Gothic 2 boring...

[Vicix2]

I really, really loved G2, but I have only played it through 1,5 times, with cheats. (completed as a mercenary and tried again with militia, but lost interest)
I am not sure if I really got the essence at that time, and I want to play it again, from the beginning.

Biggest problem is I just don't feel the interest for doing everything over again :(
I am planning to join the mages.

Bottom line: I need something to get me to play the game again!

Personally the Gothis series are my favourite games. None above, none aside, though I have only completed Gothic II (not NotR, but played through the Hidden island-part thingy)...

[Zero Cool]

the game is for gameplay too not only for story

[Dino]

Try and play the game without any cheats. And without reloading. You know what? Play it Hardcore (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=838429).

You won't find it so boring when you die in the late parts of the game.

[fragonard]

Try it with the mod Velaya. You won't be bored because it a completely new sequel set in the original world space. I can't recommend this mod enough; similar quality to the original and almost as long at 35 or so hours.

[InnerMoon]

Try it with the Night of the raven addon and play as a mage and no cheats... believe me , you will have a loooot of un... :P

[Trokar the White]

A wise man once said: "Only boring people get bored."

[TeLovesc]

gothic 2 indeed is kinda boring and the story is not that good either. You can wait for arcania ,a true gothic game with nice story and graphics. :))cheers

[Mielas]

gothic 2 indeed is kinda boring and the story is not that good either. You can wait for arcania ,a true gothic game with nice story and graphics. :))cheers

i hope you are making fun of him. :D

[Hellbilly]

i hope you are making fun of him. :D

It's rather obvious he is. TeLoVesc, you're treading on a thin line. You're pulling your infantile stunts too often. You've needed to be told to behave too often recently. You're in no position to mock or make fun of anyone.

[TeLovesc]

It's rather obvious he is. TeLoVesc, you're treading on a thin line. You're pulling your infantile stunts too often. You've need to be told to behave too often recently.

what?? are you kidding me? i just expressed my opinion ,deal with it

everytime i say something you come and comment it . Nobody else but you man . You are mod of a forum ,not some god . You should change your attitude ,who do you think you are anyway?

[Hellbilly]

everytime i say something you come and comment it . Nobody else but you man . You are mod of a forum ,not some god . You should change your attitude ,who do you think you are anyway?

I'm the guy supposed to keep this section a civil place. You, with your often mocking and intentionally insulting posts, are putting in your little effort in making this everything but a civil place. If you care to notice, I only tell you to behave when you're misbehaving. So, the logical conclusion is: stop making offending, mocking and hostile posts, and I won't have to tell you to stop making offending, mocking and hostile posts. It's really quite simple.

I've said it countless times before, there's a difference between expressing an opinion and being obnoxious and hostile. You can express negative opinions of a game without being hostile or obnoxious, or without resorting to lowly personal jabs. Sadly, however, recently you've resorted to the latter quite often, which is where things slip from being good to being questionable. When small things like that start piling up, it's time to say something. And if you keep doing it, someone will have to keep saying it to you.

[TeLovesc]

I'm the guy supposed to keep this section a civil place. You, with your often mocking and intentionally insulting posts, are making this everything but a civil place. If you care to notice, I only tell you to behave when you're misbehaving. So, the logical conclusion is: stop making offending, mocking and hostile posts, and I won't have to tell you to stop making offending, mocking and hostile posts. It's really quite simple.

So i`m the bad guy... there are threads meant to criticize the game ,but there comes someone praising the game ,knowing that thread was meant for criticizing ,and still he`s not considered a troll.
And what insults? I don`t make this personal ,i just talk about games .
But nevermind ,you won`t have to deal with me coz i won`t bother to post here anyway . cheers

[Hellbilly]

So i`m the bad guy...

I didn't say that. You said that.


there are threads meant to criticize the game ,but there comes someone praising the game ,knowing that thread was meant for criticizing ,and still he`s not considered a troll.

A thread is a discussion. In a discussion, opinions both for and against are allowed. If someone has a problem with that, that someone should abstrain from discussing.


And what insults? I don`t make this personal ,i just talk about games .

Telling people they are trolls when they post reasonable questions that just happen to be contrary to your opinion, telling others rudely to "stop talking crap" when all they do is expressing an opinion, implying that someone is next to incapable of using their brain, etc.; all these are pretty insultory posts. You don't need to call someone names to be insulting; the way you express your opinions and respond to other people may be most insulting in itself without any intended personal attacks.

