[Damianut]

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The place to exchange knowledge and tools among Gothic communities.

In according to the discussion in thread about Dark Age announcement, I propose to exchange here:

• informations about tools for Gothic which can make modding in particular faster and more convienient
• solutions for common and rare obstacles during modding

Listed above ideas to exchange is proposition only and not limited to that. As you can see, we discuss a tools also in Alpha and Beta versions.

As this discussion from above linked thread showed, modders from communities from various countries even don't know, that problems they face are already solved.

In next post I will present certain tool already known in Poland, that speed up implementing dialogues written by scenario writers.

[Kirides]

Take a look at https://gothic-modding-community.github.io/gmc/

A few of us modders contributed there.

And over here you can see a few libraries/tools that were documented/linked: https://gothic-modding-community.git.../zengin/tools/

[Damianut]

Scripts Creator

The tool which saves time with dialogues implementing and move part of work from scripters to scenario writers.

This tool helps team which creates Golden Gate II: Heart of the Goddess modification, and was published 13 September 2023. Created by one of member of mentioned above team.

Guide PL

Guide EN

I short, installation is possible by Docker. You can run tool by Docker Desktop or by command line (PowerShell). The program is opened in a default browser.

As you can see on the video from linked post from Facebook (logging in not needed), you can paste the dialogue in following format to the browser (text from below image is from "GUIDE EN"):

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add quest code name (here "BeliarServant") and click "Convert" to achieve following code as the output:

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
////////////////  DiegoOW Hallo
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
INSTANCE DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo (C_INFO)
{
    npc             =     DiegoOW;
    nr             =     2;
    condition     =     DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_Condition;
    information     =     DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_Info;
    important     =     FALSE;
    permanent     =     FALSE;
    description     =     "(to do)";
};
func int DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_Condition ()
{
    return TRUE;     
};
func void DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_Info ()
{
    AI_Output (self, other, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_12_01"); //Hey, I thought you were dead.
    AI_Output (other, self, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_15_02"); //Yes ... so I was.
    AI_Output (other, self, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_15_03"); //But now I'm back, and looking for proof of the arrival of the dragons.
    AI_Output (self, other, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_12_04"); //Who are you doing that for?

    Info_ClearChoices(Dia_DiegoOW_Hallo);
    Info_AddChoice(Dia_DiegoOW_Hallo,"Beliar.",Dia_DiegoOW_Hallo_1);
    Info_AddChoice(Dia_DiegoOW_Hallo,"Xardas",Dia_DiegoOW_Hallo_2);

};
FUNC VOID DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_1 ()
{    Info_ClearChoices(Dia_DiegoOW_Hallo);
    AI_Output (other, self, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_15_05"); //Beliar.
    AI_Output (self, other, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_12_06"); //Nice. It is proper decision!

    START_MISSION(TOPIC_TOPIC_Test, "I should to serve Beliar.");

};
FUNC VOID DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_2 ()
{    Info_ClearChoices(Dia_DiegoOW_Hallo);
    AI_Output (other, self, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_15_07"); //Xardas.
    AI_Output (self, other, "DIA_DiegoOW_Hallo_12_08"); //Xardas the necromancer?
};

The code of program is possible to browse by Docker. It is a one pitfall with Scripts Creator, that in names of all NPC's speeches is used "12" as voice. Where voices always are vary.

[Milky-Way]

A somewhat similar program that has been incredibly useful for developing LoA is DiaDepp:
https://forum.worldofplayers.de/foru...g-Tool-DiaDepp

[Damianut]

"Effects Editor for Gothic 2"
(working name, the tool during development, not released)


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A tool written by Risepolak (Xardas17) in C# and currently allowing without running Gothic:

1) NPC
Preview of head, body and armour textures.

2) Items
Creating, editing, saving (into ".d" file), compiling (into ".ZEN" file), removing and preview (also graphically). Creating ".3DS" and ".TEX" files for a runes.


