Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods • Patch 1.07

[jimokalos]

It is released but for now only the german version! http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index.php?go=downloads&file_id=357

The english version has arrived! http://www.gamershell.com/news_66904.html

np!:D Remember you have to reinstall the game before you install the patch!It doesnt support older save games!

[Kostaz]

Lets see if this one does any good.Thanks Jim
96MB zip I'll post the change log as soon as I download it.

[Xardasrule]

Hy Guys! Is this a Cumulative Patch? ;)

[Shadow]

any change log?

[Kostaz]

Can't find the change log lol
Gonna edit as soon as I find it.


QUESTS AND ENVIRONMENT
- Cannot find "Paladin General" for completing Lee quest Fixed
- Milten leaves the summoner's cave; Nobody in Vengard throne room after kiling the beast. Fixed
- The pranksters are fighting each-other. Fixed
- The ork warriors from Cape Dun have their bodies doubled Fixed
- Urbanus artifact quest Fixed
- Orc camp appears only after Inog gives you the quest Fixed
- Menu disappears when roasting meat Fixed
- Paladin Helmet is still present in game Fixed
- Theodor Sack of wheat blocker Fixed
- Milten remain blocked in the woods Fixed
- Floating box in Vengard Fixed
- Floating oil lamps in Vengard Fixed
- Theo's chest is properly placed Fixed
- Ogit leaves Montera Fixed
- Erthag and Ogit are walking trough the walls of a building. Fixed
- Hard coded english strings -now in the string table. Fixed
- Duplicate models removed Fixed
- Army of Gotha fighting among themselves. Fixed
- Erhag and Urbanus start fighting with each other Fixed
- NPCs fighting with each other during Hamlars escort mission Fixed

GENERAL

- Fixed Focus Names over 90%
- Text issues resolved over 90%
- German VO issues resolved over 90%
- NPC's in a group will not fight each other

[jimokalos]

Here it is! http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index.php?go=downloads&file_id=357 edit:As far as i can see most of the bugs have been fixed with that!

[Kostaz]

It's not as big as I expected/wanted.
Most fixes are for main quest breaking bugs.
I updated without reinstalling.

- Paladin Helmet is still present in game Fixed
What about fire chalices ?

- Fixed Focus Names over 90%
- Text issues resolved over 90%
That's the best.

- German Voice Over issues resolved over 90%
No love for English fans?:(

Conclusion:Not convinced, I hope this is not the full changelog.

[jimokalos]

Nope,i found it in the German forum!Dont worry!

Can someone help me please.I installed the patch but it doesnt work! It shows me this error message: http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/f2a4f8df0e.jpg (http://www.fotorola.com/) Can someone tell me please how can i fix it?

[Petyamester]

I'm still waiting for the real patch... These should have already been fixed in the boxed game that hit the shelves...

No performance upgrade?

[trinitrus]

maybe there is, i think its not full list, i no they fixed lots of MINOR bugs :)
Edit: Jimokalos, you're a true Gothic fan, all gothic's, no other games...

[DTR]

Lol.

"No entry point found" = the exe is busted. Or our Indian friends optimized that useless "Winmain" thing away. :rolleyes:
Wow. For a brief moment that I saw it in its full size, I was able to read something about missing dll too. All the same though. FUBAR.

[GeorgeK]

SON OF A ***** §burn

Installed patch 1.07 and get error about a missing dll (and game will not start :mad:

[vivaxardas]

I cannot make it work! This game is f*** cursed!!! :(

[Bastardo]

Can't help laughing.

[DTR]

I am sure they will release another patch soon.

So far the thing has not actually broken anything apart from the game it was made to fix, so there is still hope... We still have a working computer to entertain ourselves. That is alot!

Oh, and merry Christmas everyone!

[Ergopad]

I couldn't care less about Forsaken Bugs patches, since the real problems are with the story and gameplay, and those cannot be fixed with patches, unless the patches are going to be +1GB...

