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TazmanDevil
06.09.2017, 16:53
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Returning v2.0 - Eine neue Herausforderung


Da es lange um Returning 1.1 ruhig geworden ist, hielt man den Patch v1.1 für die finale Version dieser grandiosen Modifikation. Vor einiger Zeit war zuerst die Rede einer 1.2 Version (in der der Patch 1.12.9 Einzug finden sollte), die sich mehr auf die Quests und Entscheidungen im Spiel konzentrieren und auch den Schwierigkeitsgrad etwas drosseln wollte. Da das Projekt wohl zu aufwendig gewesen ist, hörte man lange Zeit nichts mehr von den Verantwortlichen.
Doch nun ist es soweit: seit dem 27.12.2015 ist Returning 2.0 veröffentlicht worden.
Pünktlich zum Release hat der gute Lord Sargon einen Deutsch/Englisch-Pseudopatch erstellt.
Die offizielle v2.0 baut auf der inoffiziellen Rebalance 2.1 von Dimmel auf.
Website über Returning 2.0 rpgrussia.com (http://rpgrussia.com/index.php?topic=8511.0) und WoP Ru (http://worldofplayers.ru/forums/525/).

Wichtig:
Viele werden anmerken, dass Gothic dadurch nicht mehr auf schlechteren System laufen wird. Warum jetzt erst diese Angaben?
Returning v2.0 ist nicht vanilla Gothic 2. Die Änderungen haben ihre Zeit in Tests gebraucht, die eine Menge von Highpoly Modelle (Rüstungen, Waffen, Gegenstände, etc.), eine große Anzahl von HD-Texturen und neuwertige Musik im Format DX enthält. Der Inhalt in den Welten hat stark zugenommen und dies erhöht natürlich die Belastung der CPU, Speicher, Festplatte usw. Auf alten Systemen wird v2.0 nun mal nicht funktionieren. Systeme, die diese Anforderungen nicht erfüllen, werden nur mit minimalen FPS das Spiel darstellen können, was wiederum zu anderen technischen Problemen führen kann.
Die Stabilität der Mod wird nur gewährleistet, wenn der Testmodus (MarvinMode) inaktiv ist.


INSTALLATIONSROUTINE v2.0066_R2

Version 0066_R2 Torrent (http://worldofplayers.ru/resources/84/download?version=264)
RET2_0066R2.1_googlepatch.exe (https://upload.worldofplayers.de/files10/RET2_0066Rev2.1_googlepatch.exe.zip)


Installationsroutinen vorheriger Versionen

INSTALLATIONSROUTINE v2.0051
Gothic 2 Ordner kopieren, an einer anderen Stelle wieder einfügen, z.B. unter Dokumente
All-In-One Microsoft Runtime Bibliotheken (http://x.chip.de/intern/dl/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chip.de%2Fdownloads%2Fc1_downloads_auswahl_37449840.html%3 Ft%3D1460461997%26v%3D3600%26s%3Dc57397cd2d391bca405fc043782df5c4&pageLayout=withinstaller|e50) installieren (googeln)
ISO-Datei (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW2YyOkSp_0ZU1WSmRmQjlUMzA/view?usp=sharing) ausführen (gegebenenfalls Patches mit auswählen) und dabei als Installationspfad kopierten Gothic 2 Ordner angeben. Hierführ wird ein Tool benötigt, welches ISO Dateien laden kann, z.B Daemon Tools Light (http://www.disk-tools.com/download/daemon)
Patches zu v0051 installieren https://yadi.sk/d/g7CpZecYrEPsh.
PseudoDEUTSCH (http://upload.worldofplayers.de/files10/RET2_Scripts_de.vdf.0051.Hotfix4.7z)- oder PseudoENGLISCHpatch (http://upload.worldofplayers.de/files10/RET2_Scripts_en.vdf.0051.Hotfix4.7z) installieren by Lord Sargon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpFQ_a71X7k

INSTALLATIONSROUTINE v2.0056
Gothic 2 Ordner kopieren, an einer anderen Stelle wieder einfügen, z.B. unter Dokumente
All-In-One Microsoft Runtime Bibliotheken (http://x.chip.de/intern/dl/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chip.de%2Fdownloads%2Fc1_downloads_auswahl_37449840.html%3 Ft%3D1460461997%26v%3D3600%26s%3Dc57397cd2d391bca405fc043782df5c4&pageLayout=withinstaller|e50) installieren (googeln)
ISO-Datei (https://yadi.sk/d/72Wuw68arXVZb) ausführen (gegebenenfalls Patches mit auswählen) und dabei als Installationspfad kopierten Gothic 2 Ordner angeben. Hierführ wird ein Tool benötigt, welches ISO Dateien laden kann, z.B Daemon Tools Light (http://www.disk-tools.com/download/daemon)
Patches zu v0056 installieren (File 1.6 GB (https://yadi.sk/d/HQwop_hrrhMi6)).
PseudoDEUTSCH (http://upload.worldofplayers.de/files10/RET2_Scripts_de.vdf.0056.Hotfix2.7z)- oder PseudoENGLISCHpatch (http://upload.worldofplayers.de/files10/RET2_Scripts_en.vdf.0056.Hotfix2.7z) installieren by Lord Sargon
AST.dll nach Gothic 2/System verschieben. Für PseudoDEUTSCH (http://upload.worldofplayers.de/files10/AST_de_0056_Hotfix2.7z), für PseudoENGLISCH (http://upload.worldofplayers.de/files10/AST_en_0056_Hotfix2.7z)


INSTALLATIONSROUTINE v2.0060 >>Klick<< (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1400928-Gothic-2-Returning-v2-0-Stand-Fragen-Antworten?p=24913429&viewfull=1#post24913429)
Provisorische Returning v2.0 QUESTHILFE >>KLICK<< (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1457629-RETURNING-v2-0-QUESTHILFE)
Sounds ohne die russ. Sprache Returning2_0_SFX_ohne_Russian_Speech.7z (https://yadi.sk/d/_8T_c9FCmfc3K)
Gothic 2 Texturen für Returning 2.0 Re-Texture (https://yadi.sk/d/vzp5OnHNmeaRj)



Technische Voraussetzungen

Minimale, spielbare Mindestanforderungen (~30 fps):

Prozessor: mindestens Intel® Core™2 Duo Prozessor 2.8 GHz
Speicherkapazität (RAM): 2 GB für 32-Bit-Systeme (XP, Windows 7 x32), 4 GB für 64-Bit-Systeme (Win7/Win8)
Grafikkarte: Nvidia GTX 460 oder höher
Festplatte HDD: 15 GB freier Speicherplatz
Betriebssystem: Windows XP mit allen Updates


Empfohlene Anforderungen (etwa 30-60 FPS im Durchschnitt):

Prozessor: Intel® Core™ i5 Prozessor oder leistungsstärker
Speicherkapazität (RAM): 8 GB oder mehr
Grafikkarte: Nvidia GTX650 TI 4 GB VRAM oder höher
Festplatte HDD: SSD Festplatte (Solid State Disk/Drive), 15 GB freier Speicherplatz
Betriebssystem: Windows 7 mit allen Updates

Offizielle Versionen von Returning
v1.0 Trazege & Co.
v1.1 Trazege & Co.
v2.0 Trazege & Co.
Inoffizielle Versionen von Returning
v1.12.9 Dimmell
v1.12.9 Rebalance Marcello
v1.4 Yelawolf
Rebalance Uni Dimmel
v1.6 Rebalance Dimmel
v1.7 Rebalance Dimmel
v2.0 Rebalance Dimmel
v2.1 Rebalance Dimmel
Balance Mod Alpha, basierend auf Rebalance 1.4 von Yelawolf, erstellt von Ksardos877, Trazege & Co.
Aktuelle Änderungen (Google-Translator):
nur in das Spiel jetzt über 30 Standorten (davon 6 brandneuen )
eine große Anzahl neuer Produkte, Waffen und Rüstungen;
die große Mehrheit der alten Gegenstände im Spiel sind neue, qualitativ hochwertige Highpoly Modell;
neue und verbesserte interaktive Objekte in der Welt
viel neue Objekte der Umwelt;
neue hochwertige HD-Texturen für Objekte, Welten, Charaktere,
mehr als 200 neue Quests und ein paar neue Handlungsstränge;
neue Wendungen alte Ereignisse;
das Ende des Spiels komplett überarbeitet;
mehr als 50 neue Zeichen mit Zeichenausgearbeitet;
Neue Monster;
neue Arten von Magie;
ein neues System der Teleports;
ein neues Buchhaltungssystem Intellekt;
ein neuer Systemaufruf;
ganz neu und geändert alten Formen von Kunsthandwerk;
neue animierte Kampfstile für verschiedene Arten von Waffen (Schutzschilde, Lamellen, Speere, Schwerter, etc.);
eine leichte Anpassung und Neugestaltung der gesamten Animation im Spiel;
den neuen Titelsong für den alten und neuen Standorten;
drei Schwierigkeitsstufen;
eine völlig neue Gleichgewicht der Charakter-Entwicklung, die von der Komplexität des gewählten Spiels bestimmt wird;
und fast vollständig sehr hohe Qualität Sprach Zeichen;
über mehr als 100 Stunden spannendes Spiel, lassen Sie nicht eine Minute entspannen

Tharr
07.09.2017, 19:33
Well... I already checked. Its already set to 1. Thanks anyway. Guess I'll just avoid using shields. Damn though...

Btw, does anyone know were I can get the Heavy Militia Armor? I was really banking on that one as I'm in the Valley of Mines. Beside the fact that now it looks sick... I really need the armor against those pesky orks. I can handle 2... perhaps 3... but there a hall fuck load of them outside the castle walls as you probably know. :P

Why doesnt Engor sell it anymore! O_o

"Captain obvious wispers" Because a mod makes changes...
@Landros search for that hunter in Khorinis who is selling you the tip with wolf's crawler armor, is much better than militia armor, bro'. And in VoM you will find a tip on how to improve it. But I suspect that until you don't kill the big bug who's giving me trouble now you'll not succeed in improve-it.

Malak
07.09.2017, 19:38
If you are in the valley of mines, you have completed Jharkendar. After the main quest line, you get the heavy guard armor of Thorus which is better than both the minecrawler plate armor and the heavy militia armor.

The heavy miltia armor is obtained by a quest from Wulfgar which is only available if one joins the militia before killing Dexter.

Landros
07.09.2017, 19:39
Seems buggy. sorry.

For military armors you are a little bit at disadvantage because in Returning you got the heavy armor only if you do the secret military quest from wulfgar or engor sells a special military armor if you are playing on hard or above.

Thanks for the info, but could I bother you to be more specific? :D

What "secret" quest would that be? And could you pls tell me what the prerequisits are? What I need to do to get the quest? What chapter is it handed in? Right now, I can only train with Wulfgar.

And Darth Malak, I did join the militia before killing Dexter. I actually killed him while wearing the reinforced militia armor :P For the King! :P I still don't have anymore quests from Wulfgar. And I do have the Raven Guard Armor, I'm actually wearing it. But the ting is... the Heavy Millitia Armor gets to be Upgraded, and it also benefits from a dedicated belt, thus I don't tink it would be a lesser option that Raven Guard armor.

As it stands, I do have a protection belt, ore amulet/rings. But that armor looks to damned cool! :D Its from the Witcher, right?

But I didn't finish Jarkendar per say... I still have to go to the other Valley you get trough the special focus after Raven skeddadles. I just find slaying orcs (even elite) far easier than killing those Stone Sentinels on steroids from that other place

Landros
07.09.2017, 19:50
@Landros search for that hunter in Khorinis who is selling you the tip with wolf's crawler armor, is much better than militia armor, bro'. And in VoM you will find a tip on how to improve it. But I suspect that until you don't kill the big bug who's giving me trouble now you'll not succeed in improve-it.

Thanks for the pointer. The guy is actually a mercenary and is your old buddy Wolf from G1. The inventor of the said armor. And regarding the crawler armor as it is... it is good against bludgeoning and piercing attacks, granted. But its weaker that the pirate armor against blades, witch the orcs use :P

Malak
07.09.2017, 19:51
To be more precise, you get the quest if reading a note from the bandits in the cave near khorinis (the in the forest near Lobart's farm) and taking it to Wulfgar I think. I'm not sure about it, I missed the quest too, just read it on the russian forum. The quest is about a traitor within the militia and to solve it, you need to ask Dexter who the traitor is, that's why killing dexder before starting the quest makes it impoosible to start.

As for the armor and belt...well, if you improve the heavy militia armor tho the maximum, it has only 5 more protection compared to heavy guard armor.
The belt gives 10 + 10 armor I suppose? In that case, did you already learn some of the hunter armors from Falk? If you learn the hunter armors, Raff (the trader in the hunter's camp) will sell a belt for that armor. These belts are not for the hunter armors, however. These belts are pretty good by themselves. For instance, the wolf skin belt gives +20 physical armor. That is as good as the heavy miltia belt together with the armor, but works for all armors. The next belt, the warg belt, has 25 protection.

Landros
07.09.2017, 20:30
To be more precise, you get the quest if reading a note from the bandits in the cave near khorinis (the in the forest near Lobart's farm) and taking it to Wulfgar I think. I'm not sure about it, I missed the quest too, just read it on the russian forum. The quest is about a traitor within the militia and to solve it, you need to ask Dexter who the traitor is, that's why killing dexder before starting the quest makes it impoosible to start.

As for the armor and belt...well, if you improve the heavy militia armor tho the maximum, it has only 5 more protection compared to heavy guard armor.
The belt gives 10 + 10 armor I suppose? In that case, did you already learn some of the hunter armors from Falk? If you learn the hunter armors, Raff (the trader in the hunter's camp) will sell a belt for that armor. These belts are not for the hunter armors, however. These belts are pretty good by themselves. For instance, the wolf skin belt gives +20 physical armor. That is as good as the heavy miltia belt together with the armor, but works for all armors. The next belt, the warg belt, has 25 protection.

Thanks again. One more question, and a stupid one at that. HOW do I forge the hunter armors? I've learned to, but I dont know what table to use. Is it the "cutting table" in the hunters camp? If it is, what do I need to use it? When ever I try using it, it sais I dont have what is required. I do hae a ton of skins, claws etc. I was also touht by the head hunter.

Malak
07.09.2017, 20:35
Puh, I have no idea. But I suppose you are a strength charakter, right? Otherwise you couldn't wear the heavy guard armor. I ask because the hunter armors need quite a bit of dexterity to wear. You probably can't use them anyway, they are supposed to be used by Dex-Chars.
I just told about them because the belts can be used by anyone and are quite good.

Tentarr
07.09.2017, 21:13
@ Land
For Wulfgars quest you need to be in first chpater and join the militar very soon to get this quest. You have to kill all bandits camp except the dexter camp as a miliatry man. Then wulfgar talk with you about a spy at the military and you have to ask Dexter about this.
For better armor you could also improve the armor from thorus if you ask crimson the smith in the gold mine at the bandits camp.
You also don´t have to do the second part of yarkendar at the second chapter. These quests and the new area are designed for chpater 3-4.
To use the cutting table you need a carving knife you can buy these by several hunter traders but as malak said hunter armors are primary for dex chars.

