[G2] [Mod] Returning - Russian

[catalinux]

I've just discovered on worldofgothic.ru this mod for G2Gold - Returning (http://returning.worldofgothic.ru/). The download size is 580 MB and from what I've seen from the screenshots this mod is impressive. The problem is that this mod is in Russian and I don't understudy a single word.
My question is if any of you knows an English translation of this mod.
Or someone from the development team could tell me if they are working on an English translation.

[jimokalos]

The mod is in russian only.But there are still people who translate it.Me and vivaxardas are translating it into english and urparis with some other guys into german. :)

[catalinux]

Glad to hear this :gratz

Now I have another problem. I have installed the mod but when I choose it from GothicStarter, it doesn't load the mod but the original game. I've also installed the patch. And it seems that there is no .vdf for the mod. I don't know if I did something wrong. I hope I'll figure this out...

[jimokalos]

Did you install g2mdk?

[Korianous]

This is a question for the modding forum. Moved.

[catalinux]

Yes I've installed g2mdk small version. When installing the mod the installer starts at some point the VDFS probably trying to compile something but it doesn't work.
The same operation was successful when installing Velaya (it compiled the mod speech.vdf).

[vivaxardas]

At first, there are two versions of Returning - 1.0 (a lot of bugs), and 1.1 (as a patch, requires 1.0 installed) (decent one). Also during installation you chose one of two versions - install as EXE-version (overwrites Gothic exe file, does not need GothicStarter, but cannot play regular G2), or MOD-version (as a regular mod, need to use GothicStarter).
Installation process is VERY long, be patient. If something is wrong, people on russian WOG suggest to uninstall everything (including Gothic 2), delete a game folder (no traces of previous installs should remain) and then reinstall everything again - Gothic 2+NOTR (2.6), MDK, update for MDK, Gothic Player kit (only for MOD version), then Returning 1.0 (MOD or EXE), and Returning 1.1 (the same version (MOD or EXE) as 1.0)
By the way, I did not manage to make any mod work on any of american versions of Gothic 2 Gold. So I bought russian G2 Gold (better for modding anyway). I have no idea how to fix problems with incompatibility.
Also on Vista I could not make GothicStarter work, so I had to install Returning as EXE version.

[one-cool]

The mod is in russian only.But there are still people who translate it.Me and vivaxardas are translating it into english and urparis with some other guys into german. :)
you are capable of speaking russian?
both of you?

[vivaxardas]

I am from Russia, now live in USA.

[jimokalos]

you are capable of speaking russian?
both of you?

Yeah i know russian because my uncle has lived there for about 11 years of his life.And he taught me a lot.

[catalinux]

I have Gothic 2 Gold 2.7

For mods I install the report version 2.6 fixed .exe

I'm playing on Linux Ubuntu / Wine

I will try again with the mod option with all the steps you mentioned. I will post soon the result §wink

Edit:

I did the mentioned steps but at this point (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5880/screenshot1n.png) the installer stops doing anything. I believe the GothicVDFS doesn't find some files or the script has some problems:dnuhr:

[GothicMod Team]

I guess that version of Gothic on which developed that mod was other that there is have you.

Why some words on the screen displayed not right? The problems with language? Maybe that because Installing use Russian language.

I'm very good know Russian, but not so good know English. I can help with Russian language.

[Korianous]

Is work still going on the translation? I've heard little in a while, I'm curious about it's status.

[vivaxardas]

Still working on it. :)

[Zelazko]

There is a pseudo English version of the mod. The text is translated by some translator like the google translator. Most of the sentences and dialogues are badly translated no wonder why though understandable.

To install pseudo English patch you must download and install in order:

1)G2MDK (http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index.php?go=downloads&release_id=93)

2 )G2MDK Patch v2.6a (http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index.php?go=downloads&release_id=99)

3) GothicStarter Update (http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index.php?go=downloads&release_id=168)

4) Version 1.0 of the mod (http://dl.worldofgothic.ru/details.php?file=35) also available here (http://depositfiles.com/en/files/sshmlfows)

5) Version 1.1 of the mod (http://dl.worldofgothic.ru/download.php?file=59)

6) Pseudo English patch (http://www.sendspace.com/file/nnohxn)

Have a nice gameplay:gratz

[vivaxardas]

Thanks. For you guys who really wants to play Returning, it's a way to go. Returning is big, real big. So it's a lot to translate. Also Returning is still in development (mostly re-balancins, some minor bugs), patch 1.2 is coming. But 1.1 version is already very stable, with no logical inconsistences, and allows to finish a game without cheats. When the good version of the translation will be ready is hard to say.

Returning is a fan-made add-on. It makes Gothic 2 NOTR twice longer, with a very long additional story, A LOT OF new quests, new fractions, new locations on the old territories, adds a lot of new territoties, redesigns and enlarges the Valley of Mines, and adds one more chapter - you can return to Khorinis in Chapter 7, and liberate it from the orcs.
Returning is super-duper hard-core, so most of youy guys will learn to live with Marvin and love it.

important: This mode has two versions - install as EXE, or install as MOD. MOD version works as any mod - you can play original G2 and other mods, and start Returning from GothicStarter. EXE version overwrites EXE file, and it works as a real add-on. You do not need to have GothicStarter installed. If you use Vista, EXE may be preferable. On my Vista GothicStarter does not work at all. You chose what version you want during installation process. Both 1.0 and 1.1 should be installed in the same way - either both EXE, or both MOD.

