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Zitat von Schatten
Hast du die Installationsanleitung befolgt?
Vielen Dank, Eigentlich war ich mir sicher mich komplett daran gehalten zu haben, aber nun nach dem ich alles nochmal runter und neu drauf gemacht habe geht es einwandfrei.
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Zitat von Blue Force
Thats not my job. I just compared to the first playerkit (by NicoDe) which had no results.
I can fully recommend the one from Nico Bendlin since I used it years ago (back in 2012 when I learn about mods for Gothic series) and I never had a virus from it plus VIrustotal doesn't find anything either. The link is here if someone would want to install it, but I'm guessing most of the people have it anyway: https://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/download_34.htm
Also, thank you MaGoth for this great update!
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What is changed/updated by new PlayerKit-2.8? Have you added 4 GB flag?
Are the virus messages only fake alarms?
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Zitat von Schatten
Could you at least tell us from which source the Playerkit 2.8 is? Have you made it oder someone else?
The VirusTotal scan has now even 14 of 61 results.
The files created during installation of this playerkit even have more alerts.
GothicStarter.exe 19 alerts
GothicStarter_mod.exe 17 alerts
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Einmalposter
For some reason I can not download the current version of the SystemPack from the mirror. I press the download button and it becomes greyed-out but nothing is getting downloaded
*Edit* Disregard my post, I figured it out. Thank you everyone who worked on this, you did a great job!
Geändert von Tiohard (21.03.2017 um 11:36 Uhr)
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Zitat von Blue Force
The files created during installation of this playerkit even have more alerts.
GothicStarter.exe 19 alerts
GothicStarter_mod.exe 17 alerts
I hope that MaGoth will explain what this means, but it's strange that neither Malwarebytes nor Hitman Pro doesn't detect them which are probably the best anti malware programs. Only F-Secure and BitDefender has found a virus which is one of the best antivirus from the list, but why not Avira, AVG or even Kaspersky which is one of the best on the list?
However, I still think it's a false alarm. SystemPack 1.7 should be fine since it has a lower detection than the previous version, but not the player kit.
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Zitat von Marek33
I hope that MaGoth will explain what this means, but it's strange that neither Malwarebytes nor Hitman Pro doesn't detect them which are probably the best anti malware programs. Only F-Secure and BitDefender has found a virus which is one of the best antivirus from the list, but why not Avira, AVG or even Kaspersky which is one of the best on the list?
However, I still think it's a false alarm. SystemPack 1.7 should be fine since it has a lower detection than the previous version, but not the player kit.
I examined the installer, it contains following files:
Code:
VDFS.cfg
│
├───$PLUGINSDIR
│ InstallOptions.dll
│ ioSpecial.ini
│ modern-wizard.bmp
│
└───System
│ GothicGame.ini
│ GothicGame.rtf
│ GothicStarter.exe
│ GothicStarter_mod.exe
│
└───$PLUGINSDIR
LangDLL.dll
The files GothicStarter.exe and GothicStarter_mod.exe were compressed by upx, which is known to cause alarms. I decompressed them and now the detections rate is lower:
GothicStarter.exe --> 4 alerts
GothicStarter_mod.exe --> 7 alerts
So a part of the detections can be explained because the playerkit was packed with upx-compression, but not all.
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Rookie
When I run the game (Gothic1) by GothicStarter_mod mouse doesn't work in game.
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Zitat von Deader89
Vielen Dank, Eigentlich war ich mir sicher mich komplett daran gehalten zu haben, aber nun nach dem ich alles nochmal runter und neu drauf gemacht habe geht es einwandfrei.
Kein Problem.
Zitat von Blue Force
The files created during installation of this playerkit even have more alerts.
GothicStarter.exe 19 alerts
GothicStarter_mod.exe 17 alerts
Wie viele Meldungen haben die originalen Dateien? / How much results have the original files?
Zitat von Marek33
I hope that MaGoth will explain what this means, but it's strange that neither Malwarebytes nor Hitman Pro doesn't detect them which are probably the best anti malware programs. Only F-Secure and BitDefender has found a virus which is one of the best antivirus from the list, but why not Avira, AVG or even Kaspersky which is one of the best on the list?
However, I still think it's a false alarm. SystemPack 1.7 should be fine since it has a lower detection than the previous version, but not the player kit.
It could be a false alarm or not. We do not know for sure.
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Zitat von Schatten
Wie viele Meldungen haben die originalen Dateien? / How much results have the original files?
Also die vom Playerkit-1.08k? 4 bzw. 5 Meldungen. / From Playerkit-1.08k? 4 and 5 results.
GothicStarter.exe (4)
GothicStarter_mod.exe (5)
edit:
das heißt,
das alte Playerkit --> GothicStarter.exe 4 Alarme, GothicStarter_mod.exe 5 Alarme
das neue Playerkit --> GothicStarter.exe 4 Alarme, GothicStarter_mod.exe 7 Alarme (wenn Dateien nicht upx-komprimiert wurden)
Also sieht es ganz gut aus.
Trotzdem wäre es gut wenn MaGoth etwas zur Herkunft des Playerkits sagt.
that means,
old Playerkit --> GothicStarter.exe 4 Alarms, GothicStarter_mod.exe 4 Alarms
new Playerkit --> GothicStarter.exe 4 Alarms, GothicStarter_mod.exe 7 Alarms (if files not packed with upx)
Thats looking some better.