Tharr
08.09.2017, 04:00
Thanks for the pointer. The guy is actually a mercenary and is your old buddy Wolf from G1. The inventor of the said armor. And regarding the crawler armor as it is... it is good against bludgeoning and piercing attacks, granted. But its weaker that the pirate armor against blades, witch the orcs use :P That's what I said, too. But you will not have a dialogue with him until you don't bring to the hunter shadowbeasts pelts, or what he wants, I don't remember exactly.

Landros
08.09.2017, 05:07
Thanks for the help guys! Gonna go upgrade my armor at Crimson, then buy myself a Warg belt. Gonna raise me up some survivability.

EDIT: What do you guys know about the quest "The Experiment" from Ignaz. I've just beat Valentino, waited till he got up (also did it while he was lying down) and used Oblivion on him. Guess what... didn't get reported to, bur he is angry with me. Tried it on Ignaz himself. On Ignaz, the spell dosn't seem to work. I use it... and he remains mad with me, attacking me as soon as I try speaking with him.

Damn... I really neaded that alchemy training that Ignaz provided. Besides him, theres only Sagitta before my becoming a paladin. And I can't beat a bloody Black Throll.

EDIT 2: Ignor this... the spell simply doesnt work. I've tried it on 5 different people, eather while they where lying down, or while they had gotten up... they're still angry. Damn.

Bimor
08.09.2017, 08:17
Thanks for the help guys! Gonna go upgrade my armor at Crimson, then buy myself a Warg belt. Gonna raise me up some survivability.

EDIT: What do you guys know about the quest "The Experiment" from Ignaz. I've just beat Valentino, waited till he got up (also did it while he was lying down) and used Oblivion on him. Guess what... didn't get reported to, bur he is angry with me. Tried it on Ignaz himself. On Ignaz, the spell dosn't seem to work. I use it... and he remains mad with me, attacking me as soon as I try speaking with him.

Damn... I really neaded that alchemy training that Ignaz provided. Besides him, theres only Sagitta before my becoming a paladin. And I can't beat a bloody Black Throll.

EDIT 2: Ignor this... the spell simply doesnt work. I've tried it on 5 different people, eather while they where lying down, or while they had gotten up... they're still angry. Damn.

You just need to wait until they do their normal stuff again and then cast it. In every playthrough I drop my gold in a safe place and go to constantino (because he is always alone), steal some stuff and let him beat me up. After that i cast oblivion on him and he forgets about it. It works everytime. (Don't forget to pick up your gold again)
Besides there is no need to kill the black troll for the sun aloe, you can just sneak or run in and grab it.

Landros
08.09.2017, 09:34
Thanks for the tip, gonna surely try a marathon around the black troll.

What do you guys think? When should I takle the abandoned mine for the elixir of eligora (or some such)?

Right now, I don't know what lvl I am, but I've got the upgraded (ore) guard armor, the "Cross Fate" sword, about 1700 HP and 196 STR, soon to be 206. I'm also a master of the one-handed blade. And yeah... I know that using maces works best against undead, for that, i've got the Morning Star.

Also, with this stats, do you tink I could takle a seeker? Getting that Knight Armor early would probably help. If that part remained unchanged that is... :P

I realize I'm somewhat over cautious... but I can still remember my first battle against a seeker in Returning 1.1... Knight armor, Blessed ore blade, died in two hits, while managing to probably get the seekers health down by a quarter O_o

Tentarr
08.09.2017, 10:02
You can get the elixir without killing a seeker demon.
You only need to kill the demon to get the elemental sphere that is hidden in the mine.

Best advice try to kill him, with enough endurance, regeneration and avoidance you can almost every enemies but it also depends on your skill and luck.

Landros
08.09.2017, 10:19
When I said seeker I was refering to the dark magicians (former swamp camp junkies) Beliar sends after you.

And... yeah, I can kill them. I just beat the crap out of Dark Something... the first seeker you find at the entrance to the Pass of Khorinis. Interesting fight! :D Much better than Vanilla Gothic 2.

Tentarr
08.09.2017, 10:45
Lol sorry my fault, there are also seeker demons and there is one in the abandoned mine :D

Landros
08.09.2017, 11:10
Another question. This one is regarding the consacration of the paladin armor.

Marduk the fire mage sais that once you consacrate the armor, you cant wear any other armor or you will die.
I consacrated the armor and tried out another one... I didnt die. I tried the guard armor, the militia armor and the ring of water armor. None killed me. O_o

Why is it important? I seam to recall that once accepted as a Guardian of the Keepers, you get a nice armor. A good one actually. I wouldn't want to NOT be able to wear it.

Has the killing part been removed? Or is it another of those strange bugs I've been experiencing.

I'll hold up with the consacration of the armor for now...

Tentarr
08.09.2017, 12:27
The killing part depends on the game difficulty and which armor you consecrate. Only the last two armors you get should kill you not the normal knight armor.
If you hope for the guardians armor I hope you play on hard or legendary else you won't get it but there are other better armors, the best one is available for every character.

Landros
08.09.2017, 12:42
Wait... there are more than 2 tiers of paladin armor now? So... theres the knight armor (wich I just got), the paladin armor and then another one? Thats nice! And what about the best armor? Guessing you're gonna get it in the last chapter? In the liberation of Khorinis?

Tentarr
08.09.2017, 13:02
there are four tiers but the last only at hard or above.

You guess wrong. Theoretically you can get the best armor at the second chapter if you can beat the most difficult dungeon.
You find the dungeon at the end of the adanos desert, the second part of yarkendar but it's really difficult.

Malak
08.09.2017, 18:46
there are four tiers but the last only at hard or above.

You guess wrong. Theoretically you can get the best armor at the second chapter if you can beat the most difficult dungeon.
You find the dungeon at the end of the adanos desert, the second part of yarkendar but it's really difficult.

Wo soll dieser Dungeon sein?

Tentarr
08.09.2017, 19:09
Im Tempel in dem man raven ein zweites mal trifft, dort gibt es in dem rechten Raum ein Portal das zu dem Dungeon führt.
Damit ist das neue Gebiet mit dem Skelett npcs gemeint.

Malak
08.09.2017, 19:17
Hm...war der Teleporter nicht aus? Ich meine, dass der bei mir nicht an war. Da stand einfach nur die Platform herum.

Tentarr
08.09.2017, 19:28
Es hängt mit deinen Status Werten zusammen, du brauchst mehr als 2000 Leben und je nachdem was dein primär Attribut ist einen anderen Wert.
Bei dex und str mehr als 350 und bei Mana mehr als 800.
Man muss auch die klaue bei sich haben d.h. es geht erst nach ravens tot.
Wichtig ist vorher zu speichern, da man den Dungeon nicht anders verlassen kann, als ihn vollständig zu durchlaufen.

monsterfresser
09.09.2017, 14:50
Hey Leute,
ich spiele momentan einen Dex-Char und wollte fragen, ob 2 Schwerter Kampf von 1Hand oder 2Hand profitiert

Tentarr
09.09.2017, 15:54
Nur von 1 Hand und nur von dex.

Ausdauer brauchen sie auch noch und nicht zu wenig, darauf also noch achten.

monsterfresser
09.09.2017, 16:17
Nur von 1 Hand und nur von dex.

Ausdauer brauchen sie auch noch und nicht zu wenig, darauf also noch achten.

Ich danke dir herzlich und hätte noch eine weitere Frage, sorry fürs nochmalige stören:D

Also wechselt sich irgendwann die Kampfanimation des Degens? Diese Animation stört mich ziemlich und ist deutlich schlechter als die 1 Hand Meisterkämpfer Animation

Tentarr
09.09.2017, 16:23
Du störst doch nicht :p

Der Degen hat vier eigene Animationen bekommen und nicht mehr die Standard Schwert Animationen.
Du kannst allerdings mit rechter shift ttaste und den numblock zahlen 1-4 die unterschiedlichen animationen des degens einstellen.

Landros
09.09.2017, 21:36
Regarding the Oblivion spell bug... its still a bug. But I did find a workaround. Basically, I believe the bug is related to the crime observation script, as I've been kicking around bouth Constantino, Pepo and Saggita and someone keeps seeing me at it. Who? No idea... Either Innos in Sagitas case, or the sheep in Pepos. Constantino... probably the neighbors. (the spell failes to work only in Khorinis)
All you need to do (if this happenes to you) is kick somebody into unconsciousness and then use oblivion on him somewhere other than Khorinis. I did it with Diego in The Valley of Mines.

TraptPatriot
10.09.2017, 01:01
Hello, I receive the below error when I start a new game. I reinstalled the game and mods completely, 3x now. The game is running as administrator. Could someone help, please?

My install order is this:
Gothic2 Gold Steam
gothic2_fix-2.6.0.0-rev2
Gothic2_PlayerKit-2.6f (also tried 2.8)
Returning 2.0 66R2 with 4GB memory option and Shw32.dll option
RET2_Scripts_en_0066R2.7z extracted and copied in Data folder (RET2_Scripts_en.vdf)
AST_en_0066R1_hotfix7.7z extracted and copied in System folder (AST.dll)
G2Returning-SystemPackk-1.7 (English version)

Error:
D: zMorphMess(zCMorphMeshProto::LoadmorphScripts)
: MMS not found: ITRW_BOW_S_IRON.MMS

Tentarr
10.09.2017, 10:10
@ Land
Don´t know what happend with your oblivion spell but I tested on several chars and savegames and everything work fine.
I hope it´s only a rare random bug.

@ Trap
Welcome to the forum :gratz

Your installation is missing some data, probably there got lost at the download, so try to redownload your returning data.

Here is a complete installation routine if you need further help:

Here is an installation guide for the "66 R2 version" if you want to play with Russian language and English subtitles and user interface:


First:

- Returning 2.0 must be installed separately, in an extra folder
- The installation path should be outside of "C: \ Program Files (x86) \"
- A possible installation path would be: "C: \ Games \ Gothic II Returning 2.00066 R2"
- During the installation everything should be run as an administrator, if possible
- The runtime files from the startpost must be installed, as well as Deamontools Light and uTorrent (possible download at Chip.de)


Installationsequence:

1. Install Gothic 2 NOTR in an extra folder (in case Gothic 2 already exists on the computer with other mods) (Admin)
2. Install Gothic 2 Fix-2.6.0.0-rev2 in the Gothic 2 folder (Admin)
3. Install Gothic 2 Playerkit-2.6f into the Gothic 2 folder (Admin)
4. Download 66 R2 version via uTorrent and run ISO file via Deamontools Light, select the Gothic 2 folder as the path in the Installer (link is on the first page in this thread)

In the installer:
Installation of the Russian version -> definitely set a hook
Russification for GOG / Steam -> definitely set a hook
RAM expansion up to 4GB -> if it allows the system definitely set a hook
Update the library Shw32.dll -> definitely set a hook
Fonts for high resolutions -> optional
Original music from KaiRo -> optional, if you do not like the returning soundtrack then set a hook
Camera for the Renderer DX11 -> who wants to play with Renderer can set a hook
Renderer DX11 -> optional, you should have a good system if you want to use it

5. Copy the contents of RET2_Scripts_en_0066R2.7z from hand into the "Data" folder (link is on the first page in this thread)
6. Copy the contents of AST_en_0066R1_hotfix7.7z from hand into the "System" folder (link is on the first page in this thread)
7. Run Gothic 2.exe from the "System" folder always as an administrator to play

Some more info:
- If you are asked when copying the files, if you want to replace the files in the destination, confirm with "Yes all".
- It is important that the extracted files are inserted from hand into the respective folders. For example: copy the 7z.-files to the desctop, extract it there and then copy the files into the respective folders from hand.
- If after the installation a error message occurs at the start of Returning 2.0, you should download all the Gothic 2 Returning files again via uTorrent and re-install everything with this new files (before that, uninstall everything of course).
- If you play with DX11 renderer: there is no need to install it manually after the installation, it happens during the installation if it was chosen.
- Downloading the Systempack manually is also not necessary, it also happens during the installation.

If the error is still ouccurring after redownload the returning data and the reinstallation, then maybe try it with the spine version of returning.

Landros
10.09.2017, 10:12
Hello, I receive the below error when I start a new game. I reinstalled the game and mods completely, 3x now. The game is running as administrator. Could someone help, please?

My install order is this:
Gothic2 Gold Steam
gothic2_fix-2.6.0.0-rev2
Gothic2_PlayerKit-2.6f (also tried 2.8)
Returning 2.0 66R2 with 4GB memory option and Shw32.dll option
RET2_Scripts_en_0066R2.7z extracted and copied in Data folder (RET2_Scripts_en.vdf)
AST_en_0066R1_hotfix7.7z extracted and copied in System folder (AST.dll)
G2Returning-SystemPackk-1.7 (English version)

Error:
D: zMorphMess(zCMorphMeshProto::LoadmorphScripts)
: MMS not found: ITRW_BOW_S_IRON.MMS

Did you install it withouth directx11? For me, it didnt work withouth it.

Anothe question! I restarted my playtrough on HARD and... its actually VERY HARD! O_o (wanna see those paladin armors!)

What I want to know is... if I where interested in pursuing the Sword and Board way and not the "Most noble of arts... the Two-Handed", how am I gonna kill dragons? Xardas said something about Uriziel... thats a two handed blade. Are there one-handed swords that I can use to slay dragons? Would the Consacrated Ore Sword be enough?

monsterfresser
10.09.2017, 10:48
Du störst doch nicht :p

Der Degen hat vier eigene Animationen bekommen und nicht mehr die Standard Schwert Animationen.
Du kannst allerdings mit rechter shift ttaste und den numblock zahlen 1-4 die unterschiedlichen animationen des degens einstellen.

Hey danke für die Infos, aber wenn ich right shift und 1-4 drücke führt er nur die normalen Tränkeanimationen aus.
Könnte man irgendwie das verändern, dass der Degen wieder die standard Schwert Animation bekommt?

Tentarr
10.09.2017, 13:47
@ Monster Nein das geht nicht, es kann auch sein das du linke shift taste plus die numblock zahlen drücken musst.

@ beast wenn du die tasten für die tränke nutzen willst, schalt doch einfach den numblock aus, dann sollten die hotkeys gehen, da bei deaktiviertem numblock dann nicht die Funktionen des renderer aktiviert werden und es nicht zu einem Crash kommt.


@ Land that quote from xardas is a advice that you need a powerful weapon, you don't really need uriziel to kill the dragons. A other weapon is also effective.

Tentarr
10.09.2017, 15:31
Sehr schade. Bei mir hat das immer funktioniert :dnuhr:

Tharr
10.09.2017, 17:42
Hello I'm back.

I need some pointers of what to do in the valley of Adanos, or what's it's name.

I found around some things:
10 unreadable ancient stone tablets,
one magical ancient tablet
3 pieces of road
key water-carrier
What to do with them?
I'm now at the Giant Temple of Amu'Anos there are 2 named mini sleepers in front of it that I can' kill in the normal manner, what's the catch ? You can't drop some pillar in their head like for the Karakusta (EPIC).
Speaking of Karakusta, if you continue venturing you will eventually enter in a new area and find a closed temple, the only way inside I bound it was like a beetle bug transformation, but inside I didn't find nothing of value and you can't teleport from that area, so no return, stuck.
There is another Maya pyramid with a closed door, how to open it?

Tentarr
10.09.2017, 18:00
Hi tharr here a few answers.