Main Page (russian language):
http://returning.worldofgothic.ru/

Screenshots:
http://returning.worldofgothic.ru/screenshots1

Here is a link to a walkthrough (russian language):
http://forum.worldofgothic.ru/index.php/board,322.0.html

[Gothic!]

I have a question. Does this mod work with the English version of Gothic 2 Gold? I am trying to install it, but I can't select anything for it.

[vivaxardas]

I think you will need to use this patch:

http://www.worldofgothic.com/dl/?go=dlfile&fileid=122

to turn G2Gold from 2.7 into 2.6. Otherwise you can't install G2MDK.

[Korianous]

Our own patch, available here (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=598708) will also get you taken care of ;).

[Gothic!]

Yes my version was incorrect but, I was able to install the mod with the patch so thank you. I still have a problem, while the mod works, I get a lot of lagging in it. My PC kind of sucks so I don't know if it could handle the mod that well. I wish I could have played this without too much problems with stuttering and lagging.

[vivaxardas]

Well, they changed a lot of textures from 256 x 256 to 512 x 512. It made things kind of intense. Because people complained, somebody uploaded a file with old textures. I couldn't find an original link, so I uploaded this file again. Here is a link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/232747014/TEXTURES_OLD.7z

Just unzip and drop into DATA folder. There is a read-me in the archive.

[Gothic!]

So all I have to do is put "TEXTURES_OLD.vdf" into the Data files? What about the other text file? I got the mod working. I have version 1.1 with the english patch on and it's fine, but I still am having trouble due to the upgraded textures in the mod. They are still there.

[Korianous]

If I'm not mistaken, the textures are created by the .mod file itself. Idk how much you can do about that :dnuhr:.

[vivaxardas]

It is said in the Read-me that you may need to find and delete VDFS.DMP for ехе-version, or vdfs_returning_mod.dmp for Mod-version.
Text-file is a Read-me.
I do not know too much about it, but I think you can force a game to update VDF system, and this will include and use new files from this patch. Something about loading priorities.

[Gothic!]

It is said in the Read-me that you may need to find and delete VDFS.DMP for ехе-version, or vdfs_returning_mod.dmp for Mod-version.
Text-file is a Read-me.
I do not know too much about it, but I think you can force a game to update VDF system, and this will include and use new files from this patch. Something about loading priorities.

Hmmm, I've tried deleting vdfs_returning_mod.dmp for the mod version but that didn't seem to do anything even with the old textures.vdf file.
I don't really know how I could force the game to change the graphics like you said. Could you explain to me how to do that? Would I have to delete the file and then reinstall the mod version of returning?

[vivaxardas]

Well, probably, it changed textures, but did not make too much difference for performance. Then the only thing you can do is to reduce your graphic settings in the menu (reduce resolution, details, viewing distance and such), and also to turn off music. It will help.

[catalinux]

I finally managed to install Returning! At some point I had to manually select a script in the GothicVDFS (to bild somethind like "exe vdf"?) but it worked just fine.

I haven't yet installed that "pseudo English patch" (I hope it will translate the mod in English as I don't understand a single word in Russian) but I wanted to say that I love the "Gothic 1" style of the menu, inventory and character screen! Nice work!

I will "return" later with more impressions.;)

P.S. There is some kind of problem - it seems there is no audio for some dialogs, those from the addon and from the Returning.

[Dino]

Ah.... nothing else expected from the Russians. I know about this bad-ass mod for some time now. But I never really gave it a try. Also, I can understand most of the words in Russian. But don't ask me to translate, I can't. Its because Bulgarian and Russian are close. Never the less, that doesn't make it the same language.

[catalinux]

I think the mod is great - but the English translation...:rolleyes: is hard to understand, nearly impossible. Anyway... I'll write more after progressing in the game ;)

P.S. to the creators of the mod: maybe you should create different installers - one with the vdf and one with the mod. It seems it's difficult/impossible to install Returning if you don't have the Akella version - I had to manually select the scripts in the GothicVDFS to create the .vdf and .mod files. And I also don't have the speech for Returning (I created the speech mod but I still don't have the speech - and the speech mod is correctly assigned in the English .ini)

[vivaxardas]

Translation is in progress, but it will take time. I am the only one doing it. Right now I can't spend too much time on it (my job and such), but in Summer I'll have 10 weeks of vacation time. :)

[MaGoth]

I think the mod is great - but the English translation...:rolleyes: is hard to understand, nearly impossible. Anyway... I'll write more after progressing in the game ;)

P.S. to the creators of the mod: maybe you should create different installers - one with the vdf and one with the mod. It seems it's difficult/impossible to install Returning if you don't have the Akella version - I had to manually select the scripts in the GothicVDFS to create the .vdf and .mod files. And I also don't have the speech for Returning (I created the speech mod but I still don't have the speech - and the speech mod is correctly assigned in the English .ini)

Hmm... :rolleyes:

Addon will be installed without any problems if there is you - the licensed version of the game. :D

1. Before you install this addon, make sure you have G2MDK and G2MDK-patch 2.6a.
Then, follow the instructions on the screen. Neither are the windows installer program does not cover (!).

