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ECB: €conomia Game
Here:
http://www.ecb.int/ecb/educational/e.../index.en.html
Try to "win" at this game... it's pretty damn hard if you ask me.. only got one golden star for now.
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It's called libertarianism, assbutt.
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Zitat von Maladiq
It's called libertarianism, assbutt.
Libertarians want to minimize the role of the "State"
While I just want it gone!
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Zitat von Radical Liberal
Libertarians want to minimize the role of the "State"
While I just want it gone!
You uncultured idiot. Read some political theory, would you?
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Zitat von Nisarg
Assbutt?
An angel once said that.
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Zitat von Radical Liberal
Libertarians want to minimize the role of the "State"
While I just want it gone!
You call yourself "Radical Liberal" and have an anarchy avatar. That's a triple oxymoron if I've ever seen one. What are you exactly?
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Zitat von Alwin
You call yourself "Radical Liberal" and have an anarchy avatar. That's a triple oxymoron if I've ever seen one. What are you exactly?
The difference between liberals and libertarians is that only radical libertarians want the state gone.
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Zitat von Alwin
You call yourself "Radical Liberal" and have an anarchy avatar. That's a triple oxymoron if I've ever seen one. What are you exactly?
Errm that is no oxymoron. If he was a conservative and had an anarchy avatar then yes. Radical conservative would also be an oxymoron.
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Geändert von Radical Liberal (28.04.2013 um 14:16 Uhr)
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Zitat von Radical Liberal
There are after all different kinds of anarchists: anarcho-communists, anarcho-syndicalists etc.
Funniest lot is the anarcho-capitalists. There's a contradiction if I ever saw one.
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Zitat von MikeLitoris
Errm that is no oxymoron. If he was a conservative and had an anarchy avatar then yes. Radical conservative would also be an oxymoron.
Liberalism isn't radical, though. It is perfectly compatible with the status quo. Libertarianism is more radical, but it's not the same thing at all, and its idea of the role of the state in society is different from that of any anarchist thought, whether anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-communist. Of course, you can use the words incorrectly, in a more "everyday" sense, but I'm not really a fan of that practice.
Zitat von Radical Liberal
Duh
PS: I am an Anarchist (on the liberal side) but WoG didn't let me write Anarcho or Anarchist or anything else like that as a Nick Name (can't imagine why... )
There are after all different kinds of anarchists: anarcho-communists, anarcho-syndicalists etc.
That is more understandable, although I still don't understand what "anarchist (on the liberal side)" means. Unfortunately, the "anarcho-" prefix has been abused quite hard during its history. I've seen the terms "anarcho-monarchist" and "anarcho-fascist" used seriously, without any hint of parody.
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Zitat von Alwin
Liberalism isn't radical, though. It is perfectly compatible with the status quo. Libertarianism is more radical, but it's not the same thing at all, and its idea of the role of the state in society is different from that of any anarchist thought, whether anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-communist. Of course, you can use the words incorrectly, in a more "everyday" sense, but I'm not really a fan of that practice.
That is more understandable, although I still don't understand what "anarchist (on the liberal side)" means. Unfortunately, the "anarcho-" prefix has been abused quite hard during its history. I've seen the terms "anarcho-monarchist" and "anarcho-fascist" used seriously, without any hint of parody.
Well my friend, anarcho-communists are against the free market and money and are for Public\Collective Property, while an anarcho-liberal is for Free Trade, Private Property and Money.
Free Trade and Laissez-Faire
Geändert von Radical Liberal (28.04.2013 um 17:16 Uhr)
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Zitat von TudoracheForever
Funniest lot is the anarcho-capitalists. There's a contradiction if I ever saw one.
Not exactly. Both anarchism and capitalism are right wing doctrines. Capitalism can function in both the libertarian and authoritarian specters of policies.
On the other hand, anarcho-communism is pretty funny. Communism is the pinnacle of authoritarian leftism, while anarchism is the extreme libertarian right.
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Zitat von Maladiq
Both anarchism and capitalism are right wing doctrines.
Bullshit #1,
Zitat von Maladiq
Communism is the pinnacle of authoritarian leftism,
Bullshit #2,
Zitat von Maladiq
while anarchism is the extreme libertarian right.
Bullshit #3.
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Zitat von Alwin
Bullshit #1,
Bullshit #2,
Bullshit #3.
Congratulations, you learned a new word. But in itself, it is not a rebuttal.
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Zitat von Maladiq
Congratulations, you learned a new word. But in itself, it is not a rebuttal.
What rebuttal do you need? You got the definitions wrong. If you said 2+2 equals 7, would I need to "rebutt" it if I didn't want to accept it as correct?
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Didn't Maladiq glorify Soviet Romania and it's "efficient" debt removal policies?? Of which many people suffered...
It's obvious that you have read some stuff about the subject Maladiq but you've read it only superficially.
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Zitat von Alwin
What rebuttal do you need? You got the definitions wrong. If you said 2+2 equals 7, would I need to "rebutt" it if I didn't want to accept it as correct?
At least read wikipedia, kiddo. We'll let the real books till you grow up.
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Zitat von Radical Liberal
Didn't Maladiq glorify Soviet Romania and it's "efficient" debt removal policies?? Of which many people suffered...
It's obvious that you have read some stuff about the subject Maladiq but you've read it only superficially.
The policies were efficient. At the revolution, Romania had 0 external debt. The suffering was not caused by the anti-dept policies, but by the money-stockpiling policies (since ceausescu wanted to compete with the World Bank in lending money to other countries). Had he stopped at 0 debt, the system would have been pretty sweet.
Now go make a fireball.
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