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Zitat von Nero Leto
what law is that then? ive never heared of that before
surely, as a student, you could apply to a german university and thus avoid any sorts of work-restrictions?
Last time I checked(december 2012), when it comes to international students one cannot work more than 80 hours through his entire course of studying. I can't afford not to work if I went abroad, my parents aren't rich enough to provide that much.
Hopefully, as I also read, this law will be discarded soon.
I've also talked to two people who live in Germany regarding that restriction. They confirmed it. Who knows, I might be wrong... but I've read it on several websites and heard it from people who live there so I don't know.
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Zitat von LastKnownMeal
So I want to start learning German
What's your native tongue?
Have you tried playing Piranha Bytes Gothic games in German, especially G1 and G2 + NotR? It's certainly fun and that should help matters a lot.^^ On second thought, maybe not. With all that cursing you might pick up all the wrong pieces.
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Zitat von Rashnu
What's your native tongue?
Have you tried playing Piranha Bytes Gothic games in German, especially G1 and G2 + NotR? It's certainly fun and that should help matters a lot.^^ On second thought, maybe not. With all that cursing you might pick up all the wrong pieces.
I played them in German. Felt absolutely wrong. Just... like I was playing something masquerading as something else. Didn't much enjoy it.
But I did very much enjoy Aus dem Leben eines Diebes, or whatever it was called.
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Zitat von Rashnu
Have you tried playing Piranha Bytes Gothic games in German, especially G1 and G2 + NotR? It's certainly fun and that should help matters a lot.^^ On second thought, maybe not. With all that cursing you might pick up all the wrong pieces.
Is there anyway I could get German audio with an English copy of the game?
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Zitat von TudoracheForever
I played them in German. Felt absolutely wrong. Just... like I was playing something masquerading as something else. Didn't much enjoy it.
It felt wrong? How could that be?
I can tell from experience G1 and G2 & NotR enjoy an excellent German voice recording. The voice actors are top notch and deliver their lines superbly. On the other hand the English sound recording is 2nd best at most.
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Zitat von Rashnu
I can tell from experience
Which is personal and not universally the same. But I'm sure you know that, and can therefore understand what I mean by "it felt wrong"
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Zitat von TudoracheForever
Which is personal and not universally the same. But I'm sure you know that, and can therefore understand what I mean by "it felt wrong"
Your assessment might be personally. The public verdict is crystal clear. The early Gothic games by Piranha Bytes came with an extraordinary good German voice acting. The English versions are of poor quality compared to the original. BTW, in early 2001 it was quite unusual to have full voice recordings for every dialogue in the game. The US publisher back then didn't put much effort in the voice over and it shows.
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Zitat von Rashnu
The public verdict is crystal clear.
>assuming public verdicts are not just personal verdicts
Uh? Argumentum ad populum?
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what made gothic such a great game to me was the atmosphere it projected through the fantastic voice recordings. my god, i never played a game as good as gothic since then.
anyways, we have drifted off quite a bit. learning german it was?
i can just repeat what i said. go abroad, either to study, or to live with with a family, or both.
what is also very helpful is having a girlfriend (of course, for our female memebers - having a boyfriend or whatever your preference may be) of the given country - though one can not entirely rely on this method
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Zitat von Rashnu
What's your native tongue?
Have you tried playing Piranha Bytes Gothic games in German, especially G1 and G2 + NotR? It's certainly fun and that should help matters a lot.^^ On second thought, maybe not. With all that cursing you might pick up all the wrong pieces.
My native is Bosnian language and yes that is a good way becuase I did learn english from games and movies. And I also hired a teacher to help me out a little bit. Gut so weit! (I hope that I said this good)
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Zitat von LastKnownMeal
My native is Bosnian language and yes that is a good way becuase I did learn english from games and movies.
Well, that should make it a bit easier for you compared to neighbours who might only speak Croatian or Serbian. Wikipedia tells us:
The Bosnian language also contains a number of Germanisms not often heard in Croatian or Serbian that have been in use since the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Movies and your preferred TV series might also be a good start for learning a foreign language. If you love TV series like Star Trek e.g. then you should have no trouble getting a dubbed version in German. If you know the series plot already you could pick up the new language by listening to your favourite pasttime. Win-win.^^ Deutsche Welle may be available in your country too. Worth a try.
Geändert von Rashnu (26.02.2013 um 23:56 Uhr)
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Movies and your preferred TV series might also be a good start for learning a foreign language. If you love TV series like Star Trek e.g. than you should have no trouble getting a dubbed version in German. If you know the series plot already you could pick up the new language by listening to your favourite pasttime. Win-win.^^ Deutsche Welle may be available in your country too. Worth a try.
Yep there is Deutsche Welle in my country, how did you know? Where are you from anyway?
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I need to force myself to learn for testDAF.
Anyway the best way to learn German is to read Kant's 'Kritik der reinen Vernunft' or Hegel's 'Wissenschaft der Logik'. In other words, learning by pain.
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Zitat von Powaz
I need to force myself to learn for testDAF.
Anyway the best way to learn German is to read Kant's 'Kritik der reinen Vernunft' or Hegel's 'Wissenschaft der Logik'. In other words, learning by pain.
the first book i read when learning french was 'le petit prince'.. just as challenging
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Zitat von Powaz
I need to force myself to learn for testDAF.
Anyway the best way to learn German is to read Kant's 'Kritik der reinen Vernunft' or Hegel's 'Wissenschaft der Logik'. In other words, learning by pain.
Why should it be a pain? Learning a language should be exciting no matter the text studied. Whether it's boring or convoluted is beside the point, the sheer fact that it's in another language and you can actually understand its meaning is exhilarating regardless of its content.
Matthew Arnold's views on criticism are usually boring as shit, but his texts are still fun to read... in a twisted way.
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I'd like to learn some German down the line... they seem like they're a bunch of hard asses but I don't know... it just feels like the right step forward, beyond basic English (Engrish). I'm not really into the whole language thing, I'd just like to understand people outside my little box when they talk. Or maybe Dutch. Call me superficial and prejudiced, but that seems like a good country for me to call home.
Just thinking aloud.
Geändert von Bastardo (09.03.2013 um 23:27 Uhr)
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Zitat von Bastardo
I'd like to learn some German down the line... they seem like they're a bunch of hard asses but I don't know... it just feels like the right step forward, beyond basic English (Engrish). I'm not really into the whole language thing, I'd just like to understand people outside my little box when they talk. Or maybe Dutch. Call me superficial and prejudiced, but that seems like a good country for me to call home.
Just thinking aloud.
I always found Belgium a very interesting country when it comes to languages. The country is such a melting pot of languages, which I think is wonderful. I believe people there learn Flamisch, English and French at school, and some (depending on where you live in Belgium) learn Dutch and German aswell. Fantastic.
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