2. If you have a game license, but when you install the add button - "Ok", is not active. Exit the install, and update the program GOTHIC2 Player Kit to version 2.6f.
Then again, try to install addon.

Ps. Dialogues addon sounded partially (~ 25%).
Also make sure that before installing the add on your HDD with a game GOTHIC2-NoTR enough free space. It is necessary, not less - 5 GB.

Pss. Hi vivaxardas... §wink


MfG MaGoth, WoG.ru-Community. :gratz

[jimokalos]

Translation is in progress, but it will take time. I am the only one doing it. Right now I can't spend too much time on it (my job and such), but in Summer I'll have 10 weeks of vacation time. :)

BTW:Vivaxardas,I had given you some translated dialogues some time ago,did you recieve them? BTW:I just have exams at school and I can't help you atm.So I am afraid you will have to do it alone.

[catalinux]

Hmm... :rolleyes:

Addon will be installed without any problems if there is you - the licensed version of the game. :D

1. Before you install this addon, make sure you have G2MDK and G2MDK-patch 2.6a.
Then, follow the instructions on the screen. Neither are the windows installer program does not cover (!).

2. If you have a game license, but when you install the add button - "Ok", is not active. Exit the install, and update the program GOTHIC2 Player Kit to version 2.6f.
Then again, try to install addon.

Ps. Dialogues addon sounded partially (~ 25%).
Also make sure that before installing the add on your HDD with a game GOTHIC2-NoTR enough free space. It is necessary, not less - 5 GB.

I have licensed versions for both English and German (but I must admit first time I installed Returning on an Akella version - it was like a backup copy some friend made of his original CDs:gratz) and I have something like 40 GB freespace.

Those are the steps:

# gothic2_playerkit-2.6f;
# g2mdk-2.6_small ("basis");
# g2mdk-2.6a;
# addon_returning-1.0;
# addon_returning-1.1;
# Returning11_pseudoenglish_patch

At some point during the install of the addon_returning I have to manually select in GothicVDFS the script for creating the ADDON_RETURNING.vdf (maybe because I am using Linux and I am playing Gothic with Wine). But this is not a problem and the addon Returning is successfully installed.

I can play it there is absolutely no problem. Only the fact that I don't have the speech for Returning (the ADDON_RETURNING.vdf has 862.3 MB the speech files are in there). The same goes if I create the .mod instead of the .vdf.

"Dialogues addon sounded partially (~ 25%)" means that not all the Returning dialogues have correspondent speech?

Anyway... I can play Returning. I was only curious why I can't hear the speech from Returning.

I hope you will manage to translate the addon Returning I haven't played yet for too much but I liked it so far!

I will write more impressions as I will advance in the game.

[MaGoth]

I have licensed versions for both English and German (but I must admit first time I installed Returning on an Akella version - it was like a backup copy some friend made of his original CDs:gratz) and I have something like 40 GB freespace.
Then for this part, no more questions. :)



Those are the steps:

# gothic2_playerkit-2.6f;
# g2mdk-2.6_small ("basis");
# g2mdk-2.6a;
# addon_returning-1.0;
# addon_returning-1.1;
# Returning11_pseudoenglish_patch

The sequence of the installation is correct. ;)



At some point during the install of the addon_returning I have to manually select in GothicVDFS the script for creating the ADDON_RETURNING.vdf (maybe because I am using Linux and I am playing Gothic with Wine). But this is not a problem and the addon Returning is successfully installed.

I can play it there is absolutely no problem. Only the fact that I don't have the speech for Returning (the ADDON_RETURNING.vdf has 862.3 MB the speech files are in there). The same goes if I create the .mod instead of the .vdf.
This must not be likely in this is your problem. :rolleyes:

The installer will addon, not been tested for compatibility with OS Linux. On this I have nothing to help you not be able to actually play is also not adapted to the correct working of the system. :(



"Dialogues addon sounded partially (~ 25%)" means that not all the Returning dialogues have correspondent speech?
Yes, :)



Anyway... I can play Returning. I was only curious why I can't hear the speech from Returning.

I hope you will manage to translate the addon Returning I haven't played yet for too much but I liked it so far!

I will write more impressions as I will advance in the game.
You may need to update your sound card driver? :rolleyes:

Please write a path to the root directory where you installed the game GOTHIC2-NoTR.
For example, I have this:
F:\Program Files\Akella Games\Gothic II

Do you?


MfG MaGoth, WoG.ru-Community. :gratz

[catalinux]

I can hear the speech from the original Gothic II NodR. What I can't hear is the speech from Returning. For example, when I talk to Xardas in the beginning I have the speech when talking about the eye of innos but I don't have the speech when he tells me I must return to the temple of the sleeper to get the uriziel. Then when I talk with the keeper I also have no speech. I can't hear only the speech from the Returning, the speech from original Gothic I can hear. So the problem is not my soundcard.

The path... in my linux is something like \home\.wine\drive_c\ProgramFiles\Akella Games\Gothic II\ but for Gothic is still C:\Program Files\Akella Games\Gothic II\ (Gothic doesn't know he is on Linux he believes he is on Windows;)

It doesn't matter the path if the Gothic II main directory is still there. I can play Returning by copying the ADDON_RETURNING.vdf in the /Data folder of any installation (Akella, Jowood English or German)

I asked about the speech because I thought maybe somebody else had the same problem. But it doesn't really matter as long as I can play the game.