What I'm waiting, is CP 1.7. ;)

[jimokalos]

maybe there is, i think its not full list, i no they fixed lots of MINOR bugs :)
Edit: Jimokalos, you're a true Gothic fan, all gothic's, no other games...

Offtopic:trinitus,if you think i am not a fan of other games just look at the list of the games i have here: http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/fa37307136.jpg (http://www.fotorola.com/)

IT WORKED!!!YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!:D I just needed to uninstall the patch 1.06 and reinstall the patch!Now,it has less lags,faster loading times and much more!Do it!

They are not the only one!Anyway,i have managed to fix the problem with the patch as i said before.

[trinitrus]

Offtopic:trinitus,if you think i am not a fan of other games just look at the list of the games i have here: http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/fa37307136.jpg (http://www.fotorola.com/)

OMG< more than 50% of the games are the same as mybnes, warcraft 3, wow, Cod4 ETC :)

[trinitrus]

me too, but im bored playing...

[inuyasha15]

one question, do i have to instal all the paches or only the latest patch, is the last pach combined withe the other?

[jimokalos]

You have to install the patch 1.04 and then the patch 1.07!But dont install the 1.06!

[trinitrus]

Barrel of Fish in silden wasn't removed...
Edit: Lets post all bugs we find in this thread? :)

[jimokalos]

ok.Post them here and then we can complain about it. edit:There is an easter egg with Diego!You can find him only with cheats.I dont like using cheats but this time you will have to see it.I will post some screenshots with him!

Ok,here is a screenshot!:p http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/45ec33b3e8.jpg (http://www.fotorola.com/) and here is another one! http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/eb4b353b9d.jpg (http://www.fotorola.com/)

[trinitrus]

owned :) You writed spawn Diego in console?

[trinitrus]

if you write goto Lee in beginning of the game, you'll be teleported to place near vengard where are some mobs :) Try it :)

[Kostaz]

Reinstalled,and had the same error as Jimokalos,why didn't they give any instructions?

I just needed to uninstall the patch 1.06 and reinstall the patch!
Thanks

This patch is a joke.I can't believe they even f*cked up a patch,those guys have a talent.

[jimokalos]

What do you mean?It corrected a lot of things!

[inuyasha15]

$#% are you joking that can t be diego, he is so difrent from gothic 3 :eek:

[Petyamester]

"There u r!"

Looks like the programmers spent more time with internet chit chatting than coding a game.

[WernerTWC]

"There u r!"

Looks like the programmers spent more time with internet chit chatting than coding a game.

Come on,... be fair,... they enabled 90% of the dialogs for x-mas, thats nice, isn't it?! ... i'm sure they wanna leave a good surprise for us as easter, ... something like 100% of the dialogs maybe working. ;)

[Madball357]

Come on,... be fair,... they enabled 90% of the dialogs for x-mas, thats nice, isn't it?! ... i'm sure they wanna leave a good surprise for us as easter, ... something like 100% of the dialogs maybe working. ;)

PLEASE, if it said 'There hou asiufh' it would be perfectly understandable because it would be an error, typo or whatever, but they wrote the dialog the way it is ON PURPOSE!

I've never seen anything like this in another videogame. Well, except maybe if the other games by Trine employ the same stupid writer AND the same stupid guy that approved such shit?

[Buccaneer]

Thank you for the patch. I was hoping for one before Christmas, as we will get the game tomorrow. We're hoping for a few days of gameplay next week, at least. Good thing I am an older US gamer, it would suck if I was a young, angry Euro. :)

[Kostaz]

We're hoping for a few days of gameplay next week, at least.
When you're old the only thing you can do is hope,I pity you.

Good thing I am an older US gamer,
Try WoW,you're gonna love it.

it would suck if I was a young, angry Euro.
Yeah sucks to be young:rolleyes:

[Rashnu]

It might be better to concentrate the discussion on the patch. Stop the bitching.