[Zeri0n]

weee the drama is continuing,
http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/King_Drew_Medical_Magnet/images/SmileyPopcorn.gif

[Sorinash]

I played gothic 2 NOTR for about 15-16 times.I got a bit bored sometimes but after a month-two i return to gothic.The gothic series are the only games i played with such excitement,trust me. ;)
If you haven't played gothic 1 yet,you should totally do it now.When you know the whole story you got more determination. :D

[kmx-]

So i`m the bad guy... there are threads meant to criticize the game ,but there comes someone praising the game ,knowing that thread was meant for criticizing ,and still he`s not considered a troll.
And what insults? I don`t make this personal ,i just talk about games .
But nevermind ,you won`t have to deal with me coz i won`t bother to post here anyway . cheers

Since this is badly needed, I can spare you one Potion of Maturity to build up a better character. Guzzle down and taste the thrill of the day / And behave in a mature way

[Tratos]

Since this is badly needed, I can spare you one Potion of Maturity to build up a better character. Guzzle down and taste the thrill of the day / And behave in a mature way

Now don't jump on this wagon, cause there ain't no place in it. When a mod does his/her thing, that ain't no legal invite for you to join in, under some deluded impression that you are safe to school someone in the ways of life. Keep this kind of remarks to yourself, thank you.


weee the drama is continuing,


Nothing interesting here. Move along, quietly.

[Vicix2]

This is so very, very unneccesary :(

I love Gothic, all the way, even G4, but thats just because it is a successor with a continuing story...

This thread is being misused. There is absolutely no need for you to argue like that. Only bad "energy" is left :( :(

Really: I only wanted a good argument to start playing G2 again, and thanks for the answers. I did not ask for a fight, however, so please!

No disrespect modders :)

[Dino]

Really: I only wanted a good argument to start playing G2 again, and thanks for the answers.

This?


Try and play the game without any cheats. And without reloading. You know what? Play it Hardcore (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=838429).

You won't find it so boring when you die in the late parts of the game.

Hardcore is loads of fun. :D

[Cyclops1953]

I didn't say that. You said that.



A thread is a discussion. In a discussion, opinions both for and against are allowed. If someone has a problem with that, that someone should abstrain from discussing.



Telling people they are trolls when they post reasonable questions that just happen to be contrary to your opinion, telling others rudely to "stop talking crap" when all they do is expressing an opinion, implying that someone is next to incapable of using their brain, etc.; all these are pretty insultory posts. You don't need to call someone names to be insulting; the way you express your opinions and respond to other people may be most insulting in itself without any intended personal attacks.


Hellbilly,in looking over this thread,the only comment that I can see to be possibly considered an afront to Vicix2(the original poster)or anyone else is Trokar the White's comment 'A wise man once said: "Only boring people get bored."'

TeLovesc's original post"gothic 2 indeed is kinda boring and the story is not that good either. You can wait for arcania ,a true gothic game with nice story and graphics."As I see it contains nothing offensive.

Despite whatever TeLovesc haas posted in the past,your reaction in this instance was not needed nor called for.If anything you should have said something to Trokar the White.

Modding is not an easy task but when doing it you must be fare and impartial.

[Nisarg]

No disrespect modders :)

A modder is someone who mods or modifies a game. Someone who wields orange stars on WoP (and, by extension, WoG) is a moderator. A mod may refer to either a moderator or a game modification depending on the context. It is very rare that these two uses cause a confusion though.

[Tharr]

Hellbilly,in looking over this thread,the only comment that I can see to be possibly considered an afront to Vicix2(the original poster)or anyone else is Trokar the White's comment 'A wise man once said: "Only boring people get bored."'

TeLovesc's original post"gothic 2 indeed is kinda boring and the story is not that good either. You can wait for arcania ,a true gothic game with nice story and graphics."As I see it contains nothing offensive.

Despite whatever TeLovesc haas posted in the past,your reaction in this instance was not needed nor called for.If anything you should have said something to Trokar the White.

Modding is not an easy task but when doing it you must be fare and impartial.
I have to agree with Cyclops1953 ..and let's end this...is not funny :dnuhr:

Also Gothic 2 was for me the reason to buy a new computer..after playing Gothic 1 (when I start playing it the G2 was already released) I have to see what was happening next and my cpu was not strong enough for it... :))

[Tratos]

<snip>

Hellbilly's remark was not to a single, incidental post, but to a one in many posts by TeLovesc, that were written in a very similar fashion. It is not easy to grasp the vibe straight away, when you only drop in occasionally and read the threads you like (which is what users usually do), but when you have to read all of the posts, you can see the patterns much more easily. I suggest you do this kind of reading, before you start questioning.