[vivaxardas]

There is no speech there. How can it be? These are completely new dialogue lines, and who is going to record them? Original actors are not available, obviously. The same problem with many mods - no speech for NPCs from the game. That's why in another thread I am asking for a program to make computer-generated master voices for Xardas, Saturas, and others, to use it in TTS program for recording, and computer-generated dubbing.

[catalinux]

There is some speech there. There are something like 300 MB of speech. But maybe I haven't yet found the dialogues that have speech.

[duan1]

can anyone please help me which quest i do to get the key open the door to see lord hagen in gothic returning(russian addon)

[vivaxardas]

You do not need a key. As soon as you join the guild, the door will be open.

BTW, a spoiler - some plot things are changed a little bit: If you want to join Water mages, you do not need to see Hagen for ornament. Somebody else has it.

[duan1]

after joined militia went to see lord hagen but the door still locked. is it buged or do i have to do some quest?(i play gothic returning russian mod0

[vivaxardas]

I don't know. I checked today - there was no problem. I joined militia, talked to Andre about everything, put on militia armor, went to the Upper Quarter, and the door was opened. Guard stopped me, and I told that I was a member of the militia.
Try to reload an old save. May be it will help.

[Korianous]

(i play gothic returning russian mod0

I think you already made that clear given the thread and your first couple of posts ;).

[duan1]

can any please tell me where to find sphere of water air and darkness for cross elements thanks

[MaGoth]

can any please tell me where to find sphere of water air and darkness for cross elements thanks
Hi, :)

All sphere are in the Valley of Mines (Minental), namely:
1. The sphere of fire is located in the Old Mine (located near the parking ore)
If a more accurate near a park, which is beyond the river, and which is one of the quest characters Grimes (miner; quest for the guild of merchants) Having more parking, we can see the stairs through the hill, and behold them mine!

2. The sphere of water is located in an abandoned coal mine (near passage Khorinis - Minental)
Located above the output of Minental, there on the hill still wanders Troll, and the entrance guarded by two skeletons!

3. Sphere of darkness is in the flooded tower (well, it is clear)


4. Sphere of rock is in the Swamp Camp (behind the wall Horde)
It went over the wall, turn and hold the right hand and reaches the swamp camp!


MfG MaGoth, WoG.ru-Community. :gratz

[Zelazko]

Where can I find assassin called A- something after I kill guy named Luis?

Edit: I've found hideout of this fellow.

[duan1]

please tell me where is darkness sphere in valleyof mine?

[vivaxardas]

I don't remember which one is where. Here are 4 places:
1. Abandoned mine
2. Old mine
3. Sunked tower of Xardas
4. Swamp camp (behing the wall), in the Temple

[Deferigon]

What darkness spheres?

[Korianous]

Moved to Gothic Modding section, and merged with the Returning Thread.

[vivaxardas]

What darkness spheres?

Quest from a dragon in Jankendar. After you defeat Raven, you find a focus stone. It activates a teleport in the ruins. By the teleport you go to the golden dragon (a good dragon).

[duan1]

thanks vivaxardas i have one more question in chapter7
where can i find spirit of fire spirit of water, stone puma ?
i found the shadow stone how can i kill it
thanks

[tonyskate]

thanks vivaxardas i have one more question in chapter7
where can i find spirit of fire spirit of water, stone puma ?
i found the shadow stone how can i kill it
thanks

Stone Puma is near dragon in Jharkendar, take a look behind the rocks.

If you mean by shadow stone, shadow golem in tower near lighthouse, you can simply kill him by Light [spell].

[duan1]

thanks please tell me spirit of fire where is it i try to the instruction but no idea and run around and around

[vivaxardas]

You need to use a teleport in the pyramid region in order to get to a new undergroung location. In that location we are running in all directions, and fight with five creatures (the last of them is a spirit of fire). After we defeat him, we use a teleport to get back.

[duan1]

thanks but i saw that teleport not working how can i activate it?

[vivaxardas]

Well, it should work after you talk with the forth keeper. The one on the plato near the ruins, not far from Jack's lighthouse. I don't remember activating it.

[jimokalos]

Sorry but please put such things into spoilers cause many people haven't played it and don't want to know them.

[bergo]

This mod seems to be great. I'll try the original Russian version.

Edit: The game is very, very hard.
Patch 1.2 was realized but it's not free

[migwell]

To install pseudo English patch you must download and install in order:

1)G2MDK

2 )G2MDK Patch v2.6a

3) GothicStarter Update

4) Version 1.0 of the mod also available here

5) Version 1.1 of the mod

6) Pseudo English patch

Have a nice gameplay

I have installed and uninstalled 3 times now and followed this procedure. Initially, I had the Velaya mod included, so I uninstalled everything... and have used the 2.60 fix before everything since I have US Gold version 2.7.

Each time, however, I get through the credits with a nice Russian voice-over and when the actual game (New Game selected from the NOTR loading screen) is ready to start, I crash to desktop.

Message this time: D:MDL:(zModelProto::(Load3DSMAXAsc)
:Asc not found:ARMOR_GUARDIAN-ASC

I may not have the punctuation in that error message totally correct. So, what's up with that? This is a totally clean install with no other mods.

[migwell]

Oh, OK, I think I solved this... not only do I not understand Russian, but lack the Cyrillic characters as well, so when I did the mod install, I clicked NEITHER box indicating 'mod' or 'exe'. Simple as that!

