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Apprentice
gothic 1 and 2 spellcaster
what do you think about being a mage, or a novice?
you're supposed to battle with magic but you still hit wolves 'n shit with a stick, if you anyway use magic, it won't do at least medium damage, consume your entire mana by two/three shots, so i think is useless to play as a mage
the best thing of being a mage is that you can have a rune with summon many skeletons
doing so you can destroy everything in the game with 2/3 spawns, even so you can drink while they fight and spawn other 2/3 waves of skeletons, that's the best thing in the game
but even so you get that powers at the finish of the game, so it pretty sucks to play as a mage the whole game
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Zitat von sergykid
consume your entire mana by two/three shots, so i think is useless to play as a mage
ever tried to put more lp in your mana
and you should note that gothic I and II mages are very different
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Apprentice
if i use all of my learning points to increase mana pool i will know nothing, i will hit with the sword like an old lady, have the strength of a meatbug, and doing damage with spells as a shoe
even so it costs much LP to increase mana and you just gain another 2/3 shots to deal damage
still not enough to kill a beast and you need maaaaaaaany mana potions or herbs, which is very expensive and lot of work
still, i don`t think is very funny to play a mage, only when game is about to finish and you're the most powerfull, but don't have time to do the fun
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One of my favourite reasons why mages kick asses is because everyone sucks up to them:
Fenia:
˝Have a safe trip honorable magician!˝
or Hakon:
˝It is an honor to me that a representative of our holy church should show an interest in my wares.˝
or even the paladins:
Non-mage conversation
NH: ˝Relax!˝
Keroloth: ˝Beat it!˝
Mage conversation
NH: ˝Relax!˝
Keroloth: ˝Yes master, I'll try.˝
God, I love being a mage .
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You can make mana potions, but I agree that mage is pretty boring in G2, and I find using range weapons rather boring as well, you either can kill enemy before he can reach you, you hit, and run, or you die (or am I missing something?), you can also get on a ledge but that looses novelty pretty fast imo.
In G1 you get enough LP to be good at magic, and melee.
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Apprentice
using spells often you just don't hit the enemy at all, and also you deal very low damage, so he will reach you and kill you
even more, you lose your mana after some shots so still dead, being a mage sux
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I think the mage class is pretty fun in G2. It's harder to start with but that doesn't last too long. If you play your cards right, you quickly become equal to a warrior and by the end you're way overpowered. The class is further improved by planning fights ahead of time instead of barging in out of nowhere with a battleaxe, like most warriors would do.
Geändert von Bastardo (08.11.2012 um 18:42 Uhr)
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@ Phillip of the Fire Clan:
Actually everything is simple - believers must to honor the priests of god. You can see what was written in a "Words of the gods" book from the first part of Gothic:
Hear the words of the gods, for it is their will that you shall hear them. Heed the teachings of the gods, for it is their will that you shall heed them. Honor the priests of the gods, for they are the chosen ones.
The word of Innos:
And if it shall happen that you do not understand, do not despair at the words of the priests, for they are just and wise. For I am the rising sun, the light, and the life. And all that is contrary to the sun is contrary to me, and shall be banished to the shadows forever more.
The word of Adanos:
Work and live, for the day was created so that man may work. Seek learning and knowledge so that you may pass it on, for it is for that purpose that you were created. But whosoever shall be listless and idle, he shall be banished to the shadows forever more.
The word of Beliar:
But whosoever shall do wrong and go against the will of the gods, him I will punish. I will plague his body with pain, suffering and death, but his spirit shall join me in the shadows forever more.
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Just like Bastardo said.
It's hard in the begining, but as soon as you reach Circle 3 you can learn Summon Skeleton and Ice Block and everything becomes easy, then you just use IB, summon a couple of skeletons and... smoke swampweed while they fight .
I'm playing G1 ATM on hardcore as a mage (well, I will be one soon) and if I manage I'll play NotR as a hardcore mage. Playing hardcore (generally, but most of all for mages IMO) greatly increases the fun.
@ Dimus: Yes, I remember the books, it was very fun reading them.
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Yes for a new player ,mage characters suck ,but if you know the game a bit ,you can survive.There are several rings/amulets which give you additional mana (just gotta know where to find them) and not to mention the dark mushrooms. I played as a mage on hardcore mode and didn`t die untill the ice dragon . You gotta solve quests and kill beats to gain as much level as you can to level up mana and magic circles.
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Zitat von warstrike
Yes for a new player ,mage characters suck ,but if you know the game a bit ,you can survive.There are several rings/amulets which give you additional mana (just gotta know where to find them) and not to mention the dark mushrooms. I played as a mage on hardcore mode and didn`t die untill the ice dragon . You gotta solve quests and kill beats to gain as much level as you can to level up mana and magic circles.
not to mention the stone tablets.. but are we taking notr here?
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Apprentice
yes you're good when ice block and summon skeleton becomes available runes
but until circle 3 you need very many LP and a lot of mana to summon that and do that, and to manage that is pretty hard
also you need a lot of money to buy mana potions, a lot of LP to learn alchemy to make them by yourself, or investing on a profession to get more money
but doing so you won't have enough LP for mana, it's hard i think
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Zitat von sergykid
yes you're good when ice block and summon skeleton becomes available runes
but until circle 3 you need very many LP and a lot of mana to summon that and do that, and to manage that is pretty hard
also you need a lot of money to buy mana potions, a lot of LP to learn alchemy to make them by yourself, or investing on a profession to get more money
but doing so you won't have enough LP for mana, it's hard i think
well then ,you can always play an easy game if you find Gothic 2 so difficult :P
@KGS :I didn`t mention stone tablets because i didn`t know if we`re talking about vanilla or notr . Not to mention that in notr you don`t have to donate 1000 gold coins ,just gotta bring that statue of innos and the sheep and you`re in
Geändert von warstrike (09.11.2012 um 08:18 Uhr)
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wow! if i ever enjoyed of being a mage, it would be gothic 1. in gothic 2 the spells revamped. and in gothic 3 it's very different...
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What are you talking about, the mage is the most easy, overpowered class in the game. You can't oneshot the entire horde of orcs with any other class... you just cast rain of fire two times and everything falls dead. DEAD!
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Rookie
Save your hard-earned LP and dont learn mana skill until you become a mage (5lp then is equally to 5 mana). Get yourself a fireball/fear rune and you wont have trouble with killing and scaring everything in your site early in game, and in later chapters you will get some pretty sick spells.
If you have trouble with lack of cash i recommend you to get a healing rune, that rune is worth more then 1000 healing potions, then you only need to buy/learn to make mana potions. Mage is very interesting, you just need to be bit more creative.
Hope this helps
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Apprentice
yes mage is overpowered later in game, but until then, hard work and boring, too save games before any beast because are many chances to die at it
even later in game you still need a damn big lot of mana potions
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Zitat von sergykid
yes mage is overpowered later in game, but until then, hard work and boring, too save games before any beast because are many chances to die at it
even later in game you still need a damn big lot of mana potions
dunno mate ,you`re the only one complaining around here
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i really suck at playing mage
but now i want to play a pure mage in g2 notr
yes i will do that
i think of getting a bunch of scrolls or something and just being pure pure mage
maybe with heights of power, i never played that shit
yes
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Mages? did anyone mention ice block/summon whatever you want combo? Oh wait, there's fear, did I hear well? bring down FIRE LIZARDS with just 50 mana? Oh boy, fireball + equip/(disequip?)... Why am I without inspiration to tell you more?
wave of death, rain of fire, ice wave, BELIAR's HENCHMEN FUK YO MAMMA
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