And yes, this is the end of this.

[Tharr]

Hellbilly's remark was not to a single, incidental post, but to a one in many posts by TeLovesc, written in a very similar fashion. It is not easy to grasp the vibe straight away, when you only drop in occasionally and read the threads you like (which is what users usually do), but when you have to read all of the posts, you can see the patterns much more easily. I suggest you do this kind of reading, before you start questioning.

And yes, this is the end of this.

I think you also have wright ... but let's see what other fit the pattern : maybe his nickname TeLovesc-"I hit you" in Romanian(which is also my language that's why I know) ---- totally fits the pattern and makes me thing that he has an acid personality (I could say more but after someone might say that I have something with him too LOL).

[Zeri0n]

Nothing interesting here. Move along, quietly.

Tits or gtfo:grinundwe

[Vicix2]

A modder is someone who mods or modifies a game. Someone who wields orange stars on WoP (and, by extension, WoG) is a moderator. A mod may refer to either a moderator or a game modification depending on the context. It is very rare that these two uses cause a confusion though.

Right, sorry :)

[vic1968]

...he has an acid personality
No man, he is only a Gothic fan, just like me and perhaps you.You see, @Hellbilly is an Arcania lover and this is OK but some other things are not OK, at least in my humble opinion.I think that using words like "infantile" can be considered as insults and also defending Arcania so hard from a moderator position is not correct.
On topic now: I never thought that G2 is boring:dnuhr:

[Hellbilly]

No man, he is only a Gothic fan, just like me and perhaps you.You see, @Hellbilly is an Arcania lover and this is OK but some other things are not OK, at least in my humble opinion.I think that using words like "infantile" can be considered as insults and also defending Arcania so hard from a moderator position is not correct.
On topic now: I never thought that G2 is boring:dnuhr:

This is a prime moment for a facepalm, if there ever was one, for many reasons. For one, I am certainly no Arcania lover; saying the demo wasn't as bad as some loudly claimed it would be and instead saying it is instead quite OK does not make one that, lest the claimant of that be one of those who see everything in black and white. And secondly, this was not in any way about defending or attacking Arcania; anyone who would seriously claim that has reading comprehension problems or alternatively did not read the posts properly for any other reason.

It seems I need to re-iterate my own words again: it's OK to not like Arcania, or to like it, and say so. However, one must remain civil when doing so and refrain from obnoxious, infantile, mocking and hostile wordings when doing so. One may even enter into a discussion with arguments for or against Arcania (or, indeed, any of the Gothics) and it being a good/bad game, but only as long as that does not mean lowering oneself to a level unacceptable in civil discussion amongst civilized people.

[warstrike]

HellBilly i think you overreacted and as a moderator you should be impartial. Everyone has his opinion after all

[Hellbilly]

HellBilly i think you overreacted and as a moderator you should be impartial. Everyone has his opinion after all

It has nothing to do with opinion. Read the post of my colleague to gain further insight. Then, read my post above yours on opinions and expressing them for even further insight.

[Argenguy]

You just have a cop attitude, I understand that, as a mod your task is to keep the forum civil and preventing possible battlefronts. Sadly, oftentimes your attempts for doing so in a civil manner are futile. It's like trying to block a leaking in a boat your hands to keep it afloat, it works for a time, but the hole gets bigger because there're some nasty critters nibbling the hole bigger. Either you kill them all or resist until the critter get tired. Either way the boat sinks.

I ain't sayin' that your efforts are futile, but you should be taking more serious measures before it's too late.

Guys like Telovesc want ArcaniA to fail in the worst way, from him, Gothic belongs to PB, and no other besides PB can do it better.
Or perhaps he's just a reminder of the crude reality.
Either way you ain't gonna save the game from anything. You are just doing your job, even if your fate is the same as the Titanic's Captain. Let's hope not, but I'm not too optimistic.

The days of glory of WoG either are waned long ago or the forum slowly became something different that the old crowd doesn't like.

@OP: Try what Dino suggested, play the game without cheats.

[Zeri0n]

@Tratos, dude there are so many things to see here :D

[Tratos]

@Argenguy

Nothing is futile. Hell, if we sounded the "everyone abandon ship" alarm, this here Titanic of yours would've sank quicker than a piece of lead in a lake. And yes, it has to be done in a civil manner, lest the forum becomes that which we fight against. It's a matter of time and working under pressure - nothing new, to be frank.


