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    Hey. I have heard that there is a whole story about characters of the 4 friends of Nameless hero, written himself PB, and that it tells the whole of their past lives, is it true? can anyone to share these knowledge here? truth very interestingly. I am confident that many this will have happy know for this question associated with history characters excites minds many his fans and to this day.
    And one more question. In this article http://www.worldofgothic.de/gothic/links_cat3_1.htm a brief biography of Nameless is told. Is this reliable information about him, or was this story planned for the alpha versions of Gothic 1?
    I think you mean the Comic, that tells the story how the four met the first time in a prison in the town Khorinis

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    Hey. I have heard that there is a whole story about characters of the 4 friends of Nameless hero, written himself PB, and that it tells the whole of their past lives, is it true? can anyone to share these knowledge here? truth very interestingly. I am confident that many this will have happy know for this question associated with history characters excites minds many his fans and to this day.
    And one more question. In this article http://www.worldofgothic.de/gothic/links_cat3_1.htm a brief biography of Nameless is told. Is this reliable information about him, or was this story planned for the alpha versions of Gothic 1?
    Can you link to the interview you mean? You do not link to an article here but to an overview of articles. I guess that you mean an interview with Torsten Dinkheller, but there he seems to confuse the background story of Milten told in the Gothic Comic with the background story of the nameless hero (at least I was reading it like this).
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    Sorry, not the contestant exile gave. Here are the correct ones https://worldofplayers.ru/threads/39352/

    https://web.archive.org/web/20041226...artikel_id=639

    Krawall: Wovon handelt die Hintergrundgeschichte ?
    Torsten: Der Hintergrund wird im Gothic Comic beschrieben. Der Held wird zwangsrekrutiert, da eine Orkhorde das Land überschwemmt. Er wird in einer Garnison an der Front eingesetzt und sieht sich schnell der Übermacht der Orks gegenüber. Daher beschließt er zu desertieren. In einem nahgelegenen Dorf wird er dann aufgegriffen, als er stiehlt. Da der Held ein Brandzeichen der königlichen Armee hat, ist sehr schnell klar, dass er desertiert sein muss und wird zum Tode oder einer lebenslangen Haftstrafe verurteilt. Die Entscheidung ist schnell gefällt und so wird er in den Knast geworfen. Dieser Knast ist vor langer Zeit entstanden. Wie genau ist aber ein Teil der Story und wird hier nicht verraten. Sicher ist, dass der Knast von einer magischen Barriere umgeben wird, die alles Leben reinlässt und nichts Lebendes lebend wieder hinaus.
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    Sorry, not the contestant exile gave. Here are the correct ones https://worldofplayers.ru/threads/39352/

    https://web.archive.org/web/20041226...artikel_id=639

    Krawall: Wovon handelt die Hintergrundgeschichte ?
    Torsten: Der Hintergrund wird im Gothic Comic beschrieben. Der Held wird zwangsrekrutiert, da eine Orkhorde das Land überschwemmt. Er wird in einer Garnison an der Front eingesetzt und sieht sich schnell der Übermacht der Orks gegenüber. Daher beschließt er zu desertieren. In einem nahgelegenen Dorf wird er dann aufgegriffen, als er stiehlt. Da der Held ein Brandzeichen der königlichen Armee hat, ist sehr schnell klar, dass er desertiert sein muss und wird zum Tode oder einer lebenslangen Haftstrafe verurteilt. Die Entscheidung ist schnell gefällt und so wird er in den Knast geworfen. Dieser Knast ist vor langer Zeit entstanden. Wie genau ist aber ein Teil der Story und wird hier nicht verraten. Sicher ist, dass der Knast von einer magischen Barriere umgeben wird, die alles Leben reinlässt und nichts Lebendes lebend wieder hinaus.
    Thats the story from the comic and the "hero" in it is Milten from Gothic 1

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    I think you mean the Comic, that tells the story how the four met the first time in a prison in the town Khorinis
    there is no, I mean that there is some a biography every persons in which states about age, traits character and the most past history life even before events the comic itself.
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    there is no, I mean that there is some a biography every persons in which states about age, traits character and the most past history life even before events the comic itself.
    What you mean is inside the Sequel documentation by Stefan Nyul and Alex Brüggemann.
    But there is no information about the background story of the nameless hero. Only the four friends and Thora.
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    What you mean is inside the Sequel documentation by Stefan Nyul and Alex Brüggemann.
    But there is no information about the background story of the nameless hero. Only the four friends and Thora.
    Oh, even from the Gothic Sequel. I like more the alpha versions of Gothic 1. Although there 4 friends Nameless plays the role of the heroes themselves.