[migwell]

Next question: I recently finished Velaya, which has a similar installation, and had no music playing during the game at all. I thought it was part of the mod, but just as I finished up, I found out it was my own problem.

So, I'm playing Returning now and also getting no music. For example, the band in Khorinis makes no sound and there is no in-game music at all. I have checked and changed all my in-game audio settings and fiddled in the .ini as well.

The sound turns out to be there, but is inauduible at normal sound levels. (If I stand next to the musician in the Tavern, for example, and turn the sound on my amplifier way up, I can hear the guitar, but all other sounds are way too loud). Odd.

Edit: This is a Vista problem and there is a patch available here on WoG. Gothic2-VistaSP1 Backgroundmusic-Patch.

[migwell]

Hmmm... this mod is outrageously difficult. I'm not having much fun with my extremely underpowered character in the early going.

How hard is it? I took a quest from Valentino to beat up Regis only to discover that Regis can kill me in one blow (dead, not just injured). Well, OK, I'm only at level 4, but just to see how many times I would have to hit him before he went down, I went into GOD Mode. And he killed me! I must have hit him 100 times! Brutal!

It looks like beating people up is out, since no matter what you do, they die... I mean I have fireballs, which work too well. And arrows. And then you try to finish them off with sword, but they die.

Of course, I want to play the mod since it seems so far well-made and with a lot of extra game-play, but like everyone who plays games, I really don't like to feel frustrated over and over. That's just not any fun.

[vivaxardas]

People die if you stab them (with a sword, or a dugger). If you use a club, they just loose cnsciousness as in original game.
I never played Returning without a GOD mod - I always wanted to do new quests, and to get to chapter 7 sooner. Even with GOD mode a lot of places were very time-consuming, and I just used KILL command. Also I increased my stats by cheats, and got the best weapons from the start.
Returning is extremely unballanced. Probably a dicksizing thing from the modmakers, but it is just silly.

[Tratos]

..and bugged. I followed up on their forums as a guest in its (the mod) early days, something like 2 days after release, and they had so many bugs. Kilometres of threads were needed to guide the player and make it possible to finish the game at all.

[vivaxardas]

1.1 patch fixed most of them (at least the ones that prevented progression of the story), but the balance became even more crazy. Without cheats this 1.1 version of this mod is virually non-playable, though much more stable then 1.0. The funniest thing is the number of orcs in the Valley of Mines - like 500 in total, or even more. They really wanted it to be an army.:) And all of them respawn in Ch. 3... At some point I just said "Screw it!", and used KILL command all the time.
New quests and territories are rather interesting though. This mod is worth finishing at least once. I played as a necromancer, and as a water mage. May be one day I'll play it as a templar.

[migwell]

Probably a dicksizing thing from the modmakers, but it is just silly.

Funny comments you made and now I feel better about the small amount of 'marvin' I have used so far. (I gave myself an amulet and ring so that I wouldn't have to wait for level 6 to put on leather armor and could kill a wolf.)

I am noticing how odd the balancing is already, not always super-hard, just mostly. So the only way to do Ignaz' quest (the oblivion scroll) or Valentino's quest (give Regis a beating) is to use a club and go in God Mode? That would be about 250 hits, and they kill you in 1!!!

I couldn't believe it when I died in God Mode...

These guys should learn something from Velaya, a very well done, polished and balanced mod. Still, I am grateful for it despite its flaws.

[migwell]

Well, I'm playing along and have reached Jarkendar, but I don't think I could recommend this mod to anyone.

Obviously, the balance is all wrong, and many quests are broken or seriously delayed. I've become a mage, for example, but must wear bandit armor to continue the story, but the strength requirements in order to wear this armor are so high that I would have to work up 3 levels (a much slower process in this mod) and put all my LP into Strength, which my character doesn't need... although I desperately need more mana.

Also, I wouldn't have gotten this far without cheating, and that means the mod is broken in my book. Having played all this way, I have yet to discover if any of the 'added content' that the mod introduces is actually any good. I have encountered lots of new NPC's and camps, but the interactions so far have all been long-winded and pointless.

Verdict: Don't Bother.

[vivaxardas]

Yes, ballance does not make any freaking sense. And 1001 respawing orcs in VoM also. Just KILL, KILL, KILL... That's why people should play with cheats, and raise stats with cheated potions. I mean do not bother to play it w/o cheats, but otherwise it is a good mod.
There are many quest-lines:
Keepers (all this history around them suck, but quests are good enough)
Merchants guild - quests are good
Assassins - I did not like it, but there are a bunch of new quests
Hunters - well, ok
Brotherhood
Dragon in Jankendar - good
Valley of Mines - redesigned, a lot of stuff added
And there is chapter 7, when you return to Khorinis to libirate it from the orcs
and so on.
They added at least 50 hours of gameplay with extra content. Now it will take probably ~100 hours to finish G2.

[migwell]

Cheating is a slippery slope, and once you turn God Mode on, why turn it off? When I started the mod, I tried to keep cheats to a minimum, so as not to spoil the challenge, but after putting lots of hours into it, I'm now cheating like crazy just to stay afloat.

As a mage, I need those potions and they cost money, so I've probably given myself 30,000 gold to keep going, and now I'm piling on the LP as well- 'rebalancing' the game on the fly and with all that, it's still hard! I have got it so that I haven't had to use God Mode very much, though.