@Tratos, dude there are so many things to see here :D

Not very receptive to subtlety, are you? The point was, your cheeky "popcorn in hands, drama continues" remarks have been happening a tad too often. Stray clear of these. See that yellow "Do not cross" band around the perimeter. That's right, you stay behind it till the matter is cleared up.

And on this, the matter meets its epilogue. No further discussion, other than on topic, will be condoned in this thread.

[Argenguy]

Why you mods just let the funny fellows to rip each other appart, they will get tired sooner or later. When the ArcaniA rush ends, everything goes back to normal, as always. If the forum must burn like Rome, then it will*. The fire will extinguish sooner or later, and you will just have to sweep the ashes and kick all the nasty critters out of the floor, don't worry about them, after the debacle they always go back to their lairs in where they feel safe.

*Honestly I don't think that it will burn like Nero's Rome since ArcaniA doesn't seem to be a buggy mess like Gothic 3, but you can easily expect a tide of mockeries and bashing, that's for sure.

[Hellbilly]

That's because we're here to keep the forum in check. Letting everyone run amok is not keeping it in check. Letting a few people ruin the forum or one section it for everyone is just what we're working to avoid. Or letting one thing ruin it for everyone because some cannot act civil - Arcania in this case.

Experience also tells us that two people who truly have it in for each other will not tire out. There are quite a few examples of such sparring partners in the past of this here forum, actually.

[Larisa]

burn like Nero's Rome since ArcaniA doesn't seem to be a buggy mess like Gothic 3

Rome burned because it didn't had invisible walls and the NPCs reacted when looted. :p

[Th13f]

I agree with Hellbilly and Tratos here. A lot of people departed this forum ever since this wave of infantile bashing started. Some of them "emigrated" to the JoWooD boards (myself included). Its because the atmosphere here is hostile towards the people which openly state that they like Gothic 4. Nowadays openly admitting that you like Gothic 4 is likely to get you insulted. This is the reason why people have departed WoG recently.

@ Vicix2: You should try one of the graphic overhaul mods out there, like Nature's Fury. I haven't played it yet because Warsong files make my game incompatible with other mods, but from the screenshots it looks very neat.

@ Larisa: Nice avatar :D

[Gor_Na_Drak]

I agree with Hellbilly and Tratos here. A lot of people departed this forum ever since this wave of infantile bashing started. Some of them "emigrated" to the JoWooD boards (myself included). Its because the atmosphere here is hostile towards the people which openly state that they like Gothic 4. Nowadays openly admitting that you like Gothic 4 is likely to get you insulted. This is the reason why people have departed WoG recently.

No it's not. Most left due to personal reasons that have nothing to do with Arcania and whether they like it or not. And it seems you have a case of tunnel vision. I've seen much more "bashing", as you call it, about Arcania over on the JW forums than I've seen here. And as far as being infantile goes, I've seen many more posts on the JW forums where it was the Arcania lovers who have gone off half cocked carrying on like little children if others don't share their love of Arcania. Basically telling anyone who doesn't share their opinion of the game to STFU and move on.

[Th13f]

No it's not. Most left due to personal reasons that have nothing to do with Arcania and whether they like it or not. And it seems you have a case of tunnel vision. I've seen much more "bashing", as you call it, about Arcania over on the JW forums than I've seen here. And as far as being infantile goes, I've seen many more posts on the JW forums where it was the Arcania lovers who have gone off half cocked carrying on like little children if others don't share their love of Arcania. Basically telling anyone who doesn't share their opinion of the game to STFU and move on.

Yes, I've seen that as well. The difference is that most people on WoG are hostile towards Gothic 4 fans, while on the JoWooD boards, the fanboys tend to bash eachother and leave the rest of us alone. Also, I admit making a mistake when saying that people have mainly left WoG because of the atmosphere. You're right that most of the people who are less active, are this way because of personal reasons (in my case, its work on Warsong), but some people that used to be very active here on WoG are more active on the JoWooD boards these days. I was confused by this. Anyway, I'm going to stop with the offtopic now, before a moderator intervenes. If you have more to say on this matter, PM me.

[Argenguy]

Some departed to PB forums because they don't want anything form JW anymore and support creators of the series (PB) and their new game (Risen) rather than a dying franchise that can't meet their expectations.

