HELP!! In Gothic 1, I can't become a templar!

[ArmyOfOne]

Hi everyone and thanks for helping me out.

I am revisiting Gothic I after a long time and I wonder if I am doing something wrong in becoming Templar. I am level 13 (level 10+ required) and I have killed the minecrawlers and then did the almanac mission. I talked to both Cor Kalam and Cor Angar. Angar appoints me to become Templar and to talk to Cor Na Toth in order to get my first Templar Armor. However, when I talk to Na Toth, there is no option to receive my armor - So I am stuck in being a Novice. All I can do is have him train me in Mana, Strength, and Dexterity.

Did I forget something to help me unlock his decision to give me armor? Or is this some bug? <--- Can I fix it?

Thanks soo much.

[Sowilo]

... long time ago.. do u got the minecrawler eggs? Do u got the focus? Maybe u have to make these queste before u can became it but I don't know it.

[ArmyOfOne]

yes I got the minecrawler eggs and got the focus stone and then got the almanac. I gave it all to Cor Kalam and they tried to wake up the Sleeper. The cinematic came up and everyone sees an Orc. Now we all have to fight the Orcs and Chapter 3 begins.

After reading a couple of online walkthroughs, I should be a templar by now.

I'm sorry, I know this is a LOOOONG time ago but I just hope someone is fresh off beating Gothic I for the 98th time? haha. thanks though

[Sowilo]

My brother think that u have to clean the Orcish graveyard before u can became a templar. But he isn't sure about that. Me too I can't remember if u have to made this quest as a novice or as a templar.

edit: we looked it up u should became Templer after u delievered the eggs to Cor Kalom. But I don't now if I can get the armour - btw which armour is there sth like a "small" and a "heavy" armour? The better u can get later.

[MladjanDJ]

Well this is how I become a templar,I done the quest with the minecrawlers and when I went back one of thouse templars that are standing at the entrance of swamp camp said good work...go and talk with cor Angar.So he pomoted me to a Templar,then I got armor from cor Na Toth.

[_DieGo_]

i just have a question: after you beat the minecrawler queen and get out of the nest did you talk to those templars who said sth like: "you've done a great job for our brotherhood..." bla bla and after this you get in the optional menu "Promotion to templar"... ???

[WernerTWC]

yes I got the minecrawler eggs and got the focus stone and then got the almanac. I gave it all to Cor Kalam and they tried to wake up the Sleeper. The cinematic came up and everyone sees an Orc. Now we all have to fight the Orcs and Chapter 3 begins.

After reading a couple of online walkthroughs, I should be a templar by now.

I'm sorry, I know this is a LOOOONG time ago but I just hope someone is fresh off beating Gothic I for the 98th time? haha. thanks though
I´m only guessing:

- Have you searched those herbs for Y´berion and bring to Cor Angar?

- Have you talked with saturas about the fokis?

[ArmyOfOne]

Well this is how I become a templar,I done the quest with the minecrawlers and when I went back one of thouse templars that are standing at the entrance of swamp camp said good work...go and talk with cor Angar.So he pomoted me to a Templar,then I got armor from cor Na Toth.

I did that exact thing, except I couldn't get the Armor.


i just have a question: after you beat the minecrawler queen and get out of the nest did you talk to those templars who said sth like: "you've done a great job for our brotherhood..." bla bla and after this you get in the optional menu "Promotion to templar"... ???

Yes I talked to those templars AND have the "Promotion to templar" in the info menu. It says that Cor Angar appointed me to templar and I should get armor from Na Toth. But I go to Na Toth, and he doesnt give it to me. There is no dialogue for it.

[ArmyOfOne]

I´m only guessing:

- Have you searched those herbs for Y´berion and bring to Cor Angar?

- Have you talked with saturas about the fokis?

I will try to do those, hopefully the Mercs will let me in to see Saturas. Though I dont know what "herbs" you are talking about?

[WernerTWC]

Whats in your overview (???) (hit b in the game) i bet there is writen novice, not templar, right?

EDIT:

These herbs:
http://people.freenet.de/WernerTWC/gothic/stronherb.jpg

Can be found in the swamp, quest ´Healing herbs for Y´Berion´ (or something similar)

[ArmyOfOne]

Whats in your overview (???) (hit b in the game) i bet there is writen novice, not templar, right?

Hmmm just checked it and YES! I am a Templar. But According to the game and the walkthroughs, I should be getting the armor from Cor Na Toth. If worse comes to worst, I'll just fight it in Novice Armor until I can buy upgraded Templar Armor. Atleast the game knows I'm a Templar.

[WernerTWC]

Sounds like a bug, normaly it´s like this.

- light templar armor can be get at start of chapter 3,
- medium templar armor can be get after orc-graveyard-quest
- heavy templar armor can be get at start of chapter 4

If you don´t get them at those points, cheat them:

- light templar armor: tpl_armor_l
- medium templar armor :tpl_armor_m
- heavy templar armor: tpl_armor_h

[ArmyOfOne]

how do I use the cheat? I cant make the "_" the underscore in marvin mode.

[WernerTWC]

how do I use the cheat? I cant make the "_" the underscore in marvin mode.

This is a great explanation: :)


1. Marvin-Mode

Activation/Deactivation of the Marvin mod

To activate the Marvin mode do as follows:

Type B or C to open the status/character screen.
Now write "marvin" (without "")
Type B or C at the status/character screen to close.