First the routine for the desert:

You have to find the 4 temple/ temple ruins and kill all undead and seeker demons, then open the 4 chests there with the keys from the guardians. then go to the middle of the desert and interact with the statues there,
then you can get the golden thing from the pyramid in the southwest,
then go the new area with the sealed temple, that where you can´t teleport away,
the entrance is not the sealed gate, it´s when you are walking the slope to the gate then you can climp up the rocks on the left side and then jump from the higher ground to the temple,
then follow the path of the temple and find the tear of adanos,
in your inventory combine the golden thing and the tear and get the new golden amulett
Now 5 stone guardins spawn in the desert, find all of them, kill them and loot the stone pieces. To kill the stone guardians, wear the new golden amulet and use the hammer which is effective against all stone guardians. Then Combine again in your inventory the 5 stone pieces.
Then go to the north pyramid and kill the two seeker demons, to damage them the two demon needs to stand together. Then collect the stone table from them.
Then go to the pyramid in the southwest and interact with the stone table in the smaller building, then read the new stone table in your inventory,
then enter the pyramid in the north, read all stone tables there and do the new tasks after that, everything is clear.

The unreadable stone tables are for a quest from riordian he will give you this quest some time after you enter the desert. IN total ther are 15 stone tables to find.
Key water carrier is a item to use the fountain near the buikding in the center of the desert, with the fountain and empty bottles you can create adanos water which fully heals you.

CaptainErwin
10.09.2017, 18:13
Moin!
Ich hab ne Frage zu der Aufnahmequest von Onar mit der Krypta: Die Umgebung soll von Monstern gecleant werden. Gesagt getan, geh ich zu ihm zurück, hat er keine Gesprächsoption. Komme ich am nächsten Tag Mittags zu ihm, labert er plötzlich was von seinen Laidies (???)
Verarscht mich Onar mich nur, damit er nen Grund hat mich billiger zu bezahlen?

Söldner werden kann ich zwar trotzdem, aber ich würd gern wissen ob das normal ist, oder ob es nen anderen Lösungsweg gibt?

Tentarr
10.09.2017, 18:21
Er verarscht dich keineswegs hier stößt einfach nur die google Übersetzung an seine Grenzen.
Zuerst bittet dich Onar das Gebiet um die Kyrpta freizuräumen, damit ist das Gebiet von den Feldern von Sekobs Hof bis zur Krypta gemeint sowie von Onars Hof zur Kyrpta.
Zusätzlich will Onar das du das bis zum nächsten Tag erledigst und dich dann Mittags (12 Uhr) bei ihm meldest.
Sobald du das getan hast und dich wieder bei ihm meldest, trägt Onar dir auf, auf seine Frauen aufzupassen, diese wollen nämlich zur Krypta spazierengehen.
Gemeint sind seine Frau Maria und seine Tocher Elena.
Nun wird es etwas tricky.
Elena läuft nämlich selbst sofort los, weswegen der Weg von Onar zur Krypta auf jeden Fall frei sein muss, da sie sonst stirbt. Dafür muss man sie auch nicht beachten.
Maria befindet sich genau um 12 Uhr im Raum mit Onar und man muss jedoch genügend Abstand zu ihr halten bis sie losläuft. Sobald sie aus dem Haus ist, muss man ihr einfach nur folgen und bei der Krypta mit ihr sprechen, danach die Quest bei Onar abgeben.

CaptainErwin
10.09.2017, 20:38
Vielen Dank schonmal für deine schnelle Antwort!

Leider will sich Maria patout nicht rühren, wenn ich die Quest von Onar bekomme und Elena seh ich nirgendwo mehr, nichmal bei der Krypta...
Gibt es eine ganz bestimmte Position an der ich stehen muss, oder eine bestimmte Richtung von der aus ich Onar anquatschen muss, damit das Quest richtig startet?

Hab auch keine Dialogoption bei Maria um sie irgendwie zum fortbewegen zu motivieren.

Tentarr
10.09.2017, 20:45
Lauf mal nach Annahme der quest bis circa zur Tür von onars Raum und bleib da stehen.
Es ist deswegen so tricky, da du nicht zu nah oder zu weit weg stehen darfst.
Elena spielt keine Rolle sie läuft einen wirklich komplizierten weg zur krypta, wenn du allerdings mit Maria dort bist, steht sie immer da.
Maria sollte eigentlich automatisch los laufen und hat daher auch keinen Dialog. Die Entfernung ist dabei derzeit problematisch, wird in der nächsten Version verbessert.

Landros
11.09.2017, 09:16
@ Monster Nein das geht nicht, es kann auch sein das du linke shift taste plus die numblock zahlen drücken musst.

@ beast wenn du die tasten für die tränke nutzen willst, schalt doch einfach den numblock aus, dann sollten die hotkeys gehen, da bei deaktiviertem numblock dann nicht die Funktionen des renderer aktiviert werden und es nicht zu einem Crash kommt.


@ Land that quote from xardas is a advice that you need a powerful weapon, you don't really need uriziel to kill the dragons. A other weapon is also effective.

Thanks a lot. I tought that it was something new introduced by the mod. Thus I couldn't help but imagine my hardened, master of the sword and shield paladin being forced to fight using Uriziel with just the starting 5% ability in two handed... O_o Its Returning after all. The russian masochism is legendary... especially judging by my current HARD playtrough. Its hell! Help! O_o

I was lucky enough to slay the named lurker in the middle of the lake by running circles around it once health was low... but there's no such luck involving the named goblin berserker at the test of fire cave... (and best of all! Ice block doesn't work on it) O_o

And I do have heavy militia armor... (fine armor by the way) wich it was hell to obtain. Fought all the bandits by kiting them and slaying them one by one. It took a long time, let me tell you.

And best of all... on hard, the storm spell you get lying around isn't enough to slay them all. The heavier armored bandits just shrug it off at about a third of their health! Fun time! :P


What did I get myself into? O_o
But its still awesome!

EDIT: And soon... soon... Elex is gonna come out! Fun times to live in (gaming wise), if we avoind dying in atomic fallout.

Landros
11.09.2017, 11:43
Oh... during the "Dark Web" quest. The one in witch you are tasked by Lord Hagen to find out who really killed the assholl paladin Lothar, what do I need to do after talking with Vatras (finding the ring) and speaking with Benets apprentice for the first time? Can't find anyone else to speak to about the said fellow (Hodges?) so as to find out about something to black mail him with and ensure he's gonna speak sence.

Tentarr
11.09.2017, 11:48
You need a rhetoric value of 50 or above to convince hodges to talk the truth about the crime.

Tharr
11.09.2017, 16:45
I'm in the Ancestors Valley, in the temple from which you can't teleport and I can't pass the spike trap, I killed the stone guardian, and I'm trapped. I can't find any switch or something...

Tentarr
11.09.2017, 17:01
There are two ways, either you are hit by the guardian and he throw you to the other side or you can climp up on the left or the right side that stone, use the slow walking button to climp up to the top and jump from there. But the second options is a way harder.

Tharr
11.09.2017, 17:38
I have the gold scepter and the tears of Adanos , but how to combine them in my inventory. When I select the scepter it says that it does not work, and the pearl can't be selected.

Tentarr
11.09.2017, 17:44
You have to go back to the desert and combine them there.

SumpfkrautUser
11.09.2017, 20:30
Heay, habe ein Problem: Ich habe in der Stadt der Orks folgende Quests gemacht:

1. Die mit der Waffe für den Anführer
2. Die mit dem Buch für den Schamanen
3. Bin Champ der Arena

Der liebe Ur-Trall möchte aber nichts von meinem Angebot über den Schläfertempel hören und schickt mich weg.§cry
In die Eisenmiene komme ich auch nicht und kann somit auch nicht die Waffen der Orks nutzen..§cry
Was habe ich übersehen?:dnuhr::dnuhr::dnuhr:

Danke im Voraus für eure Antwort(en).


(bin Kapitel 4)$§p4$§p4

Tentarr
11.09.2017, 20:38
Je nach Version musst du etwas anderes machen.
Ich nehme einfach an das du die aktuelle Version spielst, dann musst du zuerst den Dämon im alten Sumpf Lager killen, dann musst du die quest vermisst von garond machen, dazu musst du zuerst mit talbin, dann mit jergan reden, dann nochmal mit garond, dann mit thrall wobei du einen Rhetorik Wert von 50 oder höher brauchst um thrall zu überzeugen dich in die Mine zu lassen, nachdem du mit der Mine fertig bist, lässt er dich in den Tempel.

SumpfkrautUser
11.09.2017, 20:40
Je nach Version musst du etwas anderes machen.
Ich nehme einfach an das du die aktuelle Version spielst, dann musst du zuerst den Dämon im alten Sumpf Lager killen, dann musst du die quest vermisst von garond machen, dazu musst du zuerst mit talbin, dann mit jergan reden, dann nochmal mit garond, dann mit thrall wobei du einen Rhetorik Wert von 50 oder höher brauchst um thrall zu überzeugen dich in die Mine zu lassen, nachdem du mit der Mine fertig bist, lässt er dich in den Tempel.




Juhuu danke für deine schnelle Antwort!§wink:gratz:gratz

Tharr
12.09.2017, 12:01
The desert of Adanos is the most boring place, I'm looking fro the fifth stone guardian for almost 2 hours unsuccessful §cry

Natatos
12.09.2017, 13:16
Here you can find a map of the adanos valley:
http://rpgrussia.com/index.php?topic=8773.msg267708#msg267708

And here would be the link to the map, sadly the russians dont post a bigger map for everyone available:
http://rpgrussia.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8773.0;attach=30596;image
You need to look for the sand-coloured towers

Tentarr
12.09.2017, 14:24
Hier damit man es besser sieht:

45976

SumpfkrautUser
12.09.2017, 14:54
Ich bins nochmal.§wink

Habe die gesamte Orkmine nach dem Mechanismus für den Teleportstein durchsucht aber leider nicht gefunden.§cry (Nur den Teleporter habe ich gefunden)

Und ich habe mit allen Orks geredet die einen Namen haben.

Tharr
12.09.2017, 14:54
Here you can find a map of the adanos valley:
http://rpgrussia.com/index.php?topic=8773.msg267708#msg267708

And here would be the link to the map, sadly the russians dont post a bigger map for everyone available:
http://rpgrussia.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8773.0;attach=30596;image
You need to look for the sand-coloured towers

Thank you Natatos and Tentarr after you posted I find it in 5 minutes! And I saved the map Tentarr posted.
If you guys have another helping maps like this please pute them here are very useful!
By the way , I think that the map maker dude from Khorinis could make a map to the valley, from the stone, like the complete one of VoM. Good suggestion for the modders...

Tentarr
12.09.2017, 14:58
@ Sumpf bin mir grad nicht sicher was du genau meinst.

Du sollst in der Mine ( im unteren Teil) nur den Teleportstein selbst finden und diesen dann dem Magier bringen. Du benutzt selbst nicht den Teleporter.

Tharr
12.09.2017, 18:01
I'm next to the tree of life with the root of life from the druid but I don't know how to root it into the tree or what to do with it. If I activate it in my inventory it gets eaten by NH :dnuhr:

Tentarr
12.09.2017, 18:10
You have to go to the circle of life, it´s near the tree, there is also a teleporter. There is a stone altar which you have to use.

Tharr
12.09.2017, 18:42
I purify myself entered in the sacred chamber, took the crown of Adanos, wear it(no journal entries) what to do next? §wink

Tentarr
12.09.2017, 18:48
Normally after you left the pyramid there should be a tracking shot to your next goal.
You have to go to the cave in the north, it´s path at the mountrains at the left side of the north pyramid, go there, follow the path and at the glowling light pray while you are wearing the crown and/or the golden scepter and the follow the invisible path to the other side.

Tharr
12.09.2017, 19:19
Normally after you left the pyramid there should be a tracking shot to your next goal.
You have to go to the cave in the north, it´s path at the mountrains at the left side of the north pyramid, go there, follow the path and at the glowling light pray while you are wearing the crown and/or the golden scepter and the follow the invisible path to the other side.

I have a big problem with visibility in Gothic 2, more of it with DX 11, all the objects are rendered when they are close to me, far away I see just a empty world, when I approach start to be seen trees, bushes, buildings, etc.
That's why I didn't find the Rock Guardians and a lot of things, and now I don't see that light.

For adjusting visibility in Gothic.ini there are:

sightValue=14 range of visibility: 0=20% ... 14=300%

zVobFarClipZScale=3 with this setting you can tune the object visibility range. (range: 1..3)

There is something else to help me, some suggestions?

Tharr
12.09.2017, 20:41
I have a question regarding demon S'enyak. If I summon and kill him without using the spell "cross of elements" there is a problem? It dies nevertheless ...
How can it's soul be trapped again in the sword(as alternative) ? Bad English translation ...

For the creation of "Rune Sigil" I need RESIN , what's that, the residue from cutting tree? How to obtain it, not in inventory ...

Also I have 3 pieces of adamant in my inventory, for what is needed? This is a references to adamantium from X Men? Or the mineral adamant=diamond ?

Where in the Valley of Ancestors is that famous armor/ toughest from the game can be found? In the temple I killed Raven was a dexterity based one...Er'Hazira.

Landros
12.09.2017, 21:16
Adamant... probably adamantium. :P No idead of course...

Another question. In the Assasin Guild chain of quests, what the solving of the last quest "foxhole". I remember reading something about Dexter's bandit camp. That would be awesome. Could you please tell me what to do? Thanks a lot for the patience.

Tentarr
12.09.2017, 21:39
@ Tharr

You can only kill the demon with the cross of elements or if you have the soul stealer ability.
To get the soul eater ability you have to talk about this possiblity with the golden dragon, then with xardas, then go to the habor to the place where rengaru runs after you expose him as a thief, there should be a new named paladin, talk with him three times and beat him up, after that talk with him and force him to talk about information, then steal the key from hagen, then go to the paladin island, entrance is in the cave near the gras camp near the black troll. There find the amulet and pray to Beliar, then use the rune.

Resin = pitch

Adamant no use except for selling them

In the building where you fight raven the second time there is in the right room a teleporter, you can use them after raven is dead, you have to claw of beliar, have more than 2000 hp and have more than 350 str or dex or more than 800 Mana.

@ Land you have to clear the distiller cave in the dark wood. Kill the goblin there and open the gate, then talk with the assissan woman.

Tharr
12.09.2017, 21:48
@ Tharr

You can only kill the demon with the cross of elements or if you have the soul stealer ability.
To get the soul eater ability you have to talk about this possiblity with the golden dragon, then with xardas, then go to the habor to the place where rengaru runs after you expose him as a thief, there should be a new named paladin, talk with him three times and beat him up, after that talk with him and force him to talk about information, then steal the key from hagen, then go to the paladin island, entrance is in the cave near the gras camp near the black troll. There find the amulet and pray to Beliar, then use the rune.


But I killed the Demon without casting any spell! Does that mean that I already had in my inventory the cross of elements? I remember that I had collected all the spheres for the Keeper's Quests.
Good that I have a save prior to killing the demon, I will return and steal his soul! It will make the Claw better? How much affinity with Beliar I have to have to improve it. For the moment at -10 Beliar hates my guts :D

Landros
12.09.2017, 22:27
Time for another bug... Saturas asks for Vatra's letter so as to give me the key to the portal... but Vatras doesn't give me anything. I've already been inducted into the ring of water O_o

Tharr
13.09.2017, 04:11
Time for another bug... Saturas asks for Vatra's letter so as to give me the key to the portal... but Vatras doesn't give me anything. I've already been inducted into the ring of water O_o
Have you spoke with, and killed Dexter? Until you don't present Vatras with Dexter's letter, he won't give you his consent , if I remember correctly.
Have you imprisoned the weapon seller?