[Hellbilly]

All right, back on topic. Gothic 2 can't be so boring you have to talk about something else in a thread where you're supposed to challenge the claim that Gothic 2 is boring... :p

[djzolie]

Gothic's are not boring at all, if you get addicted to it like most of us here... personally I can't stop playing it over and over. There is only one more game like that to me (Might and Magic 6-8, quite oldies). Maybe you are not "in the treadmill" yet :)

[cucubits]

+1 for the NO cheats advice. It's a completely different game when you actually have to do some quests, explore, work ... not just type in something and get the sword of uberness in an instant.

Try to follow the story and you'll see how you'll feel when after completing a number of quests, you get a new armor for example, and you can now go to a place where you would die previously... just an example

In my opinion cheating takes away all the motivation in this game.


:gratz

[kojocel]

In my opinion cheating takes away all the motivation in this game.

Not only in this one.

[Onisuzume]

No cheats + NotR is definitely anything but boring.
Particulary in the beginning when you can barely fight your way out of a wet paper bag. Two hits to kill a meatbug? Really? :eek:

Or, for an even bigger challenge, go play Gothic 3 without the community patch. You know, with the insane attack speed on the boars/wolves/etc.

The very real risk of dying sure does lighten up the game's experience.
It really makes you carefully consider which route to take, and to run like hell when you run into an unexpected enemy.

[Rodriquezz]

You don't like Gothic 2!? Burn him!

[jubei]

Hey! I have a hint for you! Save the game at level 15-16 while you are still in chapter 1. Use dexterity instead of strength so you can kill with dexterity-based weapons any enemy (and it's also a benefit for picklocks and pick pocket).

There you are! This way you save many many hours, and later on u can choose the path u want... Paladin, Drago-Hunter or Mage §wink

[Onisuzume]

Hey! I have a hint for you! Save the game at level 15-16 while you are still in chapter 1. Use dexterity instead of strength so you can kill with dexterity-based weapons any enemy (and it's also a benefit for picklocks and pick pocket).
Good idea if you want to suck in melee.
*All* melee damage is based on weapon + strength.
No dexterity in it whatsoever except to wield a weapon.

[Sorinash]

Good idea if you want to suck in melee.
*All* melee damage is based on weapon + strength.
No dexterity in it whatsoever except to wield a weapon.

Well,doing some dexterity isn't hurting you :D,and after you return from Jarkhendar you can do only str if you want,but if you want to make urself a fine dragon hunter,do dex too ^^.
My build would be like that: before leaving Khorinis i would have 40% one-handed skill,40 str,60 des for the master sword and 40 str is kinda enough for doing pretty good dmg (and the 40% change for crit if more than enough in my opinion)+you have more change of succesful pickpocketing and picklocking as jubei said :).
I don't see the reason why you should exagerate with the str...if you know how to lvl 15-16 before leaving Khorinis.

[Onisuzume]

Well,doing some dexterity isn't hurting you :D,and after you return from Jarkhendar you can do only str if you want,but if you want to make urself a fine dragon hunter,do dex too ^^.
My build would be like that: before leaving Khorinis i would have 40% one-handed skill,40 str,60 des for the master sword and 40 str is kinda enough for doing pretty good dmg (and the 40% change for crit if more than enough in my opinion)+you have more change of succesful pickpocketing and picklocking as jubei said :).
I don't see the reason why you should exagerate with the str...if you know how to lvl 15-16 before leaving Khorinis.
Really now? Dexterity is needed?
Lets look at the damage numbers:
Meisterdegen normal hit: (120 + 40 - 0 - 1)/10 = 15,9/hit.
Meisterdegen critical: 120 + 40 - 0 = 160/hit.
Rubenklinge normal hit: (100 + 90 - 0 - 1)/10 = 18,9/hit.
Rubenklinge critical: 100 + 90 - 0 = 190/hit.
Net difference: 3% chance to crit, and no real pickpocketing (which is best saved for chapter 5 anyhow). :p

[Sorinash]

Really now? Dexterity is needed?
Lets look at the damage numbers:
Meisterdegen normal hit: (120 + 40 - 0 - 1)/10 = 15,9/hit.
Meisterdegen critical: 120 + 40 - 0 = 160/hit.
Rubenklinge normal hit: (100 + 90 - 0 - 1)/10 = 18,9/hit.
Rubenklinge critical: 100 + 90 - 0 = 190/hit.
Net difference: 3% chance to crit, and no real pickpocketing (which is best saved for chapter 5 anyhow). :p

Do as you wish,it was just a suggestion,not an order or some kind of :D.
I do it because this is how I got used to do this in gothic 2 notr and I don't think that I'll do it any other way.
Besides,I love fastness.I don't give a damn about str...well,not that much XD.