    Information about the background of the Nameless I took from the above interview. Asked in an interview about the background of the game like, so it turns out the Background of the Nameless revealed. It certainly coincides a little with the history Milten, but it's probably just a coincidence.

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    Oh, even from the Gothic Sequel. I like more the alpha versions of Gothic 1. Although there 4 friends Nameless plays the role of the heroes themselves.

    Information about the background of the Nameless I took from the above interview. Asked in an interview about the background of the game like, so it turns out the Background of the Nameless revealed. It certainly coincides a little with the history Milten, but it's probably just a coincidence.
    You misunderstand this. Thorsten is describing the story of the "hero" of the comic in this interview. And in the Comic, Milten is the main protagonist. And if he meant the nameless hero, then its a failure from his side and he was confusing the two. Also, such a background story does not make sense for the hero, since in the Alpha of Gothic, at the beginning, the player is able to tell Diego something about the reason why he was convicted. And none of those reasons the player can choose equates to the story of Milten.
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    Hmm, this information was already provided and permitted by Stefan Nyul for use in a video on YouTube, but since here already have people which asked about it, I will partially tell you about it now. After all, it makes no difference when this information would finally be available to all of us - now or only a few years later, I and others are convinced that it would have been disclosed anyway.
    Diego is 36 years old.
    Becoming: Orphan. Grew up on the streets. Learned thieving and fighting skills. Spent at least half his life behind bars. For the last time he made friends with Lester, Gorn and Milten. Accompanied the main character in "GOTHIC". After the fall of the barrier remained in the Old camp, because not has nor loved, nor friends somewhere still. He has gained power in old camp, and the country is at war.

    Lester is 25 years old.
    Becoming: Incomplete training from a clothier, weaver, cook and Tanner. A slacker, a master of survival and a ladies ' man.
    He was arrested because he was seen without pants with the wife of the city governor.
    Behind bars befriended with Diego, Gorn and Milten.
    In the colony was among the psionics, because there the illusion of freedom reached its apogee, well, and because swamp plant, of course. Thanks to his talent, he was able to develop his paranormal skills without much difficulty.
    After the fall of the barrier, he unfortunately found that this simplicity was due not so much to his talent as to the influence of the barrier. Since then, his skills have been greatly overspent. Lester has immersed himself in alchemy and is experimenting with anything he thinks is appropriate to improve his magic/paranormal skills.

    He hoped that with the will he had found he would remain in the mountain fortress, but the king explained everything to him in a popular way. (Perhaps Thora was the man the king had given to task of finding a suitable hiding place, and she had driven Lester away! After all, it's a scout)

    Milten is 26 years old.
    Becoming: Grew up in a simple but devout family. Always wanted to achieve more and learned a lot. However, he was forcibly drafted into the army before he could complete his training.
    He had deserted during a battle against the orcs in which there was no chance of success. Since his intellect and selfishness were stronger than his sense of duty, he was the only one who survived the battle without getting a scratch. Later he was arrested for stealing apples, declared a deserter and sent to prison. There he met Lester, Diego, and Gorn and befriended them.
    In the colony Fire mages drew attention on Milten. (intelligence and talent for magic), and he became the first among the prisoners who took their ranks. Shortly before the barrier fell, the other Fire mages in the colony were killed by the ore barons.
    The barrier fell. He left the colony and joined the order of Fire mages in the monastery of Fire.

    Gorn is 29 years old.
    Becoming: Grew up in a small village. Not educated, not too smart, but already in 14 years was so strong, that broke the stepfather jaw, when the beat his mother. Already in 15 years he arrived in mobilization point, received their armor and joined the Royal army. There he has mastered the military craft, and several years fought against orcs. Despite this, he was never promoted because he often disregarded the chain of command and did not get along with his superiors.
    After another fight in a tavern, being pretty drunk, he ran into a Sergeant, accidentally broke his neck with one blow and inflicted severe injuries on three of his men.
    The very next day he met Lester, Milten, and Diego in prison.
    In colony, he joined New camp, because there were no superior.
    After the fall of the barrier, he had to kill his brothers, he remembers nothing about the events of that night. He has been regretful and depressed ever since.

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    Thank you very much for this very interesting contribution. do you have more information that is not so well known? I always find something exciting.

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    Als Ergänzung: Es ist nicht von einem Kloster des Feuers die Rede, das man aus Gothic 2 kennt, in das Milten nach dem Fall der Barriere kurze Zeit ging, wie hier übersetzt wurde, sondern vom "Tempel des Feuers" in Khorinis.
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    Of course, but all in good time..

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    Als Ergänzung: Es ist nicht von einem Kloster des Feuers die Rede, das man aus Gothic 2 kennt, in das Milten nach dem Fall der Barriere kurze Zeit ging, wie hier übersetzt wurde, sondern vom "Tempel des Feuers" in Khorinis.
    War Milten im Sequel nicht beim König in der Felsenfestung von Bergmar? Oder verwechsele ich hier etwas?