Landros
13.09.2017, 05:22
Yes and yes. You can't join the ring if water if you don't.

Tentarr
13.09.2017, 05:42
It was my fault tharr I misread your text.if you kill the demon without the soul catcher ability you can't use the claw.I don't think you have the cross, you actually need to craft this one.You have to pray at least one time to beliar to get the ability and probably a second one if you want to do the the helper quest from beliar.

@ land I don't think it's a bug, never one that can't solve this quest.did you bring all the stone pieces of the ornament to nefarian and complete the portal ring quest?

Landros
13.09.2017, 09:42
I did... but it seams it has resolved it self O_o I just had to speak to Hagen again about entering the Valley of Mines, to be told to help the water mages first.

How can I find out how much Rhetoric I've got? In the character sheet, rhetoric isn't even mentioned.

monsterfresser
13.09.2017, 09:45
Hey Leute,

da es gerade ziemlich schwer für mich ist gegen die Steinwächter zu kämpfen(dex char) habe ich magic arrows craften gelernt.
Nur ist das Problem, dass Rock crystals ziemlich selten zu finden sind. Kennt ihr Händler die das verkaufen oder wisst ihr woher man
das in Massen kriegt?

Tharr
13.09.2017, 10:00
I did... but it seams it has resolved it self O_o I just had to speak to Hagen again about entering the Valley of Mines, to be told to help the water mages first.

How can I find out how much Rhetoric I've got? In the character sheet, rhetoric isn't even mentioned.
Press B , go o skills (anvil and hammer) and scroll down with low arrow, rhetoric is next to languages.
You can increase rhetoric by reading books, lie/persuade about thieving when you're caught ( simplest way) and some special dialogues. That' all the way I know, may be more of it.

Also a question for Tentarr and other guru players :

Except for praying , what exactly increase and what exactly decrease the influence with Innos and Belliar. Also they are interconnected(influences)?
Per example by killing undead seems that it pleases Innos, does Belliar hate it?

Observation: simple pray you can do also in your inventory statues of Innos or the small statue of demon.
The valuable statue of Innos have some more options?

There are other things like this that weren't in original G2?

Tentarr
13.09.2017, 11:30
@ Land try to increase your rhetoric skill very early, you need it for several quests and you can change the outcomes of quests and dialoges with this skill.

@ monster
Wird hauptsächlich von alchemie oder Magierhändler verkauft. Ansonsten schauen das du eine str Waffe mit stumpfen schaden findest, du du mit ringen oder dergleichen tragen kannst. Sobald du den Steinhammer im Zuge der Quest mit dem goldenen Drachen hast, sind Steinwächter eh nur noch witzgegner.

@ tharr

Most enemies doesn´t influence your karma with the gods. Exceptions are direct servants like paladins for innos or seeker, dragons or beliar mages for beliar.
If you belong to a gods guild, then praying become interconnected, like as a firemage and you pray to beliar your innos karma will decrease, if you are a guru, dragonhunter, guardian or watermage that effect won´t happen.

You can do your daily pray to the innos statues or the demon one but you can´t use the gift option or increse your karma with gold at these ones.

Addtional to the karma counter there is also a crime counter, every time you steal items or do pickpockets these crime counters are increasing if your orayer count is smaller than your crime count your god will not listen to you.

Bimor
13.09.2017, 11:53
Hey Leute,

da es gerade ziemlich schwer für mich ist gegen die Steinwächter zu kämpfen(dex char) habe ich magic arrows craften gelernt.
Nur ist das Problem, dass Rock crystals ziemlich selten zu finden sind. Kennt ihr Händler die das verkaufen oder wisst ihr woher man
das in Massen kriegt?

Nur durch sammeln und ab und an bei Händlern kaufen, aber Massen kommen da auch nicht zusammen. Wenn du die Quests der Jägergilde im 2. Kapitel soweit abeschlossen hast, müsstest du den speziellen Schuss bei Raffa lernen können (kostet allerdings ne Menge LP und Gold). Mit diesem kannst du "normalen" Bogenschaden an Skeletten, Steinwächtern und Trolle machen ( hängt dann von deinem Bogenskill ab), wird also für den späteren Spielverlauf als Dexchar auch nötig. Das könnte helfen, ansonsten lerne ich immer die Feuerregenspruchrolle herstellen bei Gallahad. Gerade in den Räumen mit 6 Steinwächtern spart das einige Nerven ;)

Natatos
13.09.2017, 12:05
Hallöchen,

ich habe im Schläfertempel diese Schläfermaske gefunden,
da ich auf die 2000 EXP verzichtet habe und sie nun aufsetzen kann, gewährt sie mir die Fähigkeit "Sleeping Eye". Leider konnte ich nicht herausfinden was diese bringt.

Weißt das jemand?

Landros
13.09.2017, 12:12
Tentarr... I had a filling that Rhetoric will have some impact. :P Right now, it stands at a low 25% (beginner).

What doest the Intelligence attribute affect? Is it important for a strength based paladin?

Tentarr
13.09.2017, 12:34
@ Natatos, damit sollten deine Zauber den Effekt der normalen Guruzauber bekommen, sprich das du random gegner einschlafen lässt.

@ Land
Intelligence increases spell damge but only for characters with mage guild. So you won´t need it.

Tharr
13.09.2017, 15:12
Tentarr... I had a filling that Rhetoric will have some impact. :P Right now, it stands at a low 25% (beginner).

What doest the Intelligence attribute affect? Is it important for a strength based paladin?
Landros , what guild are you now?

What guild you intend to be next time? If will ever be a next time for you...

Tharr
13.09.2017, 16:21
@ Tharr
In the building where you fight raven the second time there is in the right room a teleporter, you can use them after raven is dead, you have to claw of beliar, have more than 2000 hp and have more than 350 str or dex or more than 800 Mana.

I Have more than 2000 HP I have more than 350 STR but the Claw is not converted, so I dn wear it, dos mean that I can't enter in that special room to take the uberarmor?

Tentarr
13.09.2017, 16:35
You can enter it but save before it, you can´t leave the new area untill you kill the final boss.

Tharr
13.09.2017, 16:55
For the quest Ancient Curse, Rademes ( or how is called that ancient ghost) use to be next to Saturas on the road to the golden dragon.
I have to inform him that I lifted the curse but he vanish without a trace...:dnuhr:

Also what's the best way to defeat the ghost Asinok, the one who sown souls who if not pacified become undead? It seem that I do a very little damage to it and until I kill all the soul he completely regenerate ...

My silver weapon, same like the Innos Rage is almost useless .

wedka
13.09.2017, 18:20
Hi everyone.
I have a question about Bow of Shadows given by Falk after we beat him. Is it kinda bugged or just arrows are piercing enemy's armor so often that any other bows are worse than that? I.e. i own bow from Gonzales - damage is always the same (bow dmg+dex-enemy's armor = damage), but Bow of Shadows sometimes inflict normal 550-600 dmg and sometimes 800-1000. This makes this bow far better than any other - should it work that way?

Landros
13.09.2017, 19:57
Landros , what guild are you now?

What guild you intend to be next time? If will ever be a next time for you...

At the moment, I'm in the militia, thus I'll be a paladin. Next, I would like to try a templar of the brotherhood and after a mage of fire. It all depends on how long it takes for me to finish this first playtrough, as next month Elex is gonna come out, and I'll be playing that fo a while. :D

Tentarr
13.09.2017, 19:57
@ tharr

The ghost sometime switch the place between road to golden dragon and his first spawn point in the temple at the water mage camp in yarkendar.

You need a legendary weapon, silver weapons are too weak. Kill the souls quicker.

@ wedka
You have forgot the different arrow types, the bow of shadow has its own arrow type which has a random bonus damage effect.

wedka
13.09.2017, 21:37
@Tentarr
Ok, so it makes bow of shadows OP, other bows even if they have much higher base damage, in overall they are weaker. Maybe in 7th Chapter there will be something more powerful, but using one bow almost entire game isn't much fun ;)

Tentarr
14.09.2017, 06:16
There are other bows with much more base damage, also you have to think it depends a little bit on which difficulty level you are playing.
The arrows you need for the bow can only be made daily by bosper and it´s limited to 50 arrows. On hard and legendary you can´t sleep every time you can´t make infinite arrows for the bow.
I know that if you are bospers apprentice you can learn how to do the arrows by yourself but I don´t remeber at the materials you need but I was thinking you was alawys also limited to produce them.

wedka
14.09.2017, 08:02
Yea, unfortunately on normal difficulty I can buy as much arrows as I want. Sure I could not use that bow at all but why not using it when it's 2-times better than any other;)

Tharr
14.09.2017, 09:48
At the moment, I'm in the militia, thus I'll be a paladin. Next, I would like to try a templar of the brotherhood and after a mage of fire. It all depends on how long it takes for me to finish this first playtrough, as next month Elex is gonna come out, and I'll be playing that fo a while. :D
Then you fallow the same path like me, and intent to be as me next time a Templar, for the third time I tough to be a dark mage.$§p4

Landros
14.09.2017, 10:55
Hello again! Yep... more questions. If it ever gets tiring pls let me know. :P I'll take a break from asking...

1) Whats the deal with Merdarions "Strange Ruins" quest? I found the strange ruins in the canion (a teleport platform near the cave in the canyon) but there's nothing there to interact with.

2) How do I make a "green novice" swampweed role? In Vanilla, you would do it at the alchemy stand. Now... no idea. At the alchemy stand in the tabaco section there's only the option to blend tabaco.(honey, dark mushroom, swampweed) No green novice option.

Tentarr
14.09.2017, 11:07
Never tired^^ Questions are the purpose of a forum.

1. That quest you solve automatic after you achieve to use the teleporter, so don´t worry about that one.
2. You need to use a new work table, it´s a bog pot with a seat, it´s in font of fortuno. To use it you need a stomper can be found in the room where the water mages sleep in yarkendar, it´s in one of the corners of the room.

Landros
14.09.2017, 11:42
Thanks a lot mate! You've got tremendous reserves of patience! :D

Landros
14.09.2017, 12:34
And again... another question.

This one is regarding the NPC "Loa".

What should I do regarding her?
I just went and spoke to her and she starting speaking to me as if we had met at the lighthouse, wich we didn't. (nameless: after our meting at the lighthouse... etc. wtf? O_o) All I ever met at the lighthouse were three bandits and afterwards, Jack asking me for a new pipe.
And then, I got a new quest "Forgothen memories Loa". In witch of course I haven't got the faintest idea what to do, and I don't really understand much froms its pseudo-english translation sadly... Usually I do, but not now...

So, what would the normal evolution of questing with her be?
What should I have done for her to speak with me?

I loaded a previous save and I'll live it be till I get some wisdom from you Tentarr :D

Edit: I mention that I've freed the missing people from the bandits and already checked on Patrick and Cord about it.

Tentarr
14.09.2017, 12:51
Okay normal process:

Go to the shooting range at onars farm at 18:40, look at the loas dance, yes it will take 10 minutes of time, talk with her that you are better than the people on onars farm, this starts the quest ghost.... you have to collect three items for loa,
1. poem or lyrics, can be bought by matteo,
2. a necklace of black pearls, need 5 black pearls and matteo need his tools back, then he will make the necklace for you.
3. A flower blue... find at the way to the golden dragon in yarkendar.
Give all three items to loa and never ask for a reward. Addtional if you want to correct solve this, never sleep with one of the bitches in the harbor.
Then meet her at the lighthouse at 24 hours at the same day you finished the quest, its a failure in her dialoag that she is talking about the next day, talk with her, first and second answers are the same thing she was saysing, the last answers is i can understand them.
Then wait short untill loa disappear, then go down the lighthouse and go to the back of building, watch the cutscene.
Wait one day, then talk again with loa and if you have meor than 70 rhetoric you can talk with her about her sorrows.
This starts the quest forgetten memories.
1. Talk with Coragon the bar keeper and ask of food. Wait one day and collect it.
2. Go to Gorax and buy two bottles of wine.
3. Do a picknick with her.
After that you need also to do a quest in the pirates camp, go to the northern beach and go to the broken ship, talk about it with greg and with skip, find a carpenter and repair the ship. After that talk again with loa in khornis and then in yarkendar with her.
After that there is no following quest because the new area drakki is not yet ingame.

Landros
14.09.2017, 13:00
Could you also tell me were to find Mateos tools pls? :D In my first easy playtrough I got to chapter 3 and didn't get a wiff of them. Gone trough Khorinis, Jharkendar and the Valley of Mines. Of course, In the Valley of Mines I didn't get everywhere...

At the moment, I'm watching Loa spin herself around mercenaries :)) Nice addition though.

I would love to tell you guys what triggered the premature progresion of the quest, but I really haven't got the faintest idea. All I can say is that even after starting the normal progression, I've still got the "Are you crazy?" dialog option with her.

Edit: Guess I'm gonna fail the quest...I've already got the "Lover Hero" achievement :D I tought Nameless deserved some relaxing after all those hard earned fights :))

Tentarr
14.09.2017, 13:22
You can still complete the quest but you will not get the best reward.

The tools are in a chest in the thiefs island but you need the key from hannah, which you first get if you do the quests from ther sisters abigail in the pirate camp.

Landros
14.09.2017, 13:42
I already did that quest. And Hannah did say she gave me the key, but guess what!? O_o I didn't get a key. And I can't open that particular locked chest.

I did load a previous save and tried again, but to no avail. Sadly, its bugged for this play-trough.

EDIT: I checked with a more attentive eye. I do have the key, but the chest doesn't recognise it as being the right one, as it still sais "I need the right key..."

Edit 2: What can you tell me about the quest "Magic powder Galahada"?

And is there a bug report thred where I could post the bugs I find. Who knows, perhaps its gonna help the guys...

Tentarr
14.09.2017, 14:12
She don´t give you a key, she give you a wallet and inside is the key.

For the other quest, go to the pirate camp, loot a cannonball and shoot the cannon.

Tharr
14.09.2017, 17:05
@ tharr
You need a legendary weapon, silver weapons are too weak. Kill the souls quicker.

What legendary weapon Tentarr?

I tried to defeat him with Uriziel, Mad Crusader Sword, Silver Rune Sigil Sword, all legendary, all of them too weak damage and when he spawns souls, after I kill them is completely regenerated ... I fight with him for over 15 minutes and he-s still regenerating. $§p4

Landros
15.09.2017, 08:01
Regarding the quest "Magic Salvation". The one in witch Brutus the squire asks you to beg Milten to conjure a women.

Milten sais everything will be done until the next day in the afternoon. (tomorrow afternoon)

I go to Milten at that appointed time and... nothing. No new dialogue.

Tharr
15.09.2017, 08:12
Regarding the quest "Magic Salvation". The one in witch Brutus the squire asks you to beg Milten to conjure a women.

Milten sais everything will be done until the next day in the afternoon. (tomorrow afternoon)

I go to Milten at that appointed time and... nothing. No new dialogue.

I didn't had this quest. This happens in VoM, in Ch 3? Brutus is the one who's afraid of bugs, right?