If now in the left upper screen corner the text "Marvin mode" appears the Marvin mode is activated and one can open the console open (see 2).

In order to deactivate the Marvin mode, one proceeds as follows:


Type B or C around the status/character screen to open.
Write now "42" (without "")
Type B or C at the status/character screen to close.


If now in the left upper screen corner the text "What was the question? " appears, the Marvin mode is deactivated, and one can play normally further.

Attention! If one saves in the activated Marvin mode, it can happen that the save cannot loaded any more. Hence, before saveing terminate the Marvin mod (like just now described). Bugs and mistakes can also appear if one plays too long in the Marvin mod.

next (Activation / deactivate of the Marvin fashion)


2. Console

Useing of the console

One can use the console only if one is in the Marvin mod (see 1 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586224&#post1586224) ).
With the key F2 one can open the console and close. In the console one can:

Insert objects and persons (see 3 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586417&#post1586417))
Change character values(see 4 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586759&#post1586759))
Animations (see 5 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586790&#post1586790))
Kill selected person/monster(see 6 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1587479&#post1587479))
Move to waypoint (see 7 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1587482&#post1587482))

next (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586417&#post1586417)



3. Insertion

Insert persons, objects or monsters

To insert persons, objects or monsters into the game, one must be in the Marvin mode (see 1 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586224&#post1586224) ) and open the console (see 2 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586367&#post1586367)).

Insert' suitable code "give"
press ENTER

Now the desired object is inserted into the game. For example if you whant to insert z.b Gaan

Insert Bau_961_Gaan eingeben
Press ENTER

One can neglect capital letters and use small letters, on this occasion.
List of the orders:

Gothic 1 Objects (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1589610&#post1589610)
G1 Monsters [link]
G1 Persons [link]
G2 Objects [link]
G2 Monsters [link]
G2 Persons [link]

next (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1586759&#post1586759)

[Sowilo]

how do I use the cheat? I cant make the "_" the underscore in marvin mode.

hmm. it could be.. that would be really cool.. hmm mabye:
There r different German and English keyboards. At a German one u have to press the third key right from "m" + shift to make "_". "z" and "y" r changed too. Coz that German write often "hez guzs" in games cause the games have the English board. Where the "-" is at a English keyboard we have "?" in German.
And try to find out (as a German one) in a English Dos Box which letter on ur keyboard makes a ":" or "\" makes u go crazy^^.

edit:

and u have to write "insert" + "itemname".

[rockfest]

If I'm not mistaking if you want to insert the "_" you have to press : SHIFT+"/" .

[ArmyOfOne]

Ok yes the keys are mixed up and I got it. So yeah even when I qualified for the medium Templar Armor, I didnt get the option to buy it. It's almost as if Templar Armor didnt exist to acheive.

And now theres a a bug when Zombies and other creatures are almost invulnerable. God! why all these bugs? My version is updated too!


Thanks everyone for all your help.

[Sowilo]

I am sry but I am satisfied that finally a American has problems with a mixed keyboard too - that is called poetic justice^^.

U can't hurt undeads?

edit: was it the third key right from m?

[ArmyOfOne]

Yeah the third key from the "m" was right... thats usually my "?" and "/" key. I guess English keyboards have the "_" and "-" key to the right of "0".

Yeah I dont know why my game is soo buggy and glitchy. It is really hard to him to climb a wall. Many times I try to hit a hard-to-beat creature, some of my hits dont register. I tried to kill some zombies and they just wouldnt take damage. After maybe 100 swings i finally hurt it but it was useless to fight them.

[Sowilo]

Hmmm.. sounds really like a bug. There could only one possibility. U have a low sword skill and the defense point of the zombie is higher than ur attack. So u only hurt them when u make a total hit. But I think as a templar u should be better.

[Petyamester]

One of the few bugs with which we cannot walk through the game.

[ArmyOfOne]

Those zombies i'll just deal with using the destroy undead spell.... much easier haha. I'm finally for the Ore Armor so screw that templar armor haha. The game seems to work ok now.... minus all the times it crashes and minor glitches i can avoid by saving very often.

Thanks guys.

[uranium]

I did that exact thing, except I couldn't get the Armor.



Yes I talked to those templars AND have the "Promotion to templar" in the info menu. It says that Cor Angar appointed me to templar and I should get armor from Na Toth. But I go to Na Toth, and he doesnt give it to me. There is no dialogue for it.

This is the bug. After Y'Berion gets unconscious, talk to Cor Angar. You should choose questions to Cor Angar in concrete order. I don't remember exact order, but look like next. First of all ask him, what's happened, he will ask you to go to ork's cemetery. Answer him you are going. Then ask about becoming templar. Then go to Gor Na Tooth and ask about armor.
If it is not work, load save before talk to Cor Angar and start over.

[rockfest]

This is the bug. After Y'Berion gets unconscious, talk to Cor Angar. You should choose questions to Cor Angar in concrete order. I don't remember exact order, but look like next. First of all ask him, what's happened, he will ask you to go to ork's cemetery. Answer him you are going. Then ask about becoming templar. Then go to Gor Na Tooth and ask about armor.
If it is not work, load save before talk to Cor Angar and start over.
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[Petyamester]

Hello there.