[Uriziel 1]

Hi homies!

I really big fun of Gothic series, i spent a houndres of hours playing every part (like for me Gothic I is the best of All, best RPG ever!).
I was really patient for Forsaken God, after 1.6 patch I stoped playing (that was imposible, too many bug, stuck, crash, story problem with quest i terible performance), waiting for next patch.
Is very sad but patch 1.07 doesnt help at all. Still i get stuck in the game, especialy when i try speek witch trader. Game thing I'm buing but I have no any option, I can't move and save :/
When I want alt+tab its imposible to back to game becouse I see only black screen with sound.

Its MEGA HUGE DISSAPOINTMENT! It doesnt look like German famus quality and precision :( I think it imposible to repair game code on this stage.... They should give it back all money the earn from FG, dig a big hole for themself I stay there forever.

[Rashnu]

Its MEGA HUGE DISSAPOINTMENT! It doesnt look like German famus quality and precision

It wasn't made in Germany, Trine Games is based in India! ^2^

[Uriziel 1]

Yes but Piranha Bytes is a German Company and no matter where the produce they games they take full responasbility for teh quality!

[Bastardo]

Yes but Piranha Bytes is a German Company and no matter where the produce they games they take full responasbility for teh quality!You should pay attention at the logos at the startup.
Piranha Bytes has nothing to do with Forsaken Gods. They lost their rights to Gothic quite a while ago.
Piranha Bytes is working on a completely different game (infos (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=548)).

JoWooD holds the rights to the Gothic franchise so stop blaming blindly.

[Uriziel 1]

I'm sory my bad, I have no idea about that I thought that is still in Gemran's hands. Thanks for turning me on the right information.
So whether patch is still not satisfaction, In m case I can't play, although I really want to play.

Any information about new patch release?

[Kostaz]

I'd like to ask you guys who know more about the gaming industry.
Forsaken Gods is broken that is beyond any doubt it not just bugs or glitches,its the story and voice overs.
Is there any chance when the patching will reach 1.x that Jowood will hire actors to fix the VO of orcs and guys with the ability to speak with 3 different voices?

[Bastardo]

Is there any chance when the patching will reach 1.x that Jowood will hire actors to fix the VO of orcs and guys with the ability to speak with 3 different voices? Nope.

[Gorn the destroyer]

Well the CPT has a looooooooooooooooooooooooooot work to do... I wish them luck:) But i don´t think that Forsaken Gods will be a good game even when it will be fully patched:(
Patching Gothic 3 to perfect form took 2 years. Well gothic 3 looks like a GAME OF THE DECADE againts forsaken gods so it will probably take a lot longer if the is to be in perfect form

[WernerTWC]

Well the CPT has a looooooooooooooooooooooooooot work to do... I wish them luck:)

The CPT (Community Patch Team) will NOT patch FG.

[Gorn the destroyer]

The CPT (Community Patch Team) will NOT patch FG.

so Jowood will? well if Jowood will patch it than it will be in a more catastrophical state when it will be fully patched than it is now :(

[Bastardo]

I'm pretty glad about it. That would be like helping a raper rape your pal or something similar.

[GeorgeK]

Have you all noticed how many INI files FG has? Many more than G3. Trying to fix a game with INI files is not going to excuse the use of a BAD game engine :rolleyes:

[Buccaneer]

I successfully installed the game last night, plus 1.07. Didn't play, just roam around some. Really sluggish at High details (whereas G3 ran fine), probably going knock that down to Medium. :( Seems to look like the graphics have been enhanced, things just look more details and fuller. But it comes at a cost.

[Buccaneer]

Just spent the last 6 hours playing. Tried to knock the details down to Medium and the game would crawl at 1 frame per 10 seconds. So to get it to run, had to go back up to High. There it would run sluggish most of the time but can get prolonged periods where I can get things done (not to mention a few crashes). Got all but one of the quests done in Silden/Geldern and just arrived in Trelis. We're playing Hard and it is more of a challenge, esp. seeing Endurance drain so quickly.