Landros
15.09.2017, 08:17
Yes. But I'm still in Chapter 2. Anyway.. I managed to solve it. You had to speak to Brutus again immediately after speaking to Milten. And it was actually in the night not in the afternoon.

Tharr
15.09.2017, 09:23
Yes. But I'm still in Chapter 2. Anyway.. I managed to solve it. You had to speak to Brutus again immediately after speaking to Milten. And it was actually in the night not in the afternoon.

So, is like an Easter Egg...

Ratamahatta
15.09.2017, 10:31
What legendary weapon Tentarr?

I tried to defeat him with Uriziel, Mad Crusader Sword, Silver Rune Sigil Sword, all legendary, all of them too weak damage and when he spawns souls, after I kill them is completely regenerated ... I fight with him for over 15 minutes and he-s still regenerating. $§p4

are you playing on hard difficulty? I played with medium and hadn't big broblems with it - tried with Uriziel and Sigil swords - the faster you eliminate souls the better - and each round it respawns weaker (less hp) and if all sould eliminated afaik guardians to not respawn. :dnuhr:

Landros
16.09.2017, 09:12
Okay normal process:

Go to the shooting range at onars farm at 18:40, look at the loas dance, yes it will take 10 minutes of time, talk with her that you are better than the people on onars farm, this starts the quest ghost.... you have to collect three items for loa,
1. poem or lyrics, can be bought by matteo,
2. a necklace of black pearls, need 5 black pearls and matteo need his tools back, then he will make the necklace for you.
3. A flower blue... find at the way to the golden dragon in yarkendar.
Give all three items to loa and never ask for a reward. Addtional if you want to correct solve this, never sleep with one of the bitches in the harbor.
Then meet her at the lighthouse at 24 hours at the same day you finished the quest, its a failure in her dialoag that she is talking about the next day, talk with her, first and second answers are the same thing she was saysing, the last answers is i can understand them.
Then wait short untill loa disappear, then go down the lighthouse and go to the back of building, watch the cutscene.
Wait one day, then talk again with loa and if you have meor than 70 rhetoric you can talk with her about her sorrows.
This starts the quest forgetten memories.
1. Talk with Coragon the bar keeper and ask of food. Wait one day and collect it.
2. Go to Gorax and buy two bottles of wine.
3. Do a picknick with her.
After that you need also to do a quest in the pirates camp, go to the northern beach and go to the broken ship, talk about it with greg and with skip, find a carpenter and repair the ship. After that talk again with loa in khornis and then in yarkendar with her.
After that there is no following quest because the new area drakki is not yet ingame.

I've done everithing untill getting the "Forgothen memories" quest.

Dow that its started, I've got no dialogue options with eather Coragon or Gorax. What to do?

Tentarr
16.09.2017, 10:57
Do you have 70 rhetoric skill?
Did your hero offers Loa to do a picnic in the forest?

Landros
16.09.2017, 11:50
Ah... nope. I do not have 70 rhetoric. Will another dialog option appear once I do or should I just load a save game before talking to her?

Tentarr
16.09.2017, 12:28
You don't need to load a save, seems like you can start the quest without the rhetoric skill but Loa will first talk about this topic with 70 rhetoric skill.

KartmanX2
16.09.2017, 14:56
hänge immernoch bei der quest "dark order". komme immernoch nicht in die gruft wo inubis ist. Habe mit dem aoe spell die ganzen Skelette erwischt aber die gruft öffnet sich immernoch nicht. ne andere Idee?

Tentarr
16.09.2017, 15:17
Ich hätte grad Zeit, wenn du willst kannst du einen save hochladen und ich schau es mir an.
Sonst ist es grad schwer zu beurteilen, da man eigentlich nur den Schlüssel braucht :dnuhr:
Falls du einen hoch lädst, schreib bitte die Returning Version noch dazu, damit ich die richtige verwende.

Tharr
16.09.2017, 15:36
Any news about the release of the next version?

Tentarr
16.09.2017, 16:16
They are developing two new areas and several other things. I guess this will take some time.

Landros
16.09.2017, 17:43
Hello again. :D

Regarding the cave behind the piramid in Khorinis containing a ring of invincibility and some stone golems... how do I get inside there? I just bought the map and gave it back to Hanna. Pls tell me I didn't have to have the map. I did read it though. And can't find a switch no were...

And about those 5 books "Ancient Tale". I found only 2-5. Were would the first one be? And do they have a use, ore are they there only to be sold? Can't seam to be able to read them at the moment.

Tentarr
16.09.2017, 18:23
In the small building next to the pyramid is a hidden stone pillar switch, it's in the left corner behind some grass.

The books are for a fire mage quest but everybody can find them, so just sell them to galahand.

Landros
16.09.2017, 22:48
What about the quest "people camp" in witch I need to find people to hire at the former bandit/dark stranger tower, nowadays my private little fort. Who do I have to hire as a manager? I tought Ganerni and Viper would be greath choices, but no dialogue options with them.

Tentarr
16.09.2017, 22:55
Viper is a miner and the other one just an idiot :p
There are only two manager possible, it´s either erol or the former assistent of fernando, he is staying in orlans tavern.
After you hire a manager you can hire the rest of the people for your camp.

Landros
16.09.2017, 23:44
So... Gaverni is some sort of easter egg? Like Mud in Gothic 1? :D A guy the team knows and despises?

I wonder what Pyrokar and Xardas were telling each other at the circle of the sun O_o

Tentarr
17.09.2017, 00:13
Something like mud however you can use him for a quest but he is the worst outcome.

It's a rather funny dialog about xardas betray and the book halls of irdorat.

Natatos
17.09.2017, 12:02
Moinsen,

weiß jemand einen Tipp wie man als Nekromant "Ekron. the damn tree" besiegen kann?
Der heilt sich zwar immer etwas wenn er Wölfe beschwört, aber das ist noch zu verkraften.
Allerdings resettet der sich bei mir beim zweiten Wölfe beschwören immer. Egal ob ich direkt vor ihm oder weiter weg stehe. Seine und meine Position ist auch egal.
Oder soll der sich ein paar mal resetten und voll Heilen?:dnuhr:

EDIT: Cheaten funktioniert hier auch nicht, der Marvin Mode scheint auf der Insel komplett verbuggt/disabled zu sein.

Tentarr
17.09.2017, 12:34
Resetten soll er sich nicht, eigentlich einfach die drei Wölfe killen und weiter auf ihn drauf.
Marvin mode ist mit Absicht ausgestellt, da es in dem Bereich die besten Belohnungen gibt und man die nicht ercheaten soll, deswegen gibt's auch Max Werte für dieses Gebiet.
Alternativ falls gar nichts geht, du könntest ihn mit einer nahkampf Waffe an eine wand drängen und ihn dort mit dauerhaften Seiten Schlägen festhalten, damit verhindert man jede Fähigkeit von ihm, dürfte halt auf Grund des niedrigen Stab Schadens etwas dauern bis er tot ist.

Beim reset teleportiert er sich dabei ein kleines Stück?

KartmanX2
17.09.2017, 12:39
https://www.file-upload.net/download-12714815/current.zip.html

spiele die version 0065.

hoffe ich habs richtig hochgeladen :D

Lord Lycidas
17.09.2017, 13:35
Huhu, bin seit langer Zeit mal wieder zum zocken gekommen,

allerdings sind die Boss-Gegner als Mage völlig unmöglich, zB die im Betreff genannten, das sind die Guardians auf dem Plateau Adanos.
man bekommt instant verflucht status..und dann 25k HP, kp wie das funktionieren soll. Jemand als Mage schon geschafft?

Natatos
17.09.2017, 15:28
Huhu, bin seit langer Zeit mal wieder zum zocken gekommen,

allerdings sind die Boss-Gegner als Mage völlig unmöglich, zB die im Betreff genannten, das sind die Guardians auf dem Plateau Adanos.
man bekommt instant verflucht status..und dann 25k HP, kp wie das funktionieren soll. Jemand als Mage schon geschafft?

So leicht sind die Schläferviecher auch nicht, die rauben einem für jeden Hit das Mana und heilen sich ebenfalls mit jeden Schlag.
Hit and Run funktioniert definitv, allerdings empfehle ich als Magier die Umgebung zu nutzen. Greif den Boss ein mal an und schau ob du irgendwo rauf klettern kannst, wo du den Boss treffen kannst er aber dich nicht.
Bei den 2 Wächtern die nahe beieinander stehen müssen gibt es kaum Orte, außerdem sind die sowieso etwas Buggy wenn du einen tötest, musst du den zweiten an seiner Leiche töten, auch wenn die Leiche weg ist....
Bei den einem am "Temple Square" kann man an eine Ecke der größeren Pyramide klettern, da ist es aber auch ein bisschen tricky.;)
Als Mage schafft man die meisten Bosse sowieso nur wenn man irgendwo hoch klettert, weshalb spätere Bosse die dich zwingen fast im Nahkampf zu bleiben echt mies designed sind. :(


Hier nochmal eine Frage nachdem ich diesen miesen Holzgolem und den Rest endlich geschafft hatte. EDIT: Ja er hat sich ein paar Meter teleportiert nachdem er sich zurückgesetzt hatte.

Bei der Segnung der Nekromantenrobe mit Senyaks Seele wird diese besser als mit normalen Seelen und man erhählt die Fähigkeit "Call of Darkness" was bringt die denn?

Tentarr
17.09.2017, 15:55
Hier Kart dein Savegame mit geöffneter Kyrpta.

https://www.file-upload.net/download-12715145/savegame8.rar.html

Du musst eventuell mehrmals download drücken, bis du eine Zip runterladen kannst, manchmal will der hoster dich verarschen und dir eine nutzlose iso datei unterschieben.
Ich habe den Save umbannt, da ich meinen Current nicht löschen/kopieren wollte, aber das ist ja kein Problem.

@ Natatos wie alle spezial Fähigkeiten die nicht passiv sind, musst du sie mit "G" aktivieren.

Natatos
17.09.2017, 16:25
Ah ich hab nun herausgefunden was Call of Darkness bringt;

Sobald man einen Gegner mit seinen Zaubern tötet besteht eine Chance, dass: bei einem Ork ein Orkskelett / bei einem Menschen ein Skelettkrieger beschworen wird.

Allerdings scheint die Fähigkeit Passiv zu sein, da G bei mir nichts macht, bzw. die Taste nicht belegt ist und ich die Fähigkeit anscheinend auch nicht abschalten kann, naja die Beschworenen Viecher ziehen zum Glück keine Aufmerksamkeit auf sich.:D

Lord Lycidas
17.09.2017, 16:32
So leicht sind die Schläferviecher auch nicht, die rauben einem für jeden Hit das Mana und heilen sich ebenfalls mit jeden Schlag.
Hit and Run funktioniert definitv, allerdings empfehle ich als Magier die Umgebung zu nutzen. Greif den Boss ein mal an und schau ob du irgendwo rauf klettern kannst, wo du den Boss treffen kannst er aber dich nicht.
Bei den 2 Wächtern die nahe beieinander stehen müssen gibt es kaum Orte, außerdem sind die sowieso etwas Buggy wenn du einen tötest, musst du den zweiten an seiner Leiche töten, auch wenn die Leiche weg ist....
Bei den einem am "Temple Square" kann man an eine Ecke der größeren Pyramide klettern, da ist es aber auch ein bisschen tricky.;)
Als Mage schafft man die meisten Bosse sowieso nur wenn man irgendwo hoch klettert, weshalb spätere Bosse die dich zwingen fast im Nahkampf zu bleiben echt mies designed sind. :(


Hier nochmal eine Frage nachdem ich diesen miesen Holzgolem und den Rest endlich geschafft hatte. EDIT: Ja er hat sich ein paar Meter teleportiert nachdem er sich zurückgesetzt hatte.

Bei der Segnung der Nekromantenrobe mit Senyaks Seele wird diese besser als mit normalen Seelen und man erhählt die Fähigkeit "Call of Darkness" was bringt die denn?

also hit und run ist ja schön und gut, aber wenn ich nach jedem hit ne 2 minütige mana strafe bekomme, kann ich nix mehr machen...und ich kann nicht jedes mal holy water nehmen..so viel gibts davon nicht...

SumpfkrautUser
17.09.2017, 18:27
Bräuchte da nochmal eure Hilfe... Wo ist der Teleporter in der Orkeisenmiene.. ich finde den nicht��

Danke schonmal im Voraus für eure Antworten!

Edit: hat sich grad erledigt ich bin so doof!

Natatos
17.09.2017, 20:49
also hit und run ist ja schön und gut, aber wenn ich nach jedem hit ne 2 minütige mana strafe bekomme, kann ich nix mehr machen...und ich kann nicht jedes mal holy water nehmen..so viel gibts davon nicht...

Deswegen empfehle ich (wie oben) immer, den Boss zu hitten und dann irgendwo raufzuklettern, der Fernkampfangriff dieser Schläferviecher ist nicht so stark und wird auch selten gecastet.
In der Adanos-Wüste -praktisch überall außer die Bosse resetten sich, weil sie extrem schwer für Ranges designed wurden - gibt es für fast jeden Boss eine Möglichkeit hinter einer Deckung oder einem auf einen Felsen/Vorsprung die Gegner zu töten.
Das erfordert zwar ein bisschen Übung da man so auch manche Bossmechaniken nicht umgehen kann, lohnt sich aber auch, da man nicht getroffen wird dabei.$§p4

KartmanX2
17.09.2017, 22:08
dank dir Tentarr,

was hast du denn gemacht das sich die Gruft öffnet?

Tentarr
17.09.2017, 22:21
Ich hab in deinem save die Schlüssel trigger neu gesetzt und danach ganz einfach die beiden Schalter erneut betätigt.

Landros
18.09.2017, 07:24
During Kelio's Ritual of Fire... the one with the lava lake and spirits of fire, there's a Magic Foundry there with a some magic billits. Whats the deal with it?

Tentarr
18.09.2017, 07:51
It´s for a quest from the orc city but to do this one, you need to play on harder or above, have not going to the fire world and do the quests in the orc city first.
You can get the best crossbow in game or trade him for a alternative reward like stats.

Landros
18.09.2017, 10:06
Well... I missedthat. Next playtrough tough.

Another one... the quest "Damned Soul" from Greg. I didn't manage to do it... but what should I have done? I talked to Pyrokar and the prikly bastard didn't wanna help the fellow out, so I went and told Greg. Thus, ruined quest I believe. But I remember watching something on youtube in witch Greg was wearing a knights armor... perhaps in the next playtrough?

What should I have done? O_o

EDIT: regarding the forging of the sword "rune sigil". What does "moonstone" refer to? I do have everything else... and I was of the idea that moonstone refered to "rock crystal", but it seams it isn't. Were do I find the bloody thing? Also, the spell "harming undead" is "destroy undead" right?

I repeat... I do have everything else. 2x black ore, 11 x runes, 2 x mercury, 2 x black perls, 20 x sulfur, etc.

Tentarr
18.09.2017, 10:40
For Greg you need 50 rhetoric and talk with pyrokar, then you can give gold to pyrokar to save gregs soul, if you give more gold then you get a better reward from greg.
Greg in palain armor is an other thing, just do all quests for the pirates and you will see in the 7. chapter.

You can find moonstone only in the adanos desert. One drops from a boss in the tower of east in the desert and the second one is in the pyramid in the north in desert after you finished all tasks there and yes harm undead is destroy undead.

