[MaGoth]

Well, this is awesome Are You one of the systempack devs?

Yes.

I have one question: since systempack already provides some control over magic barrier in G1, would it be possible for You to completely implement barrier to Gothic 2?

It is very difficult. Not to mention the fact that in G2 instead barrier implemented lightning.


MfG MaGoth,

[Sentinel]

Ist das ein bekanntes bzw. öfter auftretendes Problem? Siehe insbesondere letzter Absatz.

[Guzz]

Ist das ein bekanntes bzw. öfter auftretendes Problem? Siehe insbesondere letzter Absatz.

I can't solve this. The best that I can do is bring back in-game FPS limiter as option in SystemPack.ini in next update.

Hero can't climb on ledges only when FPS is too high.
SystemPack removes FPS limiter - 40ms (~25 FPS) which Gothic 1 uses by default when you press any keyboard button.
If you play in fullscreen mode with Vsync enabled, then you will not experience any problem with climbing on ledges. Because Vsync cap maximum FPS to 30-144.
If you play in windowed mode or fullscreen mode with disabled Vsync in video driver settings, then climbing on some ledges may doesn't work.
Funny, that even Risen 1 have same problem with climbing on ledges at high FPS.

So, here's solutions to avoid this bug:

• Play in fullscreen mode with Vsync
• Use external FPS limiter if you play in windowed mode or with disabled Vsync

[Hotzenplotzräuber]

Unlimited FPS are always bad, because this will stress your hardware even when it's an old game. So I think Systempack should limit FPS to 60. More FPS will just cause negative effects anyway.

[Belschwur]

Why 60 fps?
If 144 fps work it will be allways the better Option.

(And Unlimited FPS are never bad )

[Marek33]

Unlimited FPS are always bad, because this will stress your hardware even when it's an old game. So I think Systempack should limit FPS to 60. More FPS will just cause negative effects anyway.

Please, no! There are a lot of programs like the MSI Afterburner, DxTory, RadeonPro, NVIDIA Inspector and more which can limit your framerate and its absolutely not needed to make a fps limit with the systempack.

Why 60 fps?
If 144 fps work it will be allways the better Option.

(And Unlimited FPS are never bad )

That's mostly true, but your hardware can overheat if you have a lot of FPS and there is almost no difference in FPS over 280 which is probably the maximum (some people can see 200 and others, even 280 or maybe even 300, but there is probably no one who can see more since the human eye is not imperfect).

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Unfortunately, there are even those which can see only 30fps. Especially those which are from one company which likes to make open world games.

[polskieobozy]

Im looking for g2returning-systempack-1.6.exe... Links are dead, i mean i cant download anything from this link please help me
i need this systempack to work on my gf pc

[Hotzenplotzräuber]

No, you are absolutely wrong! More than 60 FPS will always cause negative effects on 60 Hz monitors, apart of physic issues in many games. 60 FPS are smoother than 100 FPS and looks better on every Windows computer that runs on 60 Hz. You might also start to see tearing and micro stuttering, which happens when your videocard is rendering frames faster than your monitor can display them. FPS should always be synchron with your monitor's refresh rate set by Windows. An other thing is that even old games would kill your GTX 1080 @ 2000 FPS, so it should never be unlimited. External tools are a solution, but it's better to have this fixed directly by the game. Skyrim recently got an update to add 60 FPS limitation to avoid heavy in-game bugs.

You could make an extra option for 120/144 Hz monitors in the SystemPack ini, but for everyone who don't have this, 60 FPS will be the best! Not 61, not 70, not 300 --> 60. Keep in mind that original Gothic was limited to 25/30 FPS.

[Guzz]

Im looking for g2returning-systempack-1.6.exe... Links are dead, i mean i cant download anything from this link please help me
i need this systempack to work on my gf pc

systempack-1.6.zip

Can You also implement similar fix for using ladder animation? Make it not interruptable? This is very annoying in original Gothic 1, especially in the new mine, when guards are shooting with crossbows and the hero is falling down from ladder over and over again...