Anyhow it would be good if MaGoth tells us something about the origin of the playerkit.
Geändert von Blue Force (20.03.2017 um 18:45 Uhr)
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Zitat von Blue Force
Also die vom Playerkit-1.08k? Jeweils 4 Meldungen. / From Playerkit-1.08k? 4 results per file.
Die von GothicStarter.exe und GothicStarter_mod.exe meinte ich. Bitte dazu auch die VirusTotal Scans. Dann ist die Quelle gleich da.
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Zitat von Schatten
Die von GothicStarter.exe und GothicStarter_mod.exe meinte ich. Bitte dazu auch die VirusTotal Scans. Dann ist die Quelle gleich da.
Habs oben editiert.
GothicStarter_mod.exe ist inzwischen von 4 auf 5 gewechselt.
Und habe oben noch mehr editiert, Fazit: sieht inzwischen ganz gut aus.
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Auch nur vier oder fünf Meldungen könnten schädlich sein.
Doch Virenscanner sind nicht unfehlbar und müssen nicht zwangsweise der Wahrheit entsprechen. Es kann auch passieren, dass eine Datei als harmlos eingestuft wird und beim Öffnen Dinge tut, die es nicht sollte. Ebenso auch umgekehrt. Eine Datei, die als schädlich eingestuft wurde, macht beim Öffnen das, was sie tun sollte.
Geändert von Schatten (20.03.2017 um 18:57 Uhr)
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Wenn sich die Anzahl der Viren-Scanner, die Alarm schlagen binnen so kurzer Zeit ändert würde ich darauf schließen, dass sie solche Dateien noch nicht gesehen haben. Wenn dann Definitionsupdates eingespielt werden ändern sich damit dann auch die Ergebnisse.
Ich würde abwarten und die Software erstmal nicht verwenden, bis da ein einheitliches Bild entsteht.
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Zitat von Orcane
Wenn sich die Anzahl der Viren-Scanner, die Alarm schlagen binnen so kurzer Zeit ändert würde ich darauf schließen, dass sie solche Dateien noch nicht gesehen haben. Wenn dann Definitionsupdates eingespielt werden ändern sich damit dann auch die Ergebnisse.
Ich würde abwarten und die Software erstmal nicht verwenden, bis da ein einheitliches Bild entsteht.
Sie haben sich nicht geändert. BlueForce hat den Installer untersucht und herausgefunden, dass das Ganze mit upx komprimiert wurde. Die Komprimierung mit upx hat einen Teil der Meldungen hervorgerufen.
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Zitat von Blue Force
I examined the installer, it contains following files:
Code:
VDFS.cfg
│
├───$PLUGINSDIR
│ InstallOptions.dll
│ ioSpecial.ini
│ modern-wizard.bmp
│
└───System
│ GothicGame.ini
│ GothicGame.rtf
│ GothicStarter.exe
│ GothicStarter_mod.exe
│
└───$PLUGINSDIR
LangDLL.dll
The files GothicStarter.exe and GothicStarter_mod.exe were compressed by upx, which is known to cause alarms. I decompressed them and now the detections rate is lower:
GothicStarter.exe --> 4 alerts
GothicStarter_mod.exe --> 7 alerts
So a part of the detections can be explained because the playerkit was packed with upx-compression, but not all.
I agree and I will be waiting for the MaGoth like the most of the people here.
Zitat von Schatten
It could be a false alarm or not. We do not know for sure.
Maybe, but since it has multiple alarms (over 10 which is a lot) its strange. However, when I have ESET I had multiple alarms on some exe files which were either small file (for example the DIESoft Lite for Battlefield 2) it would say that its virus. It wasn't a virus, only a hack tool which allows me to use all weapons in BF2, but only in SP so its not a cheating tool since it's not possible to rank up in the single player BF2.
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Zitat von Marek33
I hope that MaGoth will explain what this means, but it's strange that neither Malwarebytes nor Hitman Pro doesn't detect them which are probably the best anti malware programs. Only F-Secure and BitDefender has found a virus which is one of the best antivirus from the list, but why not Avira, AVG or even Kaspersky which is one of the best on the list?
Possible Solution:
Write to the technical support of your antivirus, let them check these files and fix their programs.
We will not deal with this.
However, I still think it's a false alarm. SystemPack 1.7 should be fine since it has a lower detection than the previous version, but not the player kit.
Bingo!
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Zitat von MaGoth
Possible Solution:
Write to the technical support of your antivirus, let them check these files and fix their programs.
We will not deal with this.
I don't use any antivirus, but I check small files like this one and since there was already a discussion about it, I check it on the Virustotal (which is my favorite website to find if a file or other website has a virus). Also, I check the SystemPack and the Gothic 2 controls are very interesting. On one side its perfect that picking things can be done with one button, but the ladders need some fixing (especially the one at the broken tower). It could be because I don't have that player kit which you linked there, but why I should use that one if I have the one from here?
Also, most of the other things from the list are working and they are great!
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Zitat von Marek33
On one side its perfect that picking things can be done with one button, but the ladders need some fixing (especially the one at the broken tower).
What exactly work wrong with ladder?
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Zitat von Guzz
What exactly work wrong with ladder?
Well, that's hard to explain, but when the hero should be moving up to the ladder (and a little forward to the huts) he just moves up and it looks funny. Also, I will probably make a video since I'm not sure if it will happen to other people as well, but only on that one ladder. I haven't tried a lot of other ladder, but the short ones don't have this problem.
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