Landros
18.09.2017, 10:58
Thnaks a lot. Sadly tought, About Greg I'll probably see in my future Templar playtrough. I've already lost the Save soul quest, but I am repairing their old ship right now...

EDIT: After repairing the pirates ship, Skip says I should come back after two days if I wanna join them in hteir visit to "something"... I believe its the pirate city. I came back after two days and he still tells me their not ready. I came back after three, four, and then five days... their still not ready. Did I miss something? O_o

Landros
19.09.2017, 08:06
What would be the best way of doing mining on hard dificulty? You get tired very easily, but nameless doesn't seem to wanna sleep, even though his tired at about 100%. What would the solution be?

Bimor
19.09.2017, 09:07
What would be the best way of doing mining on hard dificulty? You get tired very easily, but nameless doesn't seem to wanna sleep, even though his tired at about 100%. What would the solution be?

That's a restriction of the hard difficulty. You can only sleep as long as you were awake before. So if you slept, then run around 5 hours and do stuff and want to sleep again, you can only sleep for 5 hours independently from your exhaustion percentage. With that they want to prevent getting unlimited bonuses and gold from hard difficulty upwards.

So mining is very restricted by this problem and you can only mine a bit of ore everytime because your exhaustion percentage and possible hours to sleep should match at some point, otherwise it can be really frustrating. The only reliable way of decreasing your percentage other than sleeping (that I know of) is the adanos water which you can get from the adanos desert. It decreases the exhaustion by 50% or fully, I can't remember right now.

Landros
19.09.2017, 09:59
Thanks for the answer. So, basically, on hard mining is a no no. Crap. No more swords to sale... no more free tons of coins to be had...

All I can think of is mining each evening and morning, provided you sleep during the night, wich I do. Is there any penalty for having constant 100% eshaustion? I can picture myself running around all day doing quest with that amount...

Tentarr
19.09.2017, 11:22
Normally you take more damage, your endurance shoud be faster dry away and you should get faster hunger.
Addtional to the sleeping problematic, every four hours you are awake you can addtional sleep one hour more, so 4 hours awake mean 5 hour sleep and at some bonfires you can rest till 3 hours, these hours don´t count to your sleep hour counter, so with them you can rest 3 addtional hour.

Landros
19.09.2017, 12:22
In the "controls" section of the options menu there's something called "relaxing". Would that be the lying around stance? Does that help restoring stamina? If yes, whats the key for that? In "controls" it sais its "numpad 5", but when ever I hit "numpad 5" nameless drinks a holy water botle if I've got some debilitating effects, or if not, it simply says theres no such effects.

So, Tentarr... its still possible to spam the mining then. Extremely difficult, but possible. All it takes is loads of patience, and boredom.

Tharr
19.09.2017, 17:23
I'm in the dragon island to the bridge with 2 switches who must be shoot with bow/crossbow and the arrows does not heat them no mater from what angle I try. Does anyone meet this problem?
My save is this: https://ufile.io/5one8

Can someone upload it to his computer, open the bridge and give me the save back, please?

Lord Lycidas
19.09.2017, 19:30
Deswegen empfehle ich (wie oben) immer, den Boss zu hitten und dann irgendwo raufzuklettern, der Fernkampfangriff dieser Schläferviecher ist nicht so stark und wird auch selten gecastet.
In der Adanos-Wüste -praktisch überall außer die Bosse resetten sich, weil sie extrem schwer für Ranges designed wurden - gibt es für fast jeden Boss eine Möglichkeit hinter einer Deckung oder einem auf einen Felsen/Vorsprung die Gegner zu töten.
Das erfordert zwar ein bisschen Übung da man so auch manche Bossmechaniken nicht umgehen kann, lohnt sich aber auch, da man nicht getroffen wird dabei.$§p4

also das mit dem hit&run oder iwo raufklettern wäre ja alles kein Thema. Allerdings bekommt ich bei jedem hit den Manaburn. und ich bin lvl50 und über 500 Mana.
Sorry, aber die Teile sind nicht zu packen. ach das schlimmste hätte ich fast vergessen: den dämlichen Spell casten die bei mir alle 10 sec und er durchdringt auch Wände -.-

Edit: achja, sie buffen dann zu allem Überfluss noch ihre HP wieder hoch...

Landros
20.09.2017, 08:09
You wont ship with them since its not out yet :)

I've been watching you play Returning on twitch. Huge amounts of patience there. O_o

But I had a question... I've seen you gathering plants and stuf from the ground while bypassing the animation (just like in the latest community patches of gothic 3). How do you do that? It would save me a world of pain. :D

EDIT: LOL when I was talking about patience, I was talking about your patience... it managing to beat it :)) That could be missinterpreted...

Tentarr
20.09.2017, 10:50
@ Land

This is easy, go in your system folder and open the gothic ini, there is one entry called No_Take_Anim set this entry to 1.

Landros
20.09.2017, 11:25
Tnaks again mate!

witchergothic
20.09.2017, 19:46
can't find the dragon root near the cave with Brago i've red on rpg-russia this: "На уступе справа от входа в пещеру Браго, пройти чуть вперед"
p.s. some screenshot on it's location would be nice http://worldofplayers.ru/images/smilies/ab.gif

Malak
20.09.2017, 20:51
Wo finde ich denn das Einhandlehrbuch für den Ork in der Stadt? Soll wohl dieses Buch sein. Nach Suche angeblich ganz oben in Xardas' Turm...aber da ist nichts. Hab auch schon mit goto vob itwr_einhandbuch probiert, aber no vobs found.

Tentarr
20.09.2017, 21:00
In xardas Turm im Mienen Tal, nicht dem versunkenen, im ersten stock ist ein Bücher Regal das man anklicken kann.

Tentarr
20.09.2017, 22:42
@ witcher can you explain where on rpg russia do you find this advice?
This one is not listed on the offical faq page:

http://rpgrussia.com/index.php?topic=11134.0

witchergothic
21.09.2017, 00:12
@ witcher can you explain where on rpg russia do you find this advice?
This one is not listed on the offical faq page:

http://rpgrussia.com/index.php?topic=11134.0
here you go buddy line 17

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 06:01
I took the wrong herb :p

I warped to all dragon root plants with a new game, but there was nothing near brago.

witchergothic
21.09.2017, 06:48
I took the wrong herb :p

I warped to all dragon root plants with a new game, but there was nothing near brago. They most likely removed it and forgot to make the change in their: "spravocnik" .I've lost good... pointless time searching for that dragon root there :)

Landros
21.09.2017, 08:58
Hello again! Yeah... It's me... more questions O_o

In the case of the "Damned Lighthouse" is there a good outcome? I mean... If I go and light the bloody light, Jack is dead. If I don't, three shadows attack, and although I can kill them, Jack is still dead, as he's gonna invariably jump into the fight and... yep, you guessed it, DIE. R.I.P. Jack...

Needless to say, I'd like him to survive. Any chance of managing that?

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 08:59
There is one, you need more than 50 rhetoric value.

witchergothic
21.09.2017, 09:21
Hello again! Yeah... It's me... more questions O_o

In the case of the "Damned Lighthouse" is there a good outcome? I mean... If I go and light the bloody light, Jack is dead. If I don't, three shadows attack, and although I can kill them, Jack is still dead, as he's gonna invariably jump into the fight and... yep, you guessed it, DIE. R.I.P. Jack...

Needless to say, I'd like him to survive. Any chance of managing that?
For you to have good outcome (Jack to survive) you need 50 in rhetoric
.

Landros
21.09.2017, 09:38
I'm starting to hate Rhetoric... :D I'm most certainly gonna have nightmares about it...

There's gonna be a hall list of quests weighting for that rhetoric stat...

On the other hand... awesome Loa scene by the lighthouse :D Witcher inspired if I'm not mistaken. I seam to recall something similar with a drowner in the main role, rather than a goblin ;)

Another one... to get to the Adanos Desert so as to fight Raven (I always thing of the grey jedi Revan when ever I type this dush's name...) I nead to present the Gold Dragon with a certain tablet, right? Were do I find that certain tablet? I found the stone sentinel summoning rune, but no other tablet to be seen. In my previous normal playtrough, I found myself clearing Jharkendar of Orcs in my heavy paladin armor... but had still not found out how to get to Raven.

I do apologize for not communicating with you in your native language, but as I haven't got the faintest sliver of knowledge regarding this fine teutonic speech, and believing it would be both more expedient and respectful to avoid the use of "google translate"... here we are. :D

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 09:55
It´s wonderful to read your comments there such funny :D

You find the table in the room after that one you fight raven, it´s the same room where you find the stone sentinel rune. You have to read it in your inventory and then you can ask the golden dragon.

You don´t need to apologize for the language. I addtional know how difficult is it to learn german.

gothicx
21.09.2017, 10:02
Hey Lord Sargon,
here https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1499430-RETURNING-v2-0-Stand-Fragen-Antworten-6/page6 you posted translated fix for 0066.2, that fixes bug with skeleton guardians, but when i rename this file to RET2_Scripts.vdf and replace it in data folder game is in russian not in english, it looks like there is more options in menu but in russian.

And second thing- it shows 0066.1 in menu, not 0066.2, i downloaded correct version and im using your translated scripts. It shows 0066.1 even before copying translated scripts. Im doing something wrong?
Im really confused :(
Thx

Landros
21.09.2017, 10:30
It´s wonderful to read your comments there such funny :D

You find the table in the room after that one you fight raven, it´s the same room where you find the stone sentinel rune. You have to read it in your inventory and then you can ask the golden dragon.

You don´t need to apologize for the language. I addtional know how difficult is it to learn german.

Thank you once more good sir. ;) Revan, beware!

EDIT: Immortal Stone Sentinels... what the hell!? O_o Run, Forest! Run!

Any cahnce of killing them somehow? The builder hammer doesn't work against them.

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 10:51
@ Land not yet, you fist need the golden amulet of adanos.

gothicx
21.09.2017, 11:38
Why would you rename anything? Just copy paste?!

If you dont rename them and replace with original files, they wont work.
By renaming i mean:
for example: from RET2_Scripts_Patch_en.vdf to RET2_Scripts.vdf, copying and replacing

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 11:45
You never have to rename them. They will always work if you just copy and paste them to the right folder. Lord Sargon adjust them, so you can directly use them.

gothicx
21.09.2017, 11:52
I didnt even know that, i always renamed them and it worked :P
But, do you have in menu 0066.2?
And that fix which i mentioned before works?

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 12:51
It works and is the latest one. Just don´t rename it and your menu should be in english.

gothicx
21.09.2017, 12:59
Yes, i wont rename anymore, it works as you said.
Last question: do you have in menu at the bottom left version 0066.2 or 0066.1?
@ rpgrussia they say that its just a "visual" bug, but everything is ok and and actually it is 0066.2 not 0066.1. Is that correct or should i have 0066.2?
Again, thx for replies guys.

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 13:10
rpg russia as usual is correct, it´just a visual bug.

Landros
21.09.2017, 21:00
Hello again! :D

Is the quest "Mysterious murder" still in the game? Because I just gave Constantino the poison (just like in my previous playtrough in witch Ignaz was still alive in the fourth chapter) and was wondering when I would find out from Lord Andre about the murder...

I did the quest with the shadowbeast permanently transformed aprentice, thus will I miss on any other quests if Constantino kills Ignaz?

Tentarr
21.09.2017, 21:07
sure is it. You have addtional to do the quest from the one firemage in the library. In this quest you have to bring the mage 3-4 scrolls of the certain spell from Ignaz.
After this switch to another world and switch back. After that Andre should talk with you about this topic.

You won´t miss any other quest, Ignaz has only two quests.

Landros
22.09.2017, 06:20
for me to be able to build up my character better, I would be interested to know if there are any limits in attribute raising. For example, I've red on hte forum somewhere (can't remember where) there is a limit of 7500 hp on hard difficulty. Are there more such limits I should know about? I tend to hoard all tablets/elixirs (for a revelant attribute, like str for a paladin) untill I train that attribute to the trainable limit, only then using them up.

Also, is there a way to enter the library of the monastery of Innos besides waiting until I get to be a paladin and getting the key? Like someone carrying it and me pick-pocketing it? :D
Thats were the pesky fire mage with the oblivion scrolls must be (for Ignaz to get killed), as I've talked with all of them apart from the guys in the library to no avail.

Tentarr
22.09.2017, 07:53
7500 Hp, 1000 Endurance, critchance for weapons 100% except range weapons there the value stands for hitchance, str/dex 850 but for the hardest dungeon the highest str/dex value is 750 and the highest hp value 5000 if you have higher values than these ones then you can´t get access to the dungeon.

Nope no other way, all guilds have to wait till the have the quest with the innos eye except is the firemage guild.

Landros
22.09.2017, 08:37
Thanks a lot. Also, are there any limits involving the raising of attributes by "Innos favor"? Meaning a set amount of maximum miracles. And are there conflicts between having miracles from bouth Innos and Beliar? I know there are conflicts in praying to them... meaning one prayer to Beliar will lower favor with Innos. Right now, I've got 68 favor with Innos and 62 favor with Beliar. Technically, I could get one lesser miracle from each of them.

Whell... I think I'll just try it out right now and see :D

What would you say would be a decent moment to stop training one handed weapons, so as to take advantage of tablets and books? I would think an 80% would be ok, right?

Tharr
23.09.2017, 09:12
7500 Hp, 1000 Endurance, critchance for weapons 100% except range weapons there the value stands for hitchance, str/dex 850 but for the hardest dungeon the highest str/dex value is 750 and the highest hp value 5000 if you have higher values than these ones then you can´t get access to the dungeon.

Nope no other way, all guilds have to wait till the have the quest with the innos eye except is the firemage guild.
To what dungeon you can't have access (with str/dex value is 750 and the highest hp value 5000) are you referring at Tentarr?

I can't pass Dragon Island to the bridge with 2 switches who must be shoot with bow/crossbow. All my arrows/bolts go into the ground, have a strange trajectory, this i notice after few days of playing Returning, at the beginning was not. I'm stuck there ...

monsterfresser
23.09.2017, 16:00
Hey Leute,
kann mir jemand sagen, wo ich Magic Hacking finden kann(der Zauberspruch der Schlösser knackt)?
Bin gerade im 1. Kapitel und habe vor kein Schlösserknacken zu lernen und anstelle dessen Magic Hacking bei Gallahad zu lernen.
Bin Magier

witchergothic
23.09.2017, 16:32
have one serious bug which was supposed to be fixed with the latest patch on 066 rev.2 but it's not those million skeletons still popup when you fight the skeleton boss

Tentarr
23.09.2017, 17:02
@ Monster Galahand verkauft die selbst, ich bin mir aber grad nicht mehr sicher, in der erste Version die eingeführt wurde, musst man selbst schlösser knacken können, damit er einem den Zauber überhaupt beibringt, da musst du mal schauen.

@ witcher, you have to use the latest hotfix:

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1499430-RETURNING-v2-0-Stand-Fragen-Antworten-6/page6

Here it´s posted from Lord Sargon.

witchergothic
23.09.2017, 17:07
@ Monster Galahand verkauft die selbst, ich bin mir aber grad nicht mehr sicher, in der erste Version die eingeführt wurde, musst man selbst schlösser knacken können, damit er einem den Zauber überhaupt beibringt, da musst du mal schauen.