Will be in next update.

[polskieobozy]

When im trying to play g2 returnin i can see this text "ast.dll not loaded" and then g2 the returning is changing to g2 notr. i dont know what to do please help

[Marek33]

No, you are absolutely wrong! More than 60 FPS will always cause negative effects on 60 Hz monitors, apart of physic issues in many games. 60 FPS are smoother than 100 FPS and looks better on every Windows computer that runs on 60 Hz. You might also start to see tearing and micro stuttering, which happens when your videocard is rendering frames faster than your monitor can display them. FPS should always be synchron with your monitor's refresh rate set by Windows. An other thing is that even old games would kill your GTX 1080 @ 2000 FPS, so it should never be unlimited. External tools are a solution, but it's better to have this fixed directly by the game. Skyrim recently got an update to add 60 FPS limitation to avoid heavy in-game bugs.

You could make an extra option for 120/144 Hz monitors in the SystemPack ini, but for everyone who don't have this, 60 FPS will be the best! Not 61, not 70, not 300 --> 60. Keep in mind that original Gothic was limited to 25/30 FPS.

And that's why I don't use 60 Hz monitor.

Well, you are right, but I don't have a 60 Hz and I'm planning to buy 144Hz since its way better than the 60 Hz monitor. More FPS is mostly better if you have a monitor for it and it's better to spend more money on a one monitor than a surgery if your eyes would be damaged from the 60 Hz monitor. And having more than 300 FPS is not needed since probably nobody can see the difference.

I would fully support this if the user can choose the limit since if not, then I wouldn't much like it.

That would definitely would be the best since even that I'm still using CRT monitors (since I don't want to buy a 60 Hz one) I have 75 fps and It would be better to have 120 or 144 when I will buy a new monitor. And of course that I knew that original Gothic 1 was limited to 25 FPS since when I first time completed it was with that framerate.

[Guzz]

When im trying to play g2 returnin i can see this text "ast.dll not loaded" and then g2 the returning is changing to g2 notr. i dont know what to do please help

Remove / disable any antivirus software, disable UAC, remove KB3118401 and KB2919355 if you use Windows 8.1. Reinstall all Visual C++ Redist.
Then reinstall game.
If all of this didn't help.

[Demondays]

And that's why I don't use 60 Hz monitor.

Well, you are right, but I don't have a 60 Hz and I'm planning to buy 144Hz since its way better than the 60 Hz monitor. More FPS is mostly better if you have a monitor for it and it's better to spend more money on a one monitor than a surgery if your eyes would be damaged from the 60 Hz monitor.

That would definitely would be the best since even that I'm still using CRT monitors (since I don't want to buy a 60 Hz one) I have 75 fps and It would be better to have 120 or 144 when I will buy a new monitor.

Hey, but do You realize that lcd monitors doesnt need so high refresh rate as old CRTs due to completely different way of how they display pixels? LCDs basically doesnt refresh pixells all the time like CRT do, so even low refresh rate do not tire human eyes. Here You can read more about differences if You want:
http://superuser.com/questions/286755/does-the-refresh-rate-affect-lcd-screens

I remember having CRT monitor and comfortable refresh rate was from 85Hz. Everything below had visible flickering. 60Hz was terrible for eyes, 75Hz was a little better but flickering was still visible so if You really care about Your eyes You should get rid of this CRT with 75hz an buy some lcd. Even with 60hz it will be much better and healthier for You.

And sorry for OT

[Hotzenplotzräuber]

Demondays mentioned what I wanted to say. And I don't think these 144 Hz G-Sync/Free-Sync monitors will become standard. I'm using a TV for gaming because I need 55" and greater. Every TV and standard monitor is only limited to 60 Hz under Windows as far as I know.

There should be an option in the SystemPack to switch between 60 FPS (limited) and 144 FPS, but keep in mind that you'll experience strange issues with more than 60 FPS. Not only with Gothic. The first FPS patch caused issues on the gate at Gor Boba that won't open and the meat bugs were transparency. SystemPack already fixed this, but as we can see there are new issues. That's the reason why Gothic originally was limited to 25 FPS, but to be honest on large monitors it's unplayable at 25 FPS. 60 are a huge improvement. We should be happy with this. Don't exceed it too much.

