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    Bug-Me discussions #5

    User chatter, comments, speculations and other stuff.

    This thread contains whatever was moved away from the special "Bug Me" thread.

    The "Bug Me" thread is special and exclusively reserved for questions to PB. All other posts are either deleted or moved here.


    Here are the previous threads:
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    i believe that minimap tell us the game world will be full of small paths between cliffs and mountains...
    Exactly, that's what we're all afraid of. No way near Risen 1, where almost all surface was reachable (sometimes only with the help of a levitation spell) and you could easily travel through the trees with no invisible barriers, but maybe Harry could tell us more about this.
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    Did they say anything about fast travel? Did they mention any ships? islands?
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    Did they say anything about fast travel? Did they mention any ships? islands?
    There will be islands and at least short range teleportation. And yes, they hinted at ships, but nothing more than hints afaik.
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    Exactly, that's what we're all afraid of. No way near Risen 1, where almost all surface was reachable (sometimes only with the help of a levitation spell) and you could easily travel through the trees with no invisible barriers, but maybe Harry could tell us more about this.
    The level department and the story department didn't build the level/story with the minimap in mind. You`ll have a lot to explore. And remember - there will be the possibilty to swim so one barrier which was there before is already gone.
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    Hey, Harry, glad to hear that. Can you tell us though why free climbing didn't make a comeback in R3? Also, what can you tell us about invisible walls?
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    Hey, Harry, glad to hear that. Can you tell us though why free climbing didn't make a comeback in R3? Also, what can you tell us about invisible walls?
    Good morning! Hmm, I can`t go into detail but if I compare R2 with R3 you were only able to reach the points which were climbable ... but as I said in the german forum. Having no possibility to climb up a spot doesn`t mean you are unable to reach it. So just keep that in mind .

    At some points we`ll have invisible walls like every video game .
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    I loved how in Risen you first had to use these old, badly drawn maps to get around.
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    Good morning! Hmm, I can`t go into detail but if I compare R2 with R3 you were only able to reach the points which were climbable ... but as I said in the german forum. Having no possibility to climb up a spot doesn`t mean you are unable to reach it. So just keep that in mind .
    Uuuh, I smell a levitation spell. ;D But still, it would have been better if instead of scripting place where it was scripted that you can climb, you would have implemented free climbing and scripted the unclimbable ones, like in the Gothic series.
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    At some points we`ll have invisible walls like every video game .
    That's the point, we do not expect from you a game like every video game



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    I loved how in Risen you first had to use these old, badly drawn maps to get around.
    Ditto.
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    That's the point, we do not expect from you a game like every video game

    Ditto.
    Errm u do know that creating an infinite level would cost billions ;D
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    At some points we`ll have invisible walls like every video game .
    Hah, clearly the people of Essen haven't heard about clearly visible magical walls.

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    Hah, clearly the people of Essen haven't heard about clearly visible magical walls.

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    A magical barrier wouldn't solve any problem ^^
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    Errm u do know that creating an infinite level would cost billions ;D
    Nope: Mountains, sea monsters, barriers, walls too high to be climbed. You already used them. Just stop putting invisible walls in your games. Best example of a fuck-up is the beginning of Risen 2, where you stand with the commander on top of the fortress and you can't jump. Just let me break my neck if I want to.
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    Nope: Mountains, sea monsters, barriers, walls too high to be climbed. You already used them. Just stop putting invisible walls in your games. Best example of a fuck-up is the beginning of Risen 2, where you stand with the commander on top of the fortress and you can't jump. Just let me break my neck if I want to.
    "NEW PLAYERS" would not like that! just put some invisible walls, tube level design and you can always nail it with fast travel.
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    Well, I guess PB will always sell games because they are PB and have a fan base. But they won't sell as much as they could by just making games like they used to. I am really starting to think that the first 2 Gothic games were accidental pieces of genius and not some remarkable talent. But then again Risen 1 was pretty good, it just suffered from utter laziness when it came to lore.

    @ foobar: what's up with the PB sign next to this thread's name? It seems to appear only when Michael posts in a thread, but not when Harry does it. I smell a bug.
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    I smell a bug.
    That bug is called “human factor”. The PB icon does not appear automatically because we have some magic script to do the work. I have to set it myself. Manually. Every time. And yes, sometimes I forget to set it for whatever reason. But not in this case. When I last looked into this thread, there was no PB post. Now there is, so I’ll add the icon. I cannot monitor the forum 24/7, so there will always be a delay between a PB post and the icon appearing.
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    That bug is called “human factor”. The PB icon does not appear automatically because we have some magic script to do the work. I have to set it myself. Manually. Every time. And yes, sometimes I forget to set it for whatever reason. But not in this case. When I last looked into this thread, there was no PB post. Now there is, so I’ll add the icon. I cannot monitor the forum 24/7, so there will always be a delay between a PB post and the icon appearing.
    Oh, my bad then. I thought it was a script.

    Speaking of icons, I observe the lack of a DS one in recent threads. I think we should propose someone from the forum to DS to act as an international CM. Heck I'll do the job for free, it's just painful to see the incompetence. Why don't they just give Andre the job? He's already active on the DS and WoR forums. Just send him the FB password.
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    Speaking of icons, I observe the lack of a DS one in recent threads.
    Thread icons are like Highlander. There can be only one. Since PB already posted in all recent threads and we decided long ago that in case of conflict, developer trumps publisher, you would not see them anyway.

    I think we should propose someone from the forum to DS to act as an international CM.
    There already is an international CM. His name is Maurice Tan and his username in our foum is Professor Pew. Granted, we did not see him again after his introduction almost two years ago. So maybe they changed him again (CM at DS seems to be a revolving door position). But for all I know, he should still be the international CM.
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    Well, it's not like he forgot anything important, just the community management part... It seems like a proud German tradition tho, JW had the same habit.
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