The question is, is it worth the effort? Like I said, all I've gotten out of the 'extra content' is a lot of boring chit-chat and all the unbalancing is a pain in the ass, and I'm pretty well along in the story.

I would have to say that your assessment of the extra content is not exactly a ringing endorsement- seems like what I have to look forward to is lots of respawning orcs!

I'm in Jarkendar now, doing the usual stuff and the mod so far doesn't seem to have messed with this section of the game very much, so it is more enjoyable.

[vivaxardas]

Well, if you don't like it - don't play it. I know some people who didn't like Returning. Sometimes dialogues are way too long, and I did not bother to read them. I played it only for extra-content. Some new quests are nice. Also it was interesting to see what things modders added, and how they did it, like karma thing, or endurance. Personally, I like stand-alone mods more. :)

[migwell]

'Well, if you don't like it - don't play it.'

Yes indeed, I am taking your advice. I had hoped at some point that some interesting extra content would be added, but now I've made it into the Valley of Mines without having found anything interesting at all.

Sure, there's a dragon in Jarkendar, but what does he do? Talks a lot, that's what... That seems to be how it goes. My feeling about this mod now is that even if it were properly balanced, it is actually not worth playing anyway.

[vivaxardas]

Well, all new quests in Returning are of the same kind as in original G2NOTR. Some quests are long and rather interesting, but it is more of the same, like practically every Gothic mod in general (with some rare exceptions).

[migwell]

As you mention, stand alone mods can certainly be more interesting (Velaya and Dicurric certainly are).

But Dark Mysteries is a mod of the same sort as Returning which actually adds a lot of really good, interesting new content and involved, fulfilling quests and NPC's with personalities. It really fills out the G1 world and provides tons of new gameplay while not messing with the game balance... Too bad it is still a little buggy.

Tir Nan Og? I've been there too!

[vivaxardas]

I like Dark Mysteries very much.
Global mod (another russian mod for G2) is better then Returning, imho. It adds one very large territory, Valley of Ancestors, and a completely new plot-line to G2. Also it incorporates a german mod Dunkle Magie, and couple of other mods. It is in russian only, but a later version probably will be translated into English.

[tonyskate]

I like Dark Mysteries very much.
Global mod (another russian mod for G2) is better then Returning, imho. It adds one very large territory, Valley of Ancestors, and a completely new plot-line to G2. Also it incorporates a german mod Dunkle Magie, and couple of other mods. It is in russian only, but a later version probably will be translated into English.

Maybe somebody could make ''pseudo-english'' patch for Global Mod like for Returning before.

[catalinux]

Hy! I'm playing Returning for some days. It is a great mod, probably the most complex so far, but I have a problem. The pseudo-English translation is hard to understand. I was wondering if somebody is still working at a better translation. Returning deserve a good translation, every Gothic fan should be able to play it.

[Korianous]

That's why it's a pseudo-english patch ;). Vivaxardas was working on a translation some time ago, idk what his level of progress is.

[vivaxardas]

Yes, I am still working on translation. I am doing it all by myself, so it is kind of slow. I hope to finish in Fall.

[MaGoth]

Maybe somebody could make ''pseudo-english'' patch for Global Mod like for Returning before.
Hi, :)
Do not do that. We (MAGIC-Team), will be against any of our automatic translation modification. And if this version will be posted on the forum, we are likely to require removal of this version with the forum.
It was a decision the team. :rolleyes:


MfG MaGoth, WoG.ru-Community. :gratz

[Dino]

Hi, :)
Do not do that. We (MAGIC-Team), will be against any of our automatic translation modification. And if this version will be posted on the forum, we are likely to require removal of this version with the forum.
It was a decision the team. :rolleyes:


MfG MaGoth, WoG.ru-Community. :gratz

Are you saying that if somebody makes an english translation you'll request it's removal? I didn't quite get what you meant. Sry

[Korianous]

Are you saying that if somebody makes an english translation you'll request it's removal? I didn't quite get what you meant. Sry

I believe this meant that they do not want a Pseudo-English patch. The Pseudo English patch for Returning was pretty much unintelligible, and likely not reflect the quality of the mod's storyline etc.

[catalinux]

The Pseudo English patch for Returning was pretty much unintelligible, and likely not reflect the quality of the mod's storyline etc.

The translation is hard to understand. They could use the original English scripts, but I guess they did the mod using the Russian version. So they had to translate also the original content. It would have been better to use the original English scripts and to translate only the Returning scripts.

Returning is a great (but extremely unbalanced, I had to edit attributes to play it) mod, I think it deserves a good English translation.

[vivaxardas]

They developed this mod for Russia, so they used russian localization. That's why translation takes so long - I have to copy and paste english dialogues and everything in english into Returning scripts.

[Tratos]

They developed this mod for Russia, so they used russian localization. That's why translation takes so long - I have to copy and paste english dialogues and everything in english into Returning scripts.

Yes, but didn't MaGoth say he doesn't want an English translation?

[vivaxardas]

They do not want a machine translation made without their approval. They want their mods translated, but translation should be authorised by the team.

[Dino]

They developed this mod for Russia, so they used russian localization. That's why translation takes so long - I have to copy and paste english dialogues and everything in english into Returning scripts.

