More and more problems

[DenisInnos]

So now i am in Silden .... i have talked with an orc Zapnak or .... he telled me abut 5 slaves who ran in some forests :( .....:dnuhr: and i need to kill them ... and this orc told me to kill THE ORC SHAMAN Grompal §wink He is mad ? How can i do it without the other orcs not slaughter me .... $§p4

[bigsnappy]

So now i am in Silden .... i have talked with an orc Zapnak or .... he telled me abut 5 slaves who ran in some forests :( .....:dnuhr: and i need to kill them ... and this orc told me to kill THE ORC SHAMAN Grompal §wink He is mad ? How can i do it without the other orcs not slaughter me .... $§p4

Can't you lure Grompal out of the town? Threaten him, make sure he follows you out of town, and then kill him. That is what I would try.

[Alwin]

Actually, there is an option to let him guide you to the rebels (actually, he only crosses the bridge that leads to the rebels, but that's far enough). You can kill him there.

[DenisInnos]

Thx guys ... but i dont have any quests with this Grompal ??
And for the first question with the 5 slaves that i need to kill ... where are they ?

[Lobedan]

The slaves are north to Silden, here is a map (http://www.worldofgothic.com/images/g3extra_maps/pic1.jpg).

[Windmacht]

And for the first question with the 5 slaves that i need to kill ... where are they ?

Here is a map where the positions of them are signed: Click. (http://www.worldofgothic.com/images/g3extra_maps/pic1.jpg)
But there are not all positions, so here is a german map with all of them: Click. (http://www.acropolis-online.de/G3/Bilder/NPCs_in_Myrtana.jpg) ("Sklave aus Silden" are the escaped slaves.)

[DenisInnos]

Thx but are only 3 .... needed to be 5 ?

[Lobedan]

The five slaves are at these three locations, three of them are at the same place.

[DenisInnos]

The five slaves are at these three locations, three of them are at the same place.

I killed em' Thnks

[andorian22]

If your hitpoints are high enuff, it's more fun to
lead some boars up by the slaves and have them
kill the slaves:D

At least you aren't really murdering helpless slaves

[Dimus]

Actually you can succeed both Freman's and Zapotek's quests even in the G3 EE. At first you can escort all 5 slaves to Freman, then you should go to Zapotek and obtain his quest to murder all fugitives. With "Make Decease" or "Poison" spells you can entice these slaves one by one far away from the rebel camp and kill 'em all.

[DenisInnos]

Now i am in Geldern and i need to steal a lot of things from the houses :rolleyes::rolleyes: but i can't cuz the orcs will kill me so ... i need probably to learn how to sneak ... ?? Who can teach me ?

[Lobedan]

You don't have to learn sneaking, you can do it without any skill. There's a key for it in the settings.
But be careful: If you steal to much the orcs will attack you also. It's not enough to steal items unseen. There is a counter in the game for every town and if some specific values are reached they will talk to you and attack you. The perk Make excuses can delay, but don't stop this.

[DenisInnos]

I dont understand what you mean ... i want to steal the Pladain Helemt and the gold glasses for Lares + the rings for the alchemist....

[Lobedan]

If you only want to steal these items, ok. That's not to much.
The stealing system of Gothic 3 is quite complex. It's not like in Gothic 2 where you can steal everything without consequences if you steal the items unseen. In Gothic 3 every item has the stealing value 0 or 1. You can't see in the game which value an item has. If it has the value 1 and you steal it, the stealing counter of the town increases about 1. If it reaches 20, the next npc will talk to you, that you stole to much. The hero makes excuses self-dependent.
If the counter reaches 40, the next npc will talk to you again. Now you have the possibility to corrupt the npc with gold. That works. If you learned the skill Make excuses and have enough thieving points you can make excuses successfully. Without the skill that doesn't works here. The third possibility in that case is to offence the npc. He will attack you after that.
And if the counter reaches 60, the procedure starts again and now only the skill Make excuses works. But not with an 100% chance of success. So there is the chance to get attacked. That depends on your thieving points.