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    Problem with Bloodwin

    Hi, I'm new here

    I have a problem with Bloodwin in the addon of Gothic 2: I spoke to Garaz, killed all the animals in the mine, but Garaz doesn't tell me anything and Bloodwin doesn't come.
    What can I do? I don't want to redo all the game since there.

    Tank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFH
    Hi, I'm new here

    I have a problem with Bloodwin in the addon of Gothic 2: I spoke to Garaz, killed all the animals in the mine, but Garaz doesn't tell me anything and Bloodwin doesn't come.
    What can I do? I don't want to redo all the game since there.

    Tank you
    Have you went in the abandoned temple? The one in the mine?

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    Have u spoken to Garaz before?
    r u shure that u killed all the animals?

    by the way ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFH
    Hi, I'm new here

    I have a problem with Bloodwin in the addon of Gothic 2: I spoke to Garaz, killed all the animals in the mine, but Garaz doesn't tell me anything and Bloodwin doesn't come.
    What can I do? I don't want to redo all the game since there.

    Tank you
    Hi and to the Forum!

    Well, maybe a crawler went somehow away,... you could try to teleport somewhere and then hit back there (or run,... let´s say to pirates camp and hit back),... maybe then you´ll find an overseen crawler.

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    Well, maybe a crawler went somehow away,... you could try to teleport somewhere and then hit back there (or run,... let´s say to pirates camp and hit back),... maybe then you´ll find an overseen crawler.
    short way of doing this : go to the teleport place at the begining of Jharkendar and go through the portal in the normal world. Then return to the mine and look for extra NPC's wich weren't killed. If you don't find solution to this then post back in here.

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    I went quite everywhere: I teleported to the watermages, to Korinis, I did all the missions I could, ... but nothing append: when I came back to the gold mine it's empty and Garaz don't say a word.
    To answer rockfest, I went to the temple, collected all the objects I found there (nothing very usefull, if I remember well) and went back, but it's always the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFH
    I went quite everywhere: I teleported to the watermages, to Korinis, I did all the missions I could, ... but nothing append: when I came back to the gold mine it's empty and Garaz don't say a word.
    To answer rockfest, I went to the temple, collected all the objects I found there (nothing very usefull, if I remember well) and went back, but it's always the same.
    Is in the journal log saying something like this : " Bloodwyn only comes in the mine if something important happens." I can't remember the exact words and if i can remember well you have to talk with someone to tell you that Bloodwin will enter the mine if the creatures are killed. Try to speak with the guys in there and see what they have to say.

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    if U have killed all the Crawlers the he should come to this guard .... or have U looked inside this cave? Maybe he is in this cave where were Minecrawlers....???

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    Garaz should spoke automaticly with you, not by talking to him... maybe run around Garaz sometimes till he speaks to you.

    If this dosen´t help, then you only can cheat or try a older savegame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockfest
    Is in the journal log saying something like this : " Bloodwyn only comes in the mine if something important happens." I can't remember the exact words and if i can remember well you have to talk with someone to tell you that Bloodwin will enter the mine if the creatures are killed. Try to speak with the guys in there and see what they have to say.
    Yes, if you speak with the guard at the entrance of the temple. As before nothing happend.

    Quote Originally Posted by WernerTWC
    Garaz should spoke automaticly with you, not by talking to him... maybe run around Garaz sometimes till he speaks to you.

    If this dosen´t help, then you only can cheat or try a older savegame..
    I tried to run around him for a few, went into the mine and back again, etc...
    The big problem is that I don't have an older savegame because I didn't think it was such an important mission. I don't like this way of playing, but if someone knows the cheat to unlock the situation (possibly not very far in the story) I'll be very gratefull.

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    Bloodwyn will definitely leave the temple when he finds out that a new gold vein has been found in the mine.
    This is the condition for Bloodwyn to come in the mine. You have to find something in the mine...some gold "vein", i don't know what means. You should have this in the journal log from the dialogue you had with Garaz.

    To be honest IMO i don't remember this thing...i played the notr along time ago but this is what i found in the scripts. About the cheating thing...i don't know any way of starting a routine from the Marvin console.
    Last edited by rockfest; 19.12.2005 at 16:02.