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    War Milten im Sequel nicht beim König in der Felsenfestung von Bergmar?
    Doch, deshalb wie gesagt: Kurze Zeit. Es liegen ja 6 Monate zwischen den Ereignissen in Gothic und Sequel. Milten ging in den Tempel des Feuers, ehe er dann mit den Königstruppen ins Minental zog.
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    Doch, deshalb wie gesagt: Kurze Zeit. Es liegen ja 6 Monate zwischen den Ereignissen in Gothic und Sequel. Milten ging in den Tempel des Feuers, ehe er dann mit den Königstruppen ins Minental zog.
    Dass ganze 6 Monate zwischen Gothic und Sequel vergangen waren, wusste ich nicht. Darum die Verwirrung. Danke für die Aufklärung.

    Also wurde die Idee, dass Milten zu den Feuermagiern geht und zurück ins Tal kommt, wiederverwendet.
    • Sequel - Milten geht kurze Zeit zum Tempel des Feuers. Danach kommt er mit dem König und seinen Truppen zurück.
    • Gothic II - Milten geht ins Kloster der Feuermagier. Wie die Expedition ins Minental aufbricht, angeführt von Garond, schließt sich Milten an und kehrt ins Minental zurück.

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    Ja genau. Da gibts ein paar Parallelen.
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    ​Also am asking turn your attention on the fact, that under creating biography accounted for the plot gothic comic, this clearly says in favour moreover, that themselves PB regarded his canonical in the time. If Alex and Stefan used it as a basis for creation characters, it was quite obvious to their liking.
    At the present time, if we consider the Gothic series as:
    Gothic 1 + sequel, then in such a case gothic comic is canonical source of and according to this option very barrier 20 years.
    And if as Gothic 1 + Gothic 2 + Gothic 3, then already there is no and according to this scenario barrier has age 10 years.
    Gothic 2 used a lot of ideas from the Gothic Sequel, I will mention another example with guild thieves in Gothic 2. In order to join guild, we must fulfill the orders of 3 petty thieves and then we will have the opportunity to dialogue with Attila. And now are looking the link with Gothic Sequel: if we are helping 3 beggars giving them silver (on fact they, too, are petty thieves and collectors information) the us will have discovered opportunity dialogue with Jesper. (In gothic sequel he is leader guild beggars, whic owning hidden information.)
    Kardiff, Halvor, Nagur, Rengaru, gardener are the same collectors of information as the beggars in the sequel, this is another borrowed and expanded idea from the canceled project.
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    But you shouldn't confuse the beggars and the thieves in the Sequel.
    There are different quests to solve to become a thief in the Sequel.
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    But you shouldn't confuse the beggars and the thieves in the Sequel.
    I do not confuse them. I do not accidentally called beggars are not only collectors of information, but also "petty thieves". Just because they're begging for money doesn't mean they're generally not stealing. Recall, that 49 year-old Jesper, Instructs "Petty Pilferers" (there Are in mind themselves beggars), and to him lead all strings. Beggars and thieves working in tandem and shelter each other, beggars supply information to thieves. This is almost the same thing that we can see in Gothic 2. In Horinis, the thieves ' Guild has informants everywhere, too.
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    There are different quests to solve to become a thief in the Sequel.
    Spoiler:(zum lesen bitte Text markieren)
    Yeah, we're certainly aware of that.. In order to join guild, it was planned to perform 2 more unrealized quests in the last build gothic sequel: to Steal book by blacksmith (ITWR_SMITH_ART_01) from the warehouse in the old camp (The warehouse that robs Okil in the screenshot comic) and return the key (ITKE_EDO) to the 40-year-old leader of the Guild of thieves Edo. This key to his chest was taken from him by the militia and given to Berengar himself. (The blacksmith Gotmar complained about Edo and Berengar decided to punish thief this method)
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    I do not confuse them. I do not accidentally called beggars are not only collectors of information, but also "petty thieves". Just because they're begging for money doesn't mean they're generally not stealing. Recall, that 49 year-old Jesper, Instructs "Petty Pilferers" (there Are in mind themselves beggars), and to him lead all strings. Beggars and thieves working in tandem and shelter each other, beggars supply information to thieves. This is almost the same thing that we can see in Gothic 2. In Horinis, the thieves ' Guild has informants everywhere, too.
    I still think you confuse it. The beggars have to do with the thieves, in parts. But not everyone and in general. Thats everything I wanted to say. I know the quests. You do not need to replicate them in every detail or at least you could use the Spoiler Tag for this, if someone here wants to play that later in one or the other Sequel that is in development now.^^
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