[hashisin]

I have 6GB RAM AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ processor Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT video card and gothic on the best graphics is still lagging...What's the problem now?And my main question:What are the BEST graphics I can use WITHOUT lagging?

[Nisarg]

Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT

I can run Gothic and Gothic 2 at max settings, and you can probably do so too.

But Gothic 3, I can run Gothic 3 only at the minimum settings with my GeForce 8600GT (256 MB). So you really shouldn't try running it at max settings.

[hashisin]

Of course,I can run gothic 1,2 at max settings,I meant 3.So it's my video card... I thought its the processor anyway,thanks.But I still want to know what are the best settings I can use without lagging....Or there are any existing 'programs' that can help to improve my gaming graphics?

[andorian22]

hee hee...G3 and lag, ge used to it

With that much memory try and running on a ram disk

[hashisin]

Try and running on a RAM disk?how?

[Larisa]

First thing: there's lag/low framerate. A better video card could improve that.
Second thing: there's stuttering. It's because of the game's engine, the game makes micro-pauses (like for half a second or maybe more) when it loads data from disk. It can happen very often (like every 5 seconds). Which is pretty annoying.

Things that help:
-try medium graphic settings in the game's menu (the low setting doesn't necessarily improve performace).
-defragment your harddisk
-try the latest patch, in case you don't have it already

A ram-disk (that creates a virtual disk in RAM, then copy the game there every time you want to play. The advantage would be that RAM is much faster than the normal hard disk)... don't know, with 8GB of RAM you could've tried, the game needs at least 3GB of space. With your 6GB... you'll be just in the limit.

Also, G3 uses a single core, so a processor with more cores but lower GHz doesn't help much.

[hashisin]

But how to copy there?sry I am so noobish .BTW,I use windows 7 enterprise,should I use XP or other or it's not a problem?

[Larisa]

With 6GB of ram, you should use a x64 Windows.

For software to create a ramdisk, look at this for example: Freeware up to 4GB, so I guess it should work for you:
http://memory.dataram.com/products-a...ftware/ramdisk

After that, I think it will make another disk that you can see in My Computer.
How to copy... find the game's folder, CTRL+C, go to the ramdisk, CTRL+V.

[C-Hawk]

Would I be able to do the same?
I have Win7 64bit
And 4096MB Ram.

And an Ati 5770 vid-card.
Is my vid-card better than?
1. Nisarg's
2. hashisin's

[hashisin]

4 GB RAM is not enough to do the same...3,11 GB for the newest 1.74 Gothic 800MB to windows=4 GB!!!and what for gothic?gothic need at least 1,5GB
Also the RAM trick didnt helped for me :S...I dont know your ATI...512 MB or 1GB?I'd say that it can be 512MB or 1GB both is better than mine and the other guy's...Also I found out that the problem is my video card...I think I am able to run gothic 3 at full graphics when I have a 1GB video card.....until,I stay at medium...Anyway,Good Luck(BTW my current vid card is 512MB atm.....so.....)Good Luck

[C-Hawk]

This is what 'speccy' says:

Name BenQ G2220HD on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Current Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
Work Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
State enabled, primary, output devices support
Monitor Width 1920
Monitor Height 1080
Monitor BPP 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Frequency 60 Hz
Device \\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0

ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
GPU Juniper
Device ID 1002-68B8
Subvendor ASUStek Computer Inc (1043)
Current Performance Level Level 1
Current GPU Clock 156 MHz
Current Memory Clock 300 MHz
Voltage 0.950 V
Technology 41 nm
Die Size 40 nm²
Release Date Oct 13, 2009
DirectX Support 11.0
OpenGL Support 5.0
Bios Core Clock 850.00
Bios Mem Clock 1200.00
Temperature 40 °C
Core Voltage 0.950 V
BIOS Version 113-AC37500-104
ROPs 16
Shaders 800 unified
Memory Type HyperMemory
Pixel Fillrate 2.5 GPixels/s
Texture Fillrate 0.0 GTexels/s

Count of performance levels : 1
Level 0
GPU Clock 849 MHz
Memory Clock 1200 MHz

This doesn't say which version I have '5700 series'
Or how much Mb it has.

Dxdiag does the same.

What should I use, as I obviously don't know what I have.

[Larisa]

What should I use, as I obviously don't know what I have.

There are many programs that diagnose your hardware. In your case, try GPU-Z?

[C-Hawk]

It worked: I have a 1024MB vid-card. pretty good then But still Gothic 3 laggs as hell.
I think the lag won't decrease after installing CSP's mod, would it?

But it still isn't possible to put Gothic 3 on my RAM?

[Larisa]

But it still isn't possible to put Gothic 3 on my RAM?

Like hashisin said, no.

[firefly1981]

sometimes i wonder will gothic 3 still lags regardless of our computer configuration, it kinda diminished any thoughts of upgrading pc hardware.

[glumetzul]

I get the feeling that back in 2006 when G3 was launched there was no commercial computer that could run the game smooth with max settings. Right now I'm playing it on a pretty strong PC myself (way better than the "recommended settings") but I still get a low fps now and then while with Risen (launced a few years later) everything works smooth. And as I remember, the Forsaken Fans expansion runs even worse.

[Lavinian]

Gothic 3 uses 2 cores, I´m tested it
For Geforce 8500 GT use these settings: Medium, Cache Optimal, Shader Model 3.0, Shadows OFF, AntiAliasing OFF

[Larisa]

Gothic 3 uses 2 cores, I´m tested it

Afaik, multi-threading was removed in one of the community patches.

[Lavinian]

There is still difference beetwen 1 and multiple cores, but is not big. For Gothic 3, fastest CPU frequency is reccomended.

[TudoracheMG]

The Enhanced Edition of Forsaken Gods runs much smoother than Gothic 3