So, how much of the mod have you translated already?
Anyway, I wish I could help but I don't know Russian. I mean I can understand most of the things, since it's close to my language, but it's not the same. And I can't translate at all.

[dippsydenejkine]

Hey guys, I can help with the translation, I know mediocre Russian (I am Russian, that is why), but I know perfect English.

[akiman94]

I think it is very stupid if there are mods with other languages, except english. I am from Serbia. I am planning to make a mod with Serbian language, but I would 100% sure translate it to English. Serbian for Serbs, English for all other people.

[Korianous]

I think it is very stupid if there are mods with other languages, except english. I am from Serbia. I am planning to make a mod with Serbian language, but I would 100% sure translate it to English. Serbian for Serbs, English for all other people.

I think you should not gravedig without merit. Also, you're completely wrong.

Gothic is a German game, so naturally most of the modding community is there. It also sold well in Russia & Poland, thus the modding communities are very healthy there. People will write a mod in their own native language, so people around them can play & enjoy it. Hence translations for an English-speaking community in which Gothic has not sold as well is only a secondary priority.

[Sorinash]

hey sup dipssydenejkine?i know u from youtube,ur a LPer lol,i like ur LPing very much :) and how do u know russian? i tought ur australian or so i saw at ur description on youtube(i slightly remember so i can be wrong),btw im new on forum,hi guys :D

EDIT: umm i installed the Returning mod but when i press New Game after half loaded it crashes and gives an error message (i forgot what it said in that message),does anybody know how to solve this problem please? :(

[ApocaliptioGod]

any news about the translation of the mod (% complteted ? ) ? :D

[catalinux]

any news about the translation of the mod (% complteted ? ) ? :D

As far as a know they are working on a new version of Returning, so we also should expect a delay of the translation.

[Sorinash]

any news? i could do with a mod right now,i got very bored these days :D

[Colmar]

I've finished today Returning mod, here my impressions:


the beginning was very very very hard, and also some other moments, so I had to use cheats, but in the rest of the mod I played without cheats and I really enjoyed this
about the pseudo-translation, I had real problems only with few dialogues/quest, and in these cases I utilized the walkthrough in russian WoP, very useful
i chose a "warrior's way" since I knew that the mod is quite difficult (sometimes almost impossible :D) and mage's way is more difficult (how use learning points, which magic use etc etc); now that I know which are the faction options the next time I'll definitely choose "mage's way" :)
I had problems with the relation between factions/chapter... when do some quest, for example of the Keepers, and so on, there aren't many clues about this :dnuhr:
I really like the new areas, both those from Gothic 1 and the new ones, maybe the orc city can be improved with more quests (at least I went there sometimes only to talk to the Orc leader and to reach the Valley of Shadow)
the last chapter is a great surprise, but maybe there too many necessary passages from an area to another to another one....

[raz180490]

I've installed the pseudo patch (technically), but none of the russian texts are translated. NONE! Not even the menus. I followed the installation steps just right, i chose to replace the gothic2.exe file, and the game runs well, no crashes and such, only that it's in russian :|

Help?

[Lonewulf]

Hi raz180490

First, excuse my bad english. ;)


I've installed the pseudo patch (technically), but none of the russian texts are translated. NONE! Not even the menus. I followed the installation steps just right, i chose to replace the gothic2.exe file, and the game runs well, no crashes and such, only that it's in russian :|

Help?
1.
Have you installed Returning correctly as "MOD"? (The in green highlighted options in the picture: http://upload.worldofplayers.de/files3/K95zgZNOWkVUoNdMAyeInstallauswahl.jpg?

2.
Then install only the PEP (Returning11_pseudoenglish_07 (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=13525392&#post13525392)), not the HotFix. The fixes are already included in the PEP.

[raz180490]

Thank you for the reply, Lonewulf. I followed the installation steps just as in I should have, i chose to replace the .exe files, since installing it via the mod starter didn't even launch the mod... The patch still didn't work for me, so I gave up. I learned that the English patch is quite poor so I don't really want to get annoyed over it... So I'll just wait for a new patch and give the mod a try then!

Thank you anyway for your help!

[Lonewulf]

Thank you for the reply, Lonewulf. I followed the installation steps just as in I should have, i chose to replace the .exe files, since installing it via the mod starter didn't even launch the mod... The patch still didn't work for me, so I gave up. I learned that the English patch is quite poor so I don't really want to get annoyed over it... So I'll just wait for a new patch and give the mod a try then!

Thank you anyway for your help!
If you use Vista/Win7, you must run "GothicStarter.exe" as "Administrator" (via: Right-Mousebutton)

[raz180490]

Yes, I do use Win 7, and I checked the "Run as administrator" box but it still won't work.

I read on the readme file of the pseudoenglish patch that I have to modify a command line in one of the .ini files? I couldn't understand though, I don't speak German...

EDIT: Oh and also, I can't save any game at all. It just won't, when I select a slot for a new save game it just jumps back to the game... I can't even begin to type a name for the savegame or anything...

[ApocaliptioGod]

I have a litle problem....I'm in chapter 2,just finished jackendar...and i do my usuall xp from beat citizens,farmers (lobarts,akill) ..and did the same thing at onar's farm...beat every farmer, every merchenary and when i speak to lee he tells me that every one in onars farm want my head , and he can do nothing to help me and all the camp atacks and kill me.
I've trtied to change the guild to mercenary/dragon hunter...they still atack me (dont know what to do... )
any suggestions?

