[DarthNihilus]

Not sure what you mean exactly. If an infoscript (dialog) has a quest the following gEInfoCondTypes determine when the dialog is active (== visible dialog line) (dependent on the quest's state, Running, Delivery, Failed, Success) while InfoCondType Activator activates the quest.

yes, that's what i wanted to know.

[DarthNihilus]

one late question - are the loottables accessible?

[tombom81]

Loot tables of items? Concerning the npc's inventories? Usually the devs define the initial values (weapons, items) by code (exe, dll) here.

Changeable by modifying savegames. Or you could use InfoCommandGive in a dialog to transfer items.

(Npc's weapons are in the hidden stack. Can be made unhidden. But that's another story.)

[DarthNihilus]

Loot tables of items?

well, i meant, like, the animal trophies.

[DarthNihilus]

can i omit a property if it's default value?
like do i need to write

     bool Permanent = True;                
                int CurrentInfoCommandIndex = 0;
                bool InfoIsRunnig = False;
                int StartChapter = -1;
                int EndChapter = -1;
                int CommentGivenCmdIndex = 0;
                class eCEntityStringProxy SmalltalkPartner = "";
                int SmalltalkGivenCmdIndex = -1;
                bool SmalltalkRewind = False;
                float SmalltalkInnerRange = 600;
                bool SmalltalkInnerRangeTestWithLOS = True;
                float SmalltalkOuterRange = 1200;
                class bCString SmalltalkExitRoutineName = "";
                class bCString SmalltalkPartnerExitRoutineName = "";}

or the

bool Permanent = True;}

will be enough?

[tombom81]

can i omit a property if it's default value?

I didn't test it but I'm pretty sure, you can't.

btw: usually you use copies of infos (don't you?), then change the properties of your concerns. So it's not really "time saving" when "omitting".

[DarthNihilus]

though i successfully edited the _Items sectors, and the _Interactibles, I can't get it what's wrong - i was editing the
HOM_Buildings
HOM_Decoration
HOM_Nature
sectors but the edits are not changing in the game...even starting a new one... why would the game do that with me?

[tombom81]

though i successfully edited the _Items sectors, and the _Interactibles, I can't get it what's wrong - i was editing the
HOM_Buildings
HOM_Decoration
HOM_Nature
sectors but the edits are not changing in the game...even starting a new one... why would the game do that with me?

I remember that problem. Worked for me when putting new entites into a _NPCs.elex2sec(doc) file.
edit: reviewing modded elexsecdoc files I found this line modified:
bool StaticScene = False;
instead of "True". Thus changes will apply, because the game doesn't handle the sector as static any more.

Starting a new game is only required, when you want to change savegame relevant data. For example items in existing chests. (That's logical, at least.)

Btw, I remember people having created an own worldsector file for Elex 1, but the name has to be registered in the World.elexwrl file then.
Read here.

[DarthNihilus]

i do know about the World file for new things. This time i wanted to edit a bit of the vanilla surface (wanted to remove all the bushes, which are branches xD) also wanted to make some paintings but the cat is only 512*512, and i don't have any idea how to make a custom new painting thing. was thinking about modding the mesh of the cat paint but donno how to open the meshfile. if just someone could make me a template for a 1024 panting, so i have to replace just the Df image...

[tombom81]

if just someone could make me a template for a 1024 panting, so i have to replace just the Df image...

Talking about .eleximg files? That's rather simple: they contain a DDS header which contains width and height as DWords.

Maybe the problem with "cat" (catalogue? atlas file?) is different. But it's hard to judge because your description of the problem is "diffuse". You don't give enough details (names of involved files for example?)

[DarthNihilus]

Talking about .eleximg files? That's rather simple: they contain a DDS header which contains width and height as DWords.

Maybe the problem with "cat" (catalogue? atlas file?) is different. But it's hard to judge because your description of the problem is "diffuse". You don't give enough details (names of involved files for example?)

by the "cat" i mean the cat painting (image) Obj_Dec_Hum_Painting_1_Df.eleximg
i tried to place a full hd image instead of the cat image but it shrinks the image to the original size (512*512) in the game
so i thought maybe only editing the mesh will allow me to make the painting object bigger to fit the 1920 image?

[tombom81]

by the "cat" i mean the cat painting (image) Obj_Dec_Hum_Painting_1_Df.eleximg
i tried to place a full hd image instead of the cat image but it shrinks the image to the original size (512*512) in the game
so i thought maybe only editing the mesh will allow me to make the painting object bigger to fit the 1920 image?

Understand. I'll check that (and maybe the mesh) when I have time.

btw: where is said picture displayed in the game?

[DarthNihilus]

Understand. I'll check that (and maybe the mesh) when I have time.

btw: where is said picture displayed in the game?

the most known location is the ruin to the left of Abessa entrance (which is near the city wall)
https://fastupload.io/en/UMxdWjMjhYqMjYB/preview

[tombom81]

Strange cat that you have there!

I doubled the size of the picture frame mesh in all 3 dimensions and checked it in blender; looked ok.
https://upload.worldofplayers.de/fil...nting_1_L1.zip
HTH

(btw: there's some more blocks of vertices in the file which I don't quite understand, col mesh? whatever. So I hope I didn't miss something.)

edit: well, doesn't seem to work (I remember having had a cleaning_bot 5 times bigger, but that was an skn file)