@ witcher, you have to use the latest hotfix:

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1499430-RETURNING-v2-0-Stand-Fragen-Antworten-6/page6

Here it´s posted from Lord Sargon.
tx i was using the previous one ...was wondering why it works with the russian patch only but i was using old en patch
p.s. soo now 3-4 skeletons popup at the half hp of the boss

Lord Lycidas
23.09.2017, 17:31
Mein Ulu-Mulu funktioniert nicht mehr (Orks greifen mich trotz angelegtem UM an). Weiß jnd warum?

Tentarr
23.09.2017, 17:44
Hast du mit angelegtem ulumulu einen Ork angegriffen, einen Zauber in Gegenwart von orks benutzt oder eine truhe in der Ork Stadt geknackt, das mit den Truhen merken sie unabhängig davon ob dich tatsächlich jemand sieht.

Lord Lycidas
23.09.2017, 17:53
nee, nichts von alledem. UM angelegt und aus der Burg raus spaziert, wollte zum Orkfriedhof. Aber alle greifen mich an...

Edit: habe auch mal alles ausgezogen außer UM, immer dasselbe Ergebnis.
Kann man etwas tun oder einen Wert erreichen, bei dem die Orks immer angreifen?
Komme ich dann jetzt noch in die Stadt der Orks (also ohne funktionierendes UM?)

witchergothic
23.09.2017, 19:01
that amulet of shadows beside activating the portal to masiaf does it have some properties ? i've noticed equipping it produce some blue light from the hero's body

Lord Lycidas
24.09.2017, 07:42
Wirst wohl nen Ork mit dem Ulu Mulu angelegt getötet haben, darum ist das Ulu Mulu jetzt nutzlos :/

Das ist wohl dann für immer für alle nutzlos?§cry

Tentarr
24.09.2017, 08:03
@ witcher just fancy nothing more.

@ Lord kannst du einen save game hochladen davon, ich kann jetzt nichts versprechen aber ich würde es mir mal ansehen.
Komme aber frühstens heute Nachmittag dazu, also kannst du bis dahin ruhig noch spielen.

Lord Lycidas
24.09.2017, 08:22
@ witcher just fancy nothing more.

@ Lord kannst du einen save game hochladen davon, ich kann jetzt nichts versprechen aber ich würde es mir mal ansehen.
Komme aber frühstens heute Nachmittag dazu, also kannst du bis dahin ruhig noch spielen.

das wäre cool. Weil sonst würde mir ja die ganze Tal des Schattens Quest entgehen..und geht das dann überhaupt noch mit dem Schläfertempel? Aber vllt. hat sich ja auch nur irgendein Wert verstellt..

Tentarr
24.09.2017, 09:52
Kein Problem, ab 14 Uhr hätte ich Zeit. Schreib beim hochladen bitte noch dazu welche Version du spielst.

Es fallen halt alle Ork quests weg. In den schläfer Tempel kommst du trotzdem aber erst im 7 Kapitel und nachdem du im Rahmen der Hüter quest Reihe ur thrall killen musst.

Lord Lycidas
24.09.2017, 09:53
Kein Problem, ab 14 Uhr hätte ich Zeit. Schreib beim hochladen bitte noch dazu welche Version du spielst.

Es fallen halt alle Ork quests weg. In den schläfer Tempel kommst du trotzdem aber erst im 7 Kapitel und nachdem du im Rahmen der Hüter quest Reihe ur thrall killen musst.

ah jetzt kommt es langsam wieder, ist länger her, dass ich das schon mal gemerkt habe...das war, als ich aus dem Orkfriedhof rauskam. Kann es damit zusammenhängen?
Aber ggf. kann man ja einen Wert im GVE ändern..

thunderwulf1991
24.09.2017, 11:49
Hallo zusammen :)
bin grade bei der Quest Cargo Ore, bei der man das Erz-Paket suchen soll im Minental, aber ich finde diese dumme Unterwasserhöhle absolut nicht..
kann mir jemand sagen wo sich die Höhle befindet? rpgrussia ist an der Stelle leider auch nicht wirklich hilfreich :/

monsterfresser
24.09.2017, 12:01
Nächste Frage:
Sollte ich als Feuermagier von Innos 20 Mana nehmen oder 10 Intelligenz von Beliar?

Tentarr
24.09.2017, 12:15
@ thunder ist etwas schwer zu beschreiben, vom Burg Gitter einfach geradeaus auf den Fluss zu und in den Fluss rein laufen, dann ist genau im Fluss ein größer Felsen, dort runter tauchen, da ist dir Höhle drin, etwas rechts von dem Felsen ist die Mini Insel mit den lurkern drauf und man sieht die Stelle wo am Anfang im Tal der Jäger jergan steht.

@ Monster, ich würde immer int nehmen da man mana aus vielen anderen Quellen bekommt und int nicht, außerdem steigert int den hauptschaden und die mana Regeneration.
Wenn du bei beiden Karma gesammelt hast, spielst es ja keine Rolle.

monsterfresser
24.09.2017, 13:33
@ Monster, ich würde immer int nehmen da man mana aus vielen anderen Quellen bekommt und int nicht, außerdem steigert int den hauptschaden und die mana Regeneration.
Wenn du bei beiden Karma gesammelt hast, spielst es ja keine Rolle.

Ah sorry, kriege sowohl bei Beliar als auch Innos 5 Int und nicht 10. Denkst du es lohnt sich trotzdem, ich meine 20 Mana sind nicht wenig:D

Tentarr
24.09.2017, 13:53
Ich bleib bei Int aber wenn du Mana probleme hast und das besser nutzen kannst, dann nur zu.

@ Lord der Save ist wieder bereinigt und es sollte jetzt wieder gehen.

Landros
24.09.2017, 16:26
I remember there being a quest to redeem Gomez's ghost. How do I go about obtaining it? When I talk with him, he just sais there's nothing to do, him being stuck there and all.

Tentarr
24.09.2017, 16:29
You have to do the trader guild quest chain. There is one quest to find statutes in the valley of mines and then speak with Gomez.

thunderwulf1991
24.09.2017, 16:30
@ thunder ist etwas schwer zu beschreiben, vom Burg Gitter einfach geradeaus auf den Fluss zu und in den Fluss rein laufen, dann ist genau im Fluss ein größer Felsen, dort runter tauchen, da ist dir Höhle drin, etwas rechts von dem Felsen ist die Mini Insel mit den lurkern drauf und man sieht die Stelle wo am Anfang im Tal der Jäger jergan steht.

Hab die Höhle gefunden, danke! :)

Sagt mal, gibt es eine Liste für die Anforderungen für die Runen ab dem 3. Kreis? Habe alle benötigten Dinge aber scheinbar fehlt noch irgendwas :rolleyes:
Hat das eventuell mit den verschiedenen Typen von Runen zu tun? Man kann ja irgendwie 5,10,20 Runen (+Erz) zu anderen Runen zusammenfügen..:dnuhr:

Tentarr
24.09.2017, 16:43
Jup hat es. Alle zwei Kreis, also ab dem dritten und ab dem fünften muss man neue runen Arten verwenden.
Ab Kreis 3 die aus 10 Stein Brocken und 1 Erz barren und ab 5 die aus 20 Stein Brocken und 2 Erz barren.
Stein Brocken gibts von allen Stein Wächtern und Erz barren musst du selbst schmelzen.
Dazu brauchst du 50 Erz Brocken und den skill von viper.
um den skill zu lernen, musst du ein einfaches Schwert schmieden können, dann mit einem Schmied darüber reden wo er roh stahl herbekommt, dann bei viper Eisen schmelzen lernen, seine Erz quest fertig machen und dann kannst du Erz schmelzen lernen.
Einen Erz Barren kann man in dem Gefängnis in der Burg im Mienen Tal finden.

Landros
25.09.2017, 12:38
Tentarr... thank ypu once more. You're getting to be some sort of guardian angel for the downtrodden non German/Russian/Polish speaking gothic fan. :D

EDIT: Is there a way to obtain the chain mail coif the knights are wearing?

Tentarr
25.09.2017, 16:27
@ Nope you can't, just three other pala helmets.

Landros
25.09.2017, 17:15
Only one queer thing... Its imposible for the squire armor to be better than the heavy militia armor as the first is a chain hauberk while the seccond is a chain and plate armor. (Bouth being made of steel, no magic ore there). It would be much more logicle if they swapped places in the armor hierarchy. What say you? Imagine... Leather armor (militia armor), chain mail, chain and plate, light full plate (knight armor), heavy full plate (paladin armor).

thunderwulf1991
26.09.2017, 21:52
Jup hat es. Alle zwei Kreis, also ab dem dritten und ab dem fünften muss man neue runen Arten verwenden.
Ab Kreis 3 die aus 10 Stein Brocken und 1 Erz barren und ab 5 die aus 20 Stein Brocken und 2 Erz barren.
Stein Brocken gibts von allen Stein Wächtern und Erz barren musst du selbst schmelzen.
Dazu brauchst du 50 Erz Brocken und den skill von viper.
um den skill zu lernen, musst du ein einfaches Schwert schmieden können, dann mit einem Schmied darüber reden wo er roh stahl herbekommt, dann bei viper Eisen schmelzen lernen, seine Erz quest fertig machen und dann kannst du Erz schmelzen lernen.
Einen Erz Barren kann man in dem Gefängnis in der Burg im Mienen Tal finden.


ahhh ja jetzt macht alles einen sinn :)

Hätte da noch was.. ich komme grad aus dem Minental und Lutero schickt mich jetzt die Vorräte für die Paladine holen.. allerdings ist das der 8. Auftrag laut Guide:dnuhr:
der letzte Auftrag den ich bekommen habe war die Geschichte zwischen Jora und Zuris (Jor Service).. was ist denn mit den ganzen Aufträgen dazwischen? Bin jetzt im 3. Kapitel, hat das damit etwas zu tun, dass ich die anderen nicht gemacht habe bevor ich aus dem Minental mit Beweis wieder gekommen bin?

Edit:
Da fällt mir ein: ein riesen großes Dankeschön für deine ganze Hilfe Tentarr! Selten so viel guten Support bekommen :)

Tentarr
26.09.2017, 22:00
@ thunder kein ding, helfe immer gern.
Egal auf welchen guide du dich beziehst, sofern er auf deutsch geschrieben ist, gehört er nicht zu Returning 2.0.
Du hast alles richtig bisher gemacht, die anderen Aufgaben kommen später.
In 2.0 wurde die Reihenfolge der Aufgaben geändert.

Landros
27.09.2017, 14:14
Hello again. Yes, its me. One of your designated alien english speakers on the teuton forum board :D

1) Were can I learn to resist heat? As in... preferably not die while walking/jogging trough the ancient plateau.

2) If its Golzales... what sword can I bring him? No idea here... I taught he might help me on that field as he's clearly a hashashin.

Tentarr
27.09.2017, 14:25
You can learn as a part of the missing novice quest from the camp of brotherhood at the 3 chapter from Gonzales.

Talk with the paladin parcival in the room of garond in the valley of mines, he give you the task to kill a new spawned orc squad near the cliff near hoshpaks camp.
He will reward you with the assassins sword but you have additional do the missing novice quest till the point you need to talk with Gonzales.

Landros
27.09.2017, 14:58
How do I get the missing novice quest? I'm not a member of the brotherhood, being a pala and all... :D

Oh... and I seam to have the infinite skeleton summon bug in the abandoned mine. I know i need to use the latest hotfix but, the link to it is greyed out for me and apparently isn't an executable.

EDIT: I do have installed the "66 R2" version.

Ajihad
27.09.2017, 15:24
Hi, I struggle with the following problem atm: I've killed dexter and solved the missing people quest and imprisoned the weapons dealer as well. However I can't join the ring of water. Am I missing something important, do you have to do something in addition to the main game tasks just like when you want to become an apprentice? Or can't I just join them anymore because I already joined other minor guilds like the traders guild etc.? The dialogue option to ask vatras to join the ring just isn't there anymore. I still haven't the quest to kill the shadowbeast vatras gave me, is this necessary to be able to join? Has anyone else experienced problems with joining the ring even after solving the missing people and weapons dealer stuff? If it's really just a bug, is there any possibility to advance to the quest stage where you have your ring initiation with marvin-mode or to just reset vatras? (Sorry if this question i dumb, I just have no clue about Marvin, never use it.)
Thanks in advance.

Landros
27.09.2017, 15:41
You need to go speak with hagen again, and only then with Vatras. After that Saturas will let you join.

Ajihad
27.09.2017, 16:57
So in returning 2.0 it's not possible to join the ring before you have joined a main guild?

Tentarr
27.09.2017, 17:13
You need to talk with Hagen first, so you need a main guild.
If you go otherwise in Lord hagens house and talk with him, he will kill you.

@ Lord, just go to the brotherhood camp in the third chapter, the entrance guard speak to you, your guild doesn't matters.

Did you install the latest hotfix? I posted one or two pages ago, the right download side and ask the devil to correct the one in the start post but it seems he is away.

It's post 184 from page 10.

Ajihad
27.09.2017, 20:40
thx a lot :)

Landros
29.09.2017, 09:27
During the "missing novice" quest, The templar that dies at the attacked swamweed gathering camp sais that he badly wonded one of the attackers, and that I should search for them by the trail of blood left. Ah... there's no blood watsoever. Nothing. Where would i find the attackers?

Tentarr
29.09.2017, 09:48
The blood is really hard to track, actually you almost need to know the locations.
He is in the old wine destille in the dark forest.

Landros
29.09.2017, 12:15
Now, regarding the killer's sword... I spoke to Harad, Benet and Carl. Who should I speak to next? I tried with Gonzales, Hagen and other paladins (as their from Myrtana as well) and with Arlic, the guy behind the warehouse. Nothing...

Tentarr
29.09.2017, 12:24
You have to speak with the smith in camp of brotherhood in the valley of mines. The one at the mountains.

Landros
29.09.2017, 13:16
Thanks. I had forgothen about him. Regardin Greg's quest "damned soul", I've got 58 rethoric and Pyrokar still doesnt want to help. Its possibly 70 rethoric that I need to achieve now right? At least Jack is now blind of an eye now instead of dead... And, best of all, Nameless finally got laid! :D

Tentarr
29.09.2017, 13:20
For pyrokar you need 60 rhetoric skill :D

Landros
29.09.2017, 16:35
whell then... I'm off to buy books! Thank god for the gold in the abandoned mine

Landros
29.09.2017, 21:10
Regarding Hokurn's quest "Unlimited Power", to whom do I need to speak in the brotherhood's encampment? I've spoken to everybody and no one has anything to say.

And during the quest "missing novice" I got to safeguard the gathering camp near the black troll cave. Right now, I got another quest regarding sneaking around the near bye cave. At what hour should I go about sneaking in there. I've been sneaking at 21.00, 00.00, 01.00, 02.00. Nothing.

Tentarr
30.09.2017, 08:16
Can't remember his name but he is the one person wearing a guru robe but don't belong to them, he is standing in front of a tent. You have to talk with him twice and give all your smokes to him. The first time you talk with him at every dialog option he will stop the dialog but after talking him the next try he will talk.