Creating, editing, saving (into ".d" file), compiling (into ".ZEN" file), removing and preview (also graphically):
3) PFX (Particle FX)
4) spells and other visuals effects (VFX)
5) lights
6) flares (lensflare)

7) Sounds
Creating, editing, saving, compiling, removing and playing sounds.

8) Anims
Creating, editing, saving (into ".MDS" and ".ASC") and removing MDS and ASC.

As you can see, tool looks like pilot's cockpit. Requires to learn properties of various prototypes.

Screenshots

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[ThomasBausB]

Without a suitable download link, that's not much.
You should already have it before you present the tool
Could also just be fake.

[Risepolak]

Without a suitable download link, that's not much.
You should already have it before you present the tool
Could also just be fake.

Im not a fake bro i still make it! but if somebody needs my help i was using program to generate scripts or files

[Feuerbarde]

Without a suitable download link, that's not much.
You should already have it before you present the tool
Could also just be fake.

You come to a new “tavern” and first question whether the guests there have “water” instead of “wine” in their glasses?

No seriously, of course when something is in development you NEVER know whether it will actually be finished. But it's good to talk about it, you can make suggestions - especially if you can bring in problems from your own practice. It can happen that two developers who are working on something similar find each other. This allows a developer to find help from other developers.

Really missed opportunities are the ones you don't even try.

Im not a fake bro i still make it! but if somebody needs my help i was using program to generate scripts or files

Welcome Risepolak!

If the tool can be tested I would be very interested in it, I'm currently faced with the problem of having to test heads and armor in particular - ideally WITHOUT having to constantly go into the game.

I'm currently helping out here: [Release] Gothic II - UHD Textures

I like the project and I'm afraid that it will quickly become too much for a beginner, especially if you are quite inexperienced in the 2D area. It's more fun with a little support and with two people, you can motivate each other. I almost always decide how and where to use my currently very limited time based on such considerations.


Generally:

I've been working with Damianut for a long time and think extremely highly of him. He has my full trust, he has earned that. What does developed mean? No, he didn't have to put in any extra effort for it, he's just a really great person, not only when it comes to Gothic topics - but also as a human being.

- He is very careful, very orderly in the way he works.
- Very helpful and reliable/trustworthy.

I can only say good things about him and would be happy if you gave him a little trust. Some other creators from the modification sector have already gotten to know him a little.

Things from the smaller communities often remain undiscovered for an unnecessarily long time, and they are also too spread out on different platforms. I see a great opportunity in us all working more together and exchanging ideas. This also creates opportunities to recruit one or two people with special skills to join your team, whether it's a German who works in a foreign team - or whether a foreign artist becomes part of a German team. I think that's a good thing, also in view of the new experiences that these people generate with each other.

Yesterday, in another topic, It would be great if you (Damianut) would post it here again so that we have a topic here where we can find such information in bulk and discuss it.

Then I hope that one or two things will come out of this in the future from which we can benefit together. What has the Gothic scene achieved in the last few years? Would we have even dared to dream about it years ago?

I'm very proud that some people who don't come from Germany seem to feel very comfortable here in my beloved WoG. I'm really proud of that!

[Risepolak]

I was here once between 2007/2012. I even added a few things to the resources on WoG.It's nice to come back here now, especially since I'm welcome here, thank you!I am creating the program because I acquired some knowledge a long time ago and because I have crazy ideas, I would like to share them with foreign creators.I've known Damianoo since 2007 when I created the GothicThe Great War mod.In fact, it's thanks to him that I'm here again today.I'm also happy that I can also contribute to some emerging mods.

[Damianut]

Gothic Character Creator
(v. Alpha-0.0.2, early stage development)

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Tool being created on Godot Engine by Serbernus, Polish modder, which will be designed at least for creating own textures of head and body for humans for Gothic I & II.

Baking of faces is now enabled, there is still some problems related to loading assets, adding own/custom ones can break Tool, but testing is always good.

Current version available to download at GitHub.