One of the big differences I've noticed is in the combat. Mashing the button doesn't produce a constant swing action. Also, I have found the right-button to be far more effective. Additionally, when your endurance runs out (which doesn't take much), you cannot fight (unlike G3).

I've got AK up to 95 and Mana to 244 and it is hard to fight effectively with a fireball (the only thing I have). That's probably due to the Hard level, which is refreshing change from the easyness of fighting as a mage in G3. I'm having to use all of my mana just to soften up one Orc.

Besides the awful performance, there are some annoying things like having to reload when those you are escorting start turning on each other. It is a harder game that requires tons of patience to get through the bad performance and other glitches.

[Rashnu]

Thank you for telling us some of your FG impressions. It's always refreshing to have it presented in a fact-based fashion without all the emotions that probably come with it. :)


Tried to knock the details down to Medium and the game would crawl at 1 frame per 10 seconds. So to get it to run, had to go back up to High.

Which makes me wonder: what system do you use?

[Buccaneer]

Which makes me wonder: what system do you use?

I think the Medium/High thing was just one of those frequent crawls, just happened to hit it at a bad time.

Probably the best way to describe my system that I built is that it runs G3 on High really well. FG is another story altogether.

[lum1n]

Excuse my English. :) I have russian G3FG, and in version from russobit-m (v1.1) all characters' mouths are closed even when they are "speaking". I mean, there is no lipsync at all! Is the same problem exist in other versions (polish, german, czech, english) of addon? Thanx.

P. S. And tell me, please, what file is responsible for lipsynk exept sapi_lipsync.dll (286•720 byte, version 1.0.0.0). Thx again.

[WernerTWC]

P. S. And tell me, please, what file is responsible for lipsynk exept sapi_lipsync.dll (286•720 byte, version 1.0.0.0). Thx again.

That should be a file named similar to this (german version of g3, don't have fg):

Speech_German.pak

So probably Speech_Russian.pak or something, the lipsyncs should be in it.

[lum1n]

That should be a file named similar to this (german version of g3, don't have fg):

Speech_German.pak

So probably Speech_Russian.pak or something, the lipsyncs should be in it.

Thanx... damn... we don't have that pak file. Speech is unpacked and it's located... in INI folder (!!!) There is NO lipsync files at all!!! Only wave and ogg in a folder named "English audio Pool with xlip (Converted)" GFI and Russobit-M are MORONS! :( Can anybody unpack their english or german speech pak and send xlip files to me?.. (they are small) I'll try to compile speech pack with it.

[inuyasha15]

1 question, should i install the game in the default category, or i can chose one, because i heard about some problems with that

[RobinHood 13.]

1 question, should i install the game in the default category, or i can chose one, because i heard about some problems with that

Original Gothic 3 should do fine.
Forsaken Gods has bugs with that, but I dunno if a patch fixes those problems.

[Buccaneer]

We just finished the game. It ended up being about 18-22 hours of solid gameplay, not counting the innumerous pauses and slowdowns. That added on about 12 hours to the game, with those constant 15-seconds pauses every few minutes - and that's playing on Low Details.

Apart from the perfomance problems (I had very little problems with G3 on High Details) and many dialog glitches, I actually thought the game was fun and it had a suspenseful build up once it got going. That made me put up with the bad performance because I wanted to see what we were working towards and how it was going to end.

Yes, there were way too many escorting quests, stupid chests and not enough combat with creatures (playing solely as a mage). And most of the quests gave you WAAYYY too many points - seems like I was doing a level up after every quest, even after reaching level 25-30.

The one place that I had a good, tough fight was Reddock with the Golems and Dragon. Wished we had far more of that.

I really liked getting Lee and Milten together with Gorn, esp. not knowing what we were going to fight. Going into that cave with everyone was cool because that had always been my favorite cave. And then getting the summoner's map, I didn't know what we were going to face or where.