For this quest is the translation not good enough.
You have to sneak in the cave at 22 cloak and sneak to the door on the right side. If you are standing near the door use a meat bug transformation spell and then you should get a new diary entry. Then transform back, open the door and beat the crap out of the ghost.

thunderwulf1991
01.10.2017, 13:41
@ thunder kein ding, helfe immer gern.
Egal auf welchen guide du dich beziehst, sofern er auf deutsch geschrieben ist, gehört er nicht zu Returning 2.0.
Du hast alles richtig bisher gemacht, die anderen Aufgaben kommen später.
In 2.0 wurde die Reihenfolge der Aufgaben geändert.

Ich habe nicht Sarah sondern Cantar in den Knast gebracht, ist damit jetzt die Händlergildenquestreihe zu ende und ich bekomme nichts? :/
Habe zuletzt einen neuen Gehilfen (Valeran) übergeben und dann war die Questreihe jetzt nämlich abgeschlossen und bei Lutero gibt es keine neuen Dialogoptionen mehr...

Landros
01.10.2017, 17:28
I'm following the quest "Unlimited Power" and Milten told me about the missing fire mage that had been sent to search for the misterious artifact. How do I find out more? Do I need to wait to talk to Caristo himself for the redeeming Gomez quest?

Tentarr
01.10.2017, 18:02
@ thunder tatsächlich ist die quest nicht möglich zu beenden, wenn man canthar in den Knast schickt, dies fällt unter die Konsequenzen von Handlungen was ein Merkmal von Returning ist.

@ land near xardas old tower and the bridge that lead to the cave of pain will you find the missing mage.

monsterfresser
02.10.2017, 13:04
Hey Leute,

bin gerade im 2. Kapitel Feuermagier mit 152 Mana und 110int. Würde euch gerne Fragen, ob es sich lohnen würde, Feuerballrune zu erlernen. 20Lp sind ziemlich viel.Zudem
musste ich gerade 25lp für Goldhacken und schmelzen lernen, weshalb ich grad knapp an lp bin

Edit: Weiß jemand, woher man viel Honig bekommt?

Blaubaschbube
02.10.2017, 14:35
Hey Leute.
Es gibt doch die Option, den Dämon im Sumpf von den Orks killen zu lassen?
Ich muss zu einem ur hush nar oder so ähnlich. Kann mir einer sagen wo der ist?
§wink

gorn0815
02.10.2017, 14:37
Bin im "Tempel der Verdammten".
Ich komme einfach nicht über die Grube mit den Spikes, die in den Raum mit dem letzten Schalter führt.

Akrobatik hilf nichts - ebenso wenig die Verwandlung zum Schattenläufer.

Es sieht so aus, als springe ich gegen eine unsichtbare Mauer.

Danke für Hilfe.

Gorn

(2.0066.1)46046

Landros
02.10.2017, 16:32
Ah... How do I open the cave of pain. Whent and zpoke to Xardas, nothing. Scoured around the cave, nothing. Gonna hunt more orcs for now... Possibly have another go at the sleeper demon in the anchient plateau.

And is there any way to fix the rendering of enemies? I have everything on highes and orcs still pop out of nowere at a maximum of 20 m. Not to mention the problems this brings on the palteau of the anchients.

Tentarr
02.10.2017, 19:29
also mal ein paar antworten

@ Monster, es kommt darauf an wie schnell du ins 4 Kapitel wechseln willst, da es dort die nächst besseren Zauber gibt, wobei es als Magier sinnvoll ist jeden Zauber zu lernen, da es die Intelligenz erhöht aber vor allem die Zauber Widerstands Durchschlagskraft erhöht. Was die Widerstände der Gegner senkt.

Honig gibt es eigentlich nur bei Händlern zu kaufen und werden zu Kapiteln wechseln resettet.

@ Blau, das wurde raus gepachtet, obwohl die Dialoge immer noch aktiv sind, heißt du musst ihn alleine killen.

@ ,Land if you Do the Gomez soul quest, the cave will be opened, so you have to do the trader guild quest chain.
Sorry don't know anything about your render problem.

Tentarr
02.10.2017, 19:32
@ gorn, klingt nach einem Bug oder Fehler im save, wenn du ihn hochlädst, kann ich ihn sehr wahrscheinlich beheben.

Blaubaschbube
03.10.2017, 12:30
Wie funktioniert das denn mit den assassinen? Ich habe die Quest in der Burg gemacht. Also diese 4 Generäle gekillt. Aber nun nichts neues raus gefunden?

Lord Lycidas
03.10.2017, 13:22
Jemand eine Idee, wie man den Dämon in der Eisenmine der Orks als Magier besiegen kann?

Landros
03.10.2017, 13:47
I believe I've run about 3 laps around the ancient plateau. All I've got to show for myself are 12 ancient stone tablets (unstakable ones) and 3 stone shards. The stone shards I'm possitive belong with the stone book near the smaller pyramide. Could you pls tell me of their locations? As I'm positive there must be another 4th one... really can't find it. Gonna go hunt for assasins in Khorinis for a while O_o

There are also two invulnerable sleeper demons at the foot of the larger pyramide. How do you slay them?

Lord Lycidas
03.10.2017, 13:55
Hit'n'Run, wenn man sich eingespielt hat, richtig easy. Speichern hilft auch, da er manchmal nachm Laden nicht resetted ;)

das teil hat 30k HP und ich mach 100 dmg/hit. Zudem gibts ständig HP/MP Strafen, wodurch er wieder HP gewinnt...also easy finde ich das iwie nicht. eher unschaffbar ;D

@Landros: they must stand next to each other to get damage. If one falls, the other must be killed also next to the dead body

Lord Lycidas
03.10.2017, 14:05
Also ich habe es so gemacht mit meinem Necro:

Zauber drauf bis er zu einem kommt, dann macht er seinen "Feueratem", zur anderen Seite des Raumes gerannt, repeat.
Geschwindigkeitstränke sind sehr hilfreich (Vorallem die 14 Minuten Dinger aus Snapperleber.. aber weiß nicht mehr, woher ich den hatte xD)

Wie bist du den Manaburn umgangen?

Edit: habs gerade noch einmal probiert...bei 2 von 3 hits bekomme ich eine HP strafe...

Leider unmöglich. Denke, damit wars das für mich hier...

Blaubaschbube
03.10.2017, 14:26
Neben meinem Problem mit den Assassinen.. weiß noch jemand von euch die Kombination zum zerstören des Drakaiis?

Landros
03.10.2017, 15:04
das teil hat 30k HP und ich mach 100 dmg/hit. Zudem gibts ständig HP/MP Strafen, wodurch er wieder HP gewinnt...also easy finde ich das iwie nicht. eher unschaffbar ;D

@Landros: they must stand next to each other to get damage. If one falls, the other must be killed also next to the dead body

Thanks. I never would have figured that out... as I always take greath pains to kill them one by one. :D

Lord Lycidas
03.10.2017, 15:07
Den Manaburn durch Holy Water geheilt (Sehr sehr viele Holy Water.. :D). Wie sieht deine HP derzeit aus? Ich war dort mit ~1500 HP drin, der Damage war relativ niedrig den ich bekommen habe.

1000HP, dafür 700 Mana.
Wo bekommt man das ganze holy Water her :D
Habe bisher auch nur Feuersturm als Rune. Bisher habe ich alles über Coverfire gemacht (n AOE, der 100sek 100feuerdmg/sec macht).
Leider bringt der bei dem Vieh gar nichts...

@Landros, even knowing that, it was a huge afford to kill them... :P

Lord Lycidas
03.10.2017, 17:03
Wie hast du das mit der Heilung zwischendrin gemacht? also wenn ich ihn hitte und ich HP verliere, geht immer gleich 1/5 weg...
ich kann nicht ständig heilen, schießen und holy water süffeln...das ist mega frustrierend..

Blaubaschbube
03.10.2017, 17:47
Weiß zufällig einer, wie man ins tal der schatten kommt? stell mich einfach zu blöd an. :dnuhr:

witchergothic
03.10.2017, 18:09
Can't recruit Grames(miner) he says something about when paladins go to pray to the statue of Innos then he will escape, but i've tried couple of times in different days nothing... also can't recruit Alaric too not line for that in the dialog with him, i've beating him in fair fight brought his sword to him, nothing...
p.s. i'm playing with the latest release 066 rev.2 and latest patch too

Blaubaschbube
03.10.2017, 18:44
Danke beasti. Ich werd wohl noch bisschen brauchen.. der Dämon ist mir immer noch etwas zu stark... mit lv 53:rolleyes:
Bin wohl etwas sehr verskillt.

Noch ne letzte Frage fürs erste.
Wo bekommt man diese Wiederbelebungsrollen her?
Hab mal gelesen bei nem Händler.
Hab im Minental nachgeguckt. Im kloster und in khorinis. Bei keinem gefunden? Brauche dringend eine.

thunderwulf1991
03.10.2017, 18:51
@ thunder tatsächlich ist die quest nicht möglich zu beenden, wenn man canthar in den Knast schickt, dies fällt unter die Konsequenzen von Handlungen was ein Merkmal von Returning ist.

@ land near xardas old tower and the bridge that lead to the cave of pain will you find the missing mage.

ah ok, na gut dann kann man da nichts machen :dnuhr:

nochmal ne frage wegen ur-shak.. ich habe hosh-pak getötet und daher hat ur-shak mir die freundschaft gekündigt.. nun brauche ich aber ur-shak doch um das ulumulu herstellen zu können oder nicht? 1. finde ich ur-shak nicht mehr bei dem zelt von hosh-pak und auch nicht oben auf der klippe bei tengrons mine, 2. wird er mir doch bestimmt nachdem ich seinen mentor getötet hab nicht mehr helfen das ding zu bauen, oder? :/

würde jetzt nämlich gerne mal mit diesen ganzen ork quests anfangen in der stadt und mine etc.

thunderwulf1991
03.10.2017, 22:12
"Vergessen" Spruchrolle, ist ganz witzig was dann passiert ;)

war auch meine idee, aber ich dachte mir bisher dass das ja sicher nicht so einfach sein könnte :D
wo finde ich den guten ork denn jetzt? :dnuhr:

monsterfresser
04.10.2017, 11:21
Hey Leute,
sollte man Konstantino das Gift geben? Hat die Quest abzuschließen irgendwelche Konsequenzen?

SumpfkrautUser
04.10.2017, 11:52
Hey Leute,
sollte man Konstantino das Gift geben? Hat die Quest abzuschließen irgendwelche Konsequenzen?



Ja er hat Auswirkungen:

Ignatz stirbt und du bekommst dadurch eine neue Questreihe.
Musst du also selbst entscheiden. https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/images/icons/icon_08.gif$§p4

SumpfkrautUser
04.10.2017, 11:58
Hülfee, ich komme nicht weiter und zwar bei der Quest der verlorene Bruder. Nachdem ich Raven im Tempel gekillt habe bin ich durch son Portal in eine komische Welt. Habe die meisten Quests auch schon geschafft. Stehe nun aber vor der Tempeltür von dieser neuen Welt und habe keine Ahnung, wie ich die Schalter in der richtigen Reihenfolge aktiviere. Die Übersetztung ist da einfach zu grotte :D
Ich hoffe ihr könnt mir helfen :dnuhr:$§p4

thunderwulf1991
05.10.2017, 01:50
Er sollte normal jetzt beim alten Platz von Hosh-Pak sein §wink

eben genau da ist er ja leider nicht, oder kommt er erst im 4. kapitel wieder? Bin noch im 3. kurz vor Fertigstellung des Auge Innos und wollte da jetzt nichts weiter kaputt machen :dnuhr:
Btw, der insert code für Ur-Shak: "orc_2200_shaman" funktioniert nicht, wurde der geändert in der mod?

Landros
05.10.2017, 07:36
Hello again. To recruit the diger Grimes as a miner for the camp, I need to bring him a couple of "sleep" spell scrolls. I do have them, but there's no new dialogue option. What to do? I do have 60 rhetoric...

Tentarr
05.10.2017, 18:34
@ land grimes explain to you that you should wait one day before bringing him the scrolls.

Landros
06.10.2017, 11:59
Thanks... somehow... I kinda missed that O_o
How much rethoric does Snipes need? In my normal playtrough (improperly named as it was quite incomplete) I just had the option to persuade him at about 50+ rhetoric after already bringing on board Carl the smith, Sagitta and the fish soop girl that you bring a statue of Innos to. Now... at 59 rhetoric, he just asks why he should abandon his carefree life and thats all. Nothing more from Nameless.

And, just a tought. The master of the Seekers (Dark Strangers), the one that robs us of the pleasure to painfully murder the asshole paladin Lothar, is stupidly easy to kill with sword and shield. Just like any other number of 3-4 max Seekers. You just need to stay neer him so that he uses the "you flying away" spell and hit him as you... just fail to fly away. O_o Actually... because of this, I fail to see why I should ever use my former all time favourite, the two-hander. Yeah... it does more damage... and it has better range (anuled by the new left/right combo, as now you also advance) but with the remarcable quickness of the left/right combo of the one-handed style/shield style and with your aparent invurnerability to flying away given by the shield (not to mention bonus to armor and chance to block)... Nameless becomes the bain of Seekers and trolls, and an incredibly stuborn captain that just doesn't ever fly away!
The only problem with the Seekers was at the tower... and that becuase there where 20+ of them chucking lightning at me. Even that was easily resolved by runing like a little girl... Does this change on Legendary? If not... sword and shield it is! Sorry mighty Uriziel! A lousy board left you jobless...

Lord Lycidas
06.10.2017, 21:59
Kennt jemand die Lösung zur o. g. Quest? Es hängt wohl mit Kreol zusammen, und mit 4 Zauberstabteilen?, die man beschaffen muss?

Tentarr
06.10.2017, 22:12
Richtig hat mit kreol zu tun.
Gestartet wird die quest über das Buch von dem Typen den man ins Kloster schicken kann.
Dann muss man im Schatten Turm, unterhalb der klippe beim neuen druiden rein und die Notiz lesen, danach mit kreol sprechen.
Der erklärt das es um einen mächtigen Drachen Stab geht und man vier Teile braucht.
Ein Teil hat er, den gibt er aber nur her wenn man ihm vorher die anderen drei Teil beschafft.
Die Stab teile findet man bei drei Boss Gegnern die zu den neuen Bereichen aus Returning gehören.
Sobald man alle drei hat einfach mit creol für das vierte ding reden
Danach geht's erst in irdorath weiter.
Wichtig den Teil mit kreol muss gemacht werden bevor man nach irdorath geht, wenn man die Stab teile erst im siebten Kapitel sammelt, kann man das Finale Teil von irdorath nicht mehr holen.
Ich weiß die Boss Gegner grad nicht mehr auswendig aber wenn man alle optionalen Bereiche macht, findet man sie auf jeden Fall.
Man bekommt auf jeden Fall eine mächtige Belohnung.

Tentarr
06.10.2017, 22:50
Hab doch nochmal drüber nach gedacht, die Boss Gegner sind:
Der nekromant im schläfer Tempel
Kor carlom im Tal der assassinen
Der Schatten Lord in der krypta bei onar.

Lord Lycidas
07.10.2017, 08:09
Hab doch nochmal drüber nach gedacht, die Boss Gegner sind:
Der nekromant im schläfer Tempel
Kor carlom im Tal der assassinen
Der Schatten Lord in der krypta bei onar.

vielen Dank!!
dann müsste ich ein Teil ja schon haben...muss ich mal mein INventar durchforsten..