[MaGoth]

When im trying to play g2 returnin i can see this text "ast.dll not loaded" and then g2 the returning is changing to g2 notr. i dont know what to do please help

Guzz, Remove / disable any antivirus software, disable UAC, remove KB3118401 and KB2919355 if you use Windows 8.1. Reinstall all Visual C++ Redist.
Then reinstall game.
If all of this didn't help.

If you are using Windows 7, install Service Pack 1 and all updates for your OS.


MfG MaGoth,

[Marek33]

Hey, but do You realize that lcd monitors doesnt need so high refresh rate as old CRTs due to completely different way of how they display pixels? LCDs basically doesnt refresh pixells all the time like CRT do, so even low refresh rate do not tire human eyes. Here You can read more about differences if You want:
http://superuser.com/questions/286755/does-the-refresh-rate-affect-lcd-screens

I remember having CRT monitor and comfortable refresh rate was from 85Hz. Everything below had visible flickering. 60Hz was terrible for eyes, 75Hz was a little better but flickering was still visible so if You really care about Your eyes You should get rid of this CRT with 75hz an buy some lcd. Even with 60hz it will be much better and healthier for You.

And sorry for OT

Thanks for the link and yes, I know about that, but I mean that I don't want to buy some standard one since I have enough money for a new monitor, but I don't have a lot for an eye surgery.

I have currently 75 and it's good enough, but definitely 85Hz is much better. And I don't have no visible flickering.

Demondays mentioned what I wanted to say. And I don't think these 144 Hz G-Sync/Free-Sync monitors will become standard. I'm using a TV for gaming because I need 55" and greater. Every TV and standard monitor is only limited to 60 Hz under Windows as far as I know.

There should be an option in the SystemPack to switch between 60 FPS (limited) and 144 FPS, but keep in mind that you'll experience strange issues with more than 60 FPS. Not only with Gothic. The first FPS patch caused issues on the gate at Gor Boba that won't open and the meat bugs were transparency. SystemPack already fixed this, but as we can see there are new issues. That's the reason why Gothic originally was limited to 25 FPS, but to be honest on large monitors it's unplayable at 25 FPS. 60 are a huge improvement. We should be happy with this. Don't exceed it too much.

I want to buy a normal 144 Hz with no G-Sync or Free-Sync since that will take some time for it to become better. One great youtuber called Battle(non)sense https://www.youtube.com/user/xFPxAUTh0r1ty/videos has made some videos about the G-Sync if you are interested.

It would be best if there is an option so everyone would be satisfied. Also, I'm really grateful for that, but if I can play it on 144FPS for example and it will be playable (so I can complete the game) it would be great. Even if 60FPS is definitely enough for me.

[Demondays]

I don't want to buy some standard one since I have enough money for a new monitor, but I don't have a lot for an eye surgery.

Im sorry but this doesnt make any sense. Your current 75Hz CRT monitor from 2000s is way worse for Your eyes than today standard 60Hz lcd monitor... You should get rid of it asap.

[polskieobozy]

If you are using Windows 7, install Service Pack 1 and all updates for your OS.


MfG MaGoth,

Tha

Thank you my friend its working

[Marek33]

Im sorry but this doesnt make any sense. Your current 75Hz CRT monitor from 2000s is way worse for Your eyes than today standard 60Hz lcd monitor... You should get rid of it asap.

I will but first I need to fix some problems with a PC and then I will buy a new monitor. Of course that I have to have enough money for it as well.

[Hotzenplotzräuber]

60 Hz LCD is even better than 100 Hz CRT. Believe me, there is no flickering and it's much clearer than CRT.
I recommend a 48" UHD-TV for 400 Euros with HDMI 2.0 so that you'll have 3.840 x 2.160 @ 60 Hz.