And then it was the monumental let down. First place I teleported to was Reddock and there it was. All it took was ONE fireball. :rolleyes:

Going back to the throne room was comical at best - our hero hamming it up and repeating the same dorky speech over and over, even repeating it for the ending slide. And then it went back to the game, continued with more conversations even after the credits. I thought, heck, why not go to Trelis and find Gorn. Of course he wasn't there and Orcs were hostile and while that would have finally been a good fight, I felt the game was over and let it died.

I do not like linear rpg/action/adventure games and this caused a problem when you get stuck on one quest and there was no way to move forward until I had a solution to it (it took 2 days since I didn't know if it was something I didn't do or if it was broken). G3 was much better in the quest system and I hope G4 follows a similar path.

[Rashnu]

Thank you for giving us this balanced feedback. Much needed in a time of high flying emotions. §thx

Do you have certain expectations for the next patch? Which issue should be addressed first? The innumerous 15sec pauses, I presume.

[inuyasha15]

i thought that only gothic 3 had the "where s the guru" problem, but it started to appear in the expansion as well, does someone have a sugestion on how to make this stop

[Buccaneer]

Thank you for giving us this balanced feedback. Much needed in a time of high flying emotions. §thx

Do you have certain expectations for the next patch? Which issue should be addressed first? The innumerous 15sec pauses, I presume.

You're welcome. Expectations? G3FG is a smaller world than G3 but the performance is much, much worse. I have read that it is slamming the hard drive more, instead of caching to memory, so that might be a place to start. It doesn't make sense that on the same PC, G3 can run well at High and G3FG runs poorly at Low.

I don't know what the scope of a patch should be but I think if you focus on fixing the dialoges (e.g., not showing NPC's lines in our conversation tree), missing or wrong voice files, making sure all of the texts are in one language (there were several French texts in the English version) and ensuring that the conversation flows logically (several times the conversation tree goes back on itself, and it branches off into illogical conversations) - it would improve the gameplay experience. I would also add something about the inconsistent voices (like Soma and his three very different voices, from a whining woman's to a gruff orc) but that's probably outside of a patch.

Beyond that, I would look at balancing issues like the chests (not only the stupid contents but also all of the chests being free to loot), reward points for quests (was scaling from one level to another ever used?), not having quest items piled nearby (like magic ore, wheat bags, raw meat, nogginfoggin, rhobars, etc.), reduce the number of escort quests, and improve the way people follow you (e.g., don't make them stop when the see someone else fighting, and a few times with a group, they started to turn on each other - like the trader to Silden, requiring to reload and doing it over again until you can get them from A to B).

I guess I would also add something about the final boss. One of the criticisms I had about G3 and now about FG, was the lack of tough foes as a mage. I had trouble with the Undead Shamans in the temples in G3 (hard to get a good shot) and that was fun but that was about it. The only tough foe in FG was the Fire Golem (and to some extent, the dragon) - I didn't have much of any magic that could hurt it and had to think about what it would take and to get it. For the end boss (whatever that creature was), one fireball (even if I was at 270 AK) should not take it out and more importantly, it should not be in the most vulnerable spot in the whole game. Make it 100x harder to kill and put it in a spot where you can't get a clear shot that easily.

[Kostaz]

Thanks for the feedback,I may hate this game but some balanced words are more than welcome.


Beyond that, I would look at balancing issues like the chests (not only the stupid contents but also all of the chests being free to loot), reward points for quests (was scaling from one level to another ever used?), not having quest items piled nearby (like magic ore, wheat bags, raw meat, nogginfoggin, rhobars, etc.), reduce the number of escort quests, and improve the way people follow you (e.g., don't make them stop when the see someone else fighting, and a few times with a group, they started to turn on each other - like the trader to Silden, requiring to reload and doing it over again until you can get them from A to B).

Aprox 4-666 months:D