[Damianut]

zTEXiPy

zTEXiPy is an open source project written in Python that utilizes the Pillow, NumPy, DearPyGui and libsquish libraries to convert Gothic and Gothic 2 (ZenGin) textures to common formats and vice versa.


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Created by Shouη ("Special thanks to" list available here), gives possibility to convert .TEX files to .TGA, .PNG, .WEBP, .DDS files and vice-versa. You can also select directory to convert all files with the same extension.

[neocromicon]

Gothic Character Creator, das Tool hat wirklich unglaublich großes potenzial und selbst jetzt kann man damit soviele Gesichter erstellen, ohne auch nur den hauch einer ahnugn von Grafikbearbeitung zu haben.

[Feuerbarde]

With the "Gothic Character Creator Alpha 0.0.2" I have the problem that important switches are hidden under my taskbar (Windows 11). The tool also makes an interesting impression on me! Does the tool work internally with vectors? Looked a bit like it to me in the previews.


Really interesting tools! Many thanks for introducing it here and of course also to the respective creators. The need for such tools usually arises from practice.


I still have to deal with "zTEXiPy 1.3", "GoMan" doesn't convert it to .tex really well or cleanly. Above all, "GoMan" does not do mass processing in this direction either. This tool gives me hope.


Here's something from the "Blackstar Material" (a German modification team that disbanded when the most important 3D artist at the time moved to Piranha Byte). The entire material is around 4 GB of data (unsorted), I'll upload it when I'm back up to speed with my hard drives. Here's some of what someone picked out from the German scene. The material may be used freely. A mention of "Blackstar Studios" would be desirable in the credits.


Download: https://workupload.com/file/FzyddqHzWWW (24.92 MB)

[Damianut]

With the "Gothic Character Creator Alpha 0.0.2" I have the problem that important switches are hidden under my taskbar (Windows 11). The tool also makes an interesting impression on me! Does the tool work internally with vectors? Looked a bit like it to me in the previews.

I already asked about that author (on Discord). Since waiting for a response (and fix in case of switches hidden under your taskbar) you can set auto-hiding of taskbar during work with that.

[Feuerbarde]

Of course I know that I can hide these. I just wanted to point out that this correction would certainly be useful in a timely manner. Otherwise I will continue to test it.


Definitely really great projects. I am very grateful for this topic here.

[Milgo]

You could use the Editing wiki as a place to collect and share your knowledge and tools you found.

[Damianut]

Does the tool work internally with vectors? Looked a bit like it to me in the previews.

The response from Serbernus - the author:

Rather only raster graphics come into play. Asset are made at 2048x. That's why they look good at the available resolutions. The shader mixes everything at this resolution. And the scaling is with Fidelity Super Resolution 2.0 from AMD which is why so much detail is preserved.

He has account on WoG, but he prefers chatting in real-time.

You could use the Editing wiki as a place to collect and share your knowledge and tools you found.

I see all titles of articles on Wiki are in German, but I think it won't problem to publish in English? Anyway somebody could translate that.

Writing about that on the forum is better for discuss, but I can add it also to Wiki.

[Lehona]

I see all titles of articles on Wiki are in German, but I think it won't problem to publish in English? Anyway somebody could translate that.

Writing about that on the forum is better for discuss, but I can add it also to Wiki.

I'm sure it's okay if you just write them in English

I think having them in the Wiki makes it a bit easier to discover them later on - eventually this thread will disappear from the front page.

[Risepolak]

I was looking program for decompile models from gothic to 3ds.

The next part of my program itsadding vobbilder for all models. Then i can think abaut "zVobTree" like Damiano asking me

actualy i finaly find how load many textur into armor ( Next part for this its adding litle editor into armors i caled its "armor part" when its ready i give acess to adding into models parts from other armors like helmet cap boots ETC.)

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[Damianut]

Gothic Editing Wiki

I copied the posts about the above tools to the Weitere Programme section.

• Scripts Creator
• "Effects Editor for Gothic 2"
• Gothic Character Creator
• zTEXiPy