[rhaz]

If u want a real challenge AND the most fun (in my opinion at least), although a bit hard at the beginning of the game, GO FOR MAGE with NotR add-on. You won't regret it!

P.S. No, you MUST NOT use cheats, they will just ruin your game experience. Just get used to be a little more careful and save more often and in key spots §wink

[innubis]

gothic 2 indeed is kinda boring and the story is not that good either. You can wait for arcania ,a true gothic game with nice story and graphics. :))cheers

i should shoot you for that........

i hope after playing arcania now that is out you could change your mind.

almost everyone in the community whos a gothic fan acknowledges that is the best game ever, it had it all,

the lore about the gods

the lore about ancient nordmar

and the overall gameplay.

and to get to go back to a changed and destroid colony and plus to be able to plays in khorinis, plus ravens island.

men what you said is blasphemy, no other game in RPG history had it all under one hood. the content in g2 is endless.

and there isnt anything true about arcania, in the gothic sense, how can arcania be truer "gothic" than the very game(g2) that started it all, when arcania doesnt have half the weight g1 had, never the less compare it to g2 by saying its better than gothic 2., no other game is truer gothic game than g2, it had the colony to reminese on old memories, plus khorinis, plus so much i cant even mention.

probably you are a final fantasy fanboy also, and maybe those games are also better than gothic in your opinion? right?
all that japanese gay garbage, where all the heroes look afeminate.

[Hellbilly]

You should recalibrate your sarcasm-o-meter.

[innubis]

You should recalibrate your sarcasm-o-meter.

what you mean?

its no secret i liked arcani, but never did i say its better than gothic 1 or 2. its better in graphics and stability, but the story and game mechanics is pigeon shit.

hell no, i will never put arcania, such a disaster of a game in the original gothics standard level. even oblivion is a game i played twice, vanilla then shivering island, but gothic, i forgotten the times ive played that game. oblivion with all its nice graphics and all did not have the magic and spark that gothic 1 and 2 had in my personal shock value. Before we got NOTR here in USA, i had G2 vanilla and i was so ancious to the point i was learning german just to be able to play G2 NOTR, und das Raven. it was about 2 years after the german release that we got it here in the US.

arcania is a fast paste, onetime enjoyable little ride, and thats all, there was nothing memmorable about the game, and to be honest i didnt even cared about the story or its development, i finish the game with out understanding it or caring to understand the story, all i cared was fast action and move to the next area,
but in my heart and mind gothic 1 and 2 is and always will be the best rpgs ive played in my life time.

INFACT THE MORE TIME I SPEND THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARCANIA LACKED IN THE GOTHIC SENSE, THE MORE IM KINDA WAKING UP FROM A LITTLE HAZE AND FUZZY DREAM THAT I HAD FEW DAYS AGO CONCERNING MY OPINION ABOUT ARCANIA, ITS BEGGINING TO BE CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY SOLD US PIGEON SHIT, F***** JoWood i hope his company rots in financial hell......

[Hellbilly]

What I mean is, cross-reference sarcasm and TeLovesc's post ;)

[Trokar the White]

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

[boddynight]

If you got bored of Gothic 2 you should try Risen.It's like the compact version of G2-Notr,with better graphics and cooler fighting system.The atmosphere is also pretty good,reminding of Jharkendar,but I have to say that the story also reminds of Gothic 1 and sometimes 2,a little too much in my opinion.Anyway it should be the thing you need if G2 doesen't suit you,although I bet you will go back to Gothic after playing Risen.

[attila3453]

Try Velaya. I think it's a very good mod if you want to know what could happen after the end of Gothic 2.

[TudoracheMG]

Some departed to PB forums because they don't want anything form JW anymore and support creators of the series (PB) and their new game (Risen) rather than a dying franchise that can't meet their expectations.

Believe me,the official forums are anything but better than worldofgothic.If you dislike the game or the activity of a moderator,regardless of how constructive your opinion is,will most likely get you banned.
Here,at least,there is more freedom of speech,but,at the same time,rules are enforced more effectively and properly.

[warstrike]

If you dislike the game or the activity of a moderator,regardless of how constructive your opinion is,will most likely get you banned.


Sure disliking the game will get you banned . But no matter how many times they`ll ban users ,i know most moderators in Jowood forum don`t like the game as much as they pretend to ... an old fan can`t really like too much that fake gothic...seriously