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    Don´t you think it´s enough to insert bloodwyn, or maybe his head?!?

    Here you can read how to cheat:

    The Marvin Database

    code for bloodwyn:
    Bdt_1085_Addon_Bloodwyn

    code for bloodwyns-head:
    ItMi_Addon_Bloodwyn_Kopf

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    Quote Originally Posted by WernerTWC
    Don´t you think it´s enough to insert bloodwyn, or maybe his head?!?

    Here you can read how to cheat:

    The Marvin Database

    code for bloodwyn:
    Bdt_1085_Addon_Bloodwyn

    code for bloodwyns-head:
    ItMi_Addon_Bloodwyn_Kopf
    Nice ideea but if i were to bet that when he will insert that instance of Bloodwyn he won't have much to say? Except...i just saw something. It might work...i don't know. Let's just hope it does work.

    But only one thing...even if he manage to insert bloodwyn in the mine there is another instance of bloodwyn in the temple waiting for his quest to finish.

    @MFH save before you do this...

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    You "collected" the gold in that mine? Maybe if you digging the 2 lumps of ore, Bloodwin will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cipris
    You "collected" the gold in that mine? Maybe if you digging the 2 lumps of ore, Bloodwin will come.
    I don't know....i just found this in the script wich has the dialogue with Garaz.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    You speak something with him(don't know what cause it is in german) and this should appear in the journal.

    Here is the dialogue wich makes Bloodwyn to come in the mine :
    Hero : So, das sollte es gewesen sein. Die Crawler sind erledigt.
    Garaz : Bloodwyn ist schon auf dem Weg. Das ist doch das, was du wolltest, oder?
    Garaz : Ich meine, du hast die Crawler abgemetzelt, damit Bloodwyn herkommt. Also, was immer du vorhast, tu es JETZT.
    Now Bloodwyn starts coming into the mine.

    The condition for that dialgue to happen is this :
    -Minecrawler_Killed >= 9 -> this means that you have to kill at least 9 of them;
    -!Npc_IsDead (Bloodwyn) -> this means that the dialogue from up there will happen only if Bloodwyn is still alive....

    In order to Bloodwyn to come into the mine both conditions must be true. If you have killed at least 9 minecrawlers and you didn't killed Bloodwyn before in the game Bloodwyn should come into the mine. If he doesn't then it's an official bug IMO.

    later edit: @sowilo my mistake...sorry
    Last edited by rockfest; 21.12.2005 at 13:43.

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    Try to dig that gold, maybe it will work.
    Bloodwyn will definitely leave the temple when he finds out that a new gold vein has been found in the mine.
    And maybe the 2 lump of ore is the "new gold vein"........

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    Hero : So, das sollte es gewesen sein. Die Crawler sind erledigt.
    Garaz : Bloodwyn ist schon auf dem Weg. Das ist doch das, was du wolltest, oder?
    Hero : Ich meine, du hast die Crawler abgemetzelt, damit Bloodwyn herkommt. Also, was immer du vorhast, tu es JETZT.
    Hero: That was it. The Crawlers r killed.
    Garaz: Bloodwyn is on the way to here, that is what u wanted to hear isn't it?
    Hero - not Garaz?: I mean, u killed the Crawlers to get Bloodwyn to here. Whatever u want to do do it NOW!

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    I digged all the gold in the mine, so no problem with it, but maybe the problem is that I didn't kill all the crawlers because I was too weak in that moment and I let them follow me until I reached Garaz. Maybe the solution is here. Do you think something can happend if I kill some others crowlers in others mines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFH
    I digged all the gold in the mine, so no problem with it, but maybe the problem is that I didn't kill all the crawlers because I was too weak in that moment and I let them follow me until I reached Garaz. Maybe the solution is here. Do you think something can happend if I kill some others crowlers in others mines?
    You mean that you didn't killed all the minecrawlers? Garaz killed some of them? I think that this is your problem . let me build you a small little "patch" for this. It will take a few minutes but tell me if you have NOTR with the english translation mod or if you have the original english one.

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    In one forum I just read about the same problem. Some ppl solved it by killing guards at the entrance of temple - in it you will find Bloodwin, kill him, etc.

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