[Lonewulf]

@ ApocaliptioGod


I have a litle problem....I'm in chapter 2,just finished jackendar...and i do my usuall xp from beat citizens,farmers (lobarts,akill) ..and did the same thing at onar's farm...beat every farmer, every merchenary and when i speak to lee he tells me that every one in onars farm want my head , and he can do nothing to help me and all the camp atacks and kill me.
I've trtied to change the guild to mercenary/dragon hunter...they still atack me (dont know what to do... )
any suggestions?
Your last chance is to speak with Gravo (at Orlans tavern). He can help you for a lot of money.

~~~~~~

@ raz180490


Yes, I do use Win 7, and I checked the "Run as administrator" box but it still won't work. Only the pseudoenglishpatch, or Returning in general?


I read on the readme file of the pseudoenglish patch that I have to modify a command line in one of the .ini files? I couldn't understand though, I don't speak German...Open ".\gothic II\system\RETURNING_mod.ini" with a text editor, and modify line 73.

original:
VDF=RETURNING_mod.mod
modify to:
VDF=RETURNING_mod.mod Returning11_pseudoenglish_07.mod

Between both filenames must be "exactly" 2 spaces.

[Landros]

Huston... we've got a problem!

I love your mod guys! The greatest in my opinion (for G2 at least). And I find myself in the nasty situation of having formatted my computer, wanting to play your mod some more... and... having no way to download it. The provided link doesn't work anymore. So... could you guys provide another one? If yes, much obliged... if not, could I... use a greater number of "please"?

Thank you in advance.

P.S. It would be nice to have the 1.1 patch as well if its not asking to much.

[Eiskönig]

Huston... we've got a problem!

I love your mod guys! The greatest in my opinion (for G2 at least). And I find myself in the nasty situation of having formatted my computer, wanting to play your mod some more... and... having no way to download it. The provided link doesn't work anymore. So... could you guys provide another one? If yes, much obliged... if not, could I... use a greater number of "please"?

Thank you in advance.

P.S. It would be nice to have the 1.1 patch as well if its not asking to much.

In this (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1093210-Gothic-II-Die-R%C3%BCckkehr-Hilfe-Info-und-Diskussionsthread-28?p=17952824&viewfull=1#post17952824this) post you will find different links.;)
The links from wordlofgothic.ru are working.

[Landros]

Eiskönig! Many thanks!

So... finally! I can burn more neurons with exasperation while the bloody wolves repeatedly eat me alive! Joy!!! :D This wonderful mod truly brings out the masochist in all gothic fans... :D

btw... if I remember correctly, a few guys were working on a new and improved translation of the mod. Do you guys know if they are still doing it?

P.S. Lonewolf... this time I remembered trowing in "two" spaces for the pseudo-english patch! :D

[mike4love]

I know this is a really old post, but I have tried everything, followed every single inst tutorial, but I cannot manage to get it work ... the mod works excelent, maybe it hase to do something with the operating system? I use W7 utimate(tried privilege settings) .If someone knows something and he´s willing to help, please help me, I really want to play this mod. Thank you!

[Eiskönig]

I know this is a really old post, but I have tried everything, followed every single inst tutorial, but I cannot manage to get it work ... the mod works excelent, maybe it hase to do something with the operating system? I use W7 utimate(tried privilege settings) .If someone knows something and he´s willing to help, please help me, I really want to play this mod. Thank you!

The Timestamp in the PEP has running out at the end of march 2012. So the old version will not work for new installations. Lonewulf has today uploaded a new version of the PEP.
So make a try with the new version.

[mike4love]

Thank you Eiskönig (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/members/83861-Eisk%C3%B6nig) for the replay. I have tried with pep 08, modifyed the .ini file, but still nothing. Is there a newer pep version? If there is, well google didn´t help, so please leave me a download link .... tnx



EDIT: nerver mind! I found it, I had to translate it and saw repack2, the name of the file. I will try install it again, and i´ll be back :) .

[mike4love]

It works with wolf´s last fix, so thank you a bunch! This may sound silly, how do you raise your stamina? I´ve started playing and I keep dying after killing a beast :).

[Eiskönig]

It works with wolf´s last fix, so thank you a bunch! This may sound silly, how do you raise your stamina? I´ve started playing and I keep dying after killing a beast :).

You can find a lot of information about the game in general in this (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1093210-Gothic-II-Die-R%C3%BCckkehr-Hilfe-Info-und-Diskussionsthread-28?p=17952830&viewfull=1#post17952830) post from Lonewulf in Section A and later the very good Questguides from Biesterkiller in Section C.
Use Googletranslate to read (Information for stamina/endurance under "Ausdauer".)
In short you will raise stamina +1 with every levelup and by reading special stone tables (possible without learning old language from the watermages). Also every trollberry will give +1 constantly.
You can also train stamina with special teachers but this is not useful, because you can reach the maximum 100 with levelups, trollberries and stone tables.
You can fill up lost stamina by sleeping, eat food or special herts.
The first task is to reach the city as quickly as you can. If your stamina is down you will lose health til death. So avoid fights at the beginning and use later scrolls (firearrows are very effectiv) or a bow. The first levels are a real struggle !