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Lehrling
HELP with NOTR (return to Khorinis with portal)
Dear friends,
I've bought Gothic 2 and the addon Night of the Raven, both in italian.
I've played a little without any problem.
The, I entered the portal to Night of the Raven addon. I've played and I've revolved the missions (kill Raven).
Now I'm trying to return to Khorinis with the same portal, but when I enter the game crushs with the following message:
D: zArchiver (:: Read Object)
: objRef, referencedobject has not been read, object index 30184
What does it mean and what could I do to go on with this marvellous game?
Thanks very much for your reply.
Greetings.
Giacomo Bo
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Deus
Hi and to the forum!
Have you patched the game to Add-on Patch 2.6???
And when exactly does the game crash? While loading?
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
Last edited by WernerTWC; 03.12.2005 at 23:01.
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Lehrling
Yes,
the game crush downloading and show the message I've written above.
It crush near the end of the yellow line of the downloading.
I've the 2.6 version of the game.
Pentium 4 1,5Ghz, 512 RAM, Video Ati 9550 256Mb.
I've installed the game also to another pc and there is the same problem (the game is original).
What could I do?
Thanks.
Giacomo
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Deus
Maybe try the Gothic II Vdfs - Patch
Or you have an older save-game, from which you could try to go from one world to an other?
Please, have a little bit patience... in time we will find an answer,... every prob is only existing to be solved! 
Just ask and ask again till your prob is solved!
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Lehrling
No, sfortunately I've not an older save game.
I0ve tryied to change almost every configuration of my pc, but nothing happens.
I0ve installed the game on my laptop (another computer) but the problem remains the same.
I suppose that something has gone wrong during the adventure of the Addon, then I've saved the game and now the program could not load some part when is loading the old region of khorinis.
Do you know if someone else has my problem?
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Deus
Ok, try this:
Speicher ab, beende das Spiel und öffne den Savegames Ordner (Standard .../Programe/Jowood/Gothic2/Savegames). Wähle nun deinen aktuellen Save aus, mit dem du nicht zurück nach Khorinis kommst (z.B. savegame1 für Slot1). Öffne den Save und mach erst mal eine Sicherheitskopie von der "Newworld.sav" Datei. Lösche diese, kopiere die newworld.sav von einem anderen (möglichst aktuellen) Savegame und füg sie in deinem Savegame ein. Zuerst aber: Sicherheitskopie machen! Dann sollte es wieder gehen.
Save your game (another slot). Open savegames-folder (Standard .../Programe/Jowood/Gothic2/Saves). Choose and open the defect (i.e. savegame1 for Slot1) savegame folder. Make a backup from "Newworld.sav". Then delete it ( "Newworld.sav") in the savegame folder. Now copy that file from the newer save you have made to this defect save. Don´t forget to make a backup from the file first!!!
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Lehrling
 Originally Posted by WernerTWC
Ok, try this:
Save your game (another slot). Open savegames-folder (Standard .../Programe/Jowood/Gothic2/Saves). Choose and open the defect (i.e. savegame1 for Slot1) savegame folder. Make a backup from "Newworld.sav". Then delete it ( "Newworld.sav") in the savegame folder. Now copy that file from the newer save you have made to this defect save. Don´t forget to make a backup from the file first!!!
I've verifyed the Newworld.sav of all my savegames and unfortunately it is always the same (corrupted).
So, I've started a new game, I've saved it and I've followed your instruction.
WOW! It works! I can enter the portal and return to Khorinis... but... now I've to play all the missions of the first chapter!
Do you have any other solution?
Thanks.
Giacomo
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Adventurer
Go and play again. Have fun again, try to find new ways of copleting quests and lastly dont forget to make a save before going to Jakendar the first time.
Or maybe you could youst play the first chapter and overwrite the defescted Newworld.zen yo were youst taking about.
Or play on from where Werner helped you, you will maybe earn the exp. again.
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Deus
 Originally Posted by giacomo1968
I've verifyed the Newworld.sav of all my savegames and unfortunately it is always the same (corrupted).
So, I've started a new game, I've saved it and I've followed your instruction.
WOW! It works! I can enter the portal and return to Khorinis... but... now I've to play all the missions of the first chapter!
Do you have any other solution?
Thanks.
Giacomo
I think you missunderstood me (or i didn´t explain good enough)... anyway:
you shoudn´t start a whole new game! Just load the corrupt game, not start a new game, and make with this a save on a new slot and from THIS save, you should take the newworld.sav.
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Lehrling
 Originally Posted by WernerTWC
I think you missunderstood me (or i didn´t explain good enough)... anyway:
 you shoudn´t start a whole new game! Just load the corrupt game, not start a new game, and make with this a save on a new slot and from THIS save, you should take the newworld.sav.
No, it does not work.
I've load the savegame from which I'm not able to pass the portal and to come back to Khorinis.
I've saved it on a new slot.
Then I've quit the game and I've deleted the newworold.sav of the savegame corrupted.
then, I've copied the newgame.sav of the new saved game into the old corrupted savegame.
I've start the game, load the corrupted savegame and I've passed the portal... back to windows again!
So the problem is that saving the game the corruption remains.
Do you have any othe solution?
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Deus
 Originally Posted by giacomo1968
Do you have any othe solution?
Try to download a save from Nachtwanderer´s Savegames and copy the newworld.sav from there. I hope that it works! 
Gildenlos= without a guild
kapitel= chapter
feuermagier=firemage
mercenary=söldner
dragonhunter=drachjäger
I hope this little translation helps you to find the right save for you, otherwise just ask again!
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Lehrling
Thanks for the help.
Do you know the german word for Militia/Paladin because I'm plying with the Paladin, and I don't understand the explanations of the site you suggested me.
Thanks.
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Deus
 Originally Posted by giacomo1968
Thanks for the help.
Do you know the german word for Militia/Paladin because I'm plying with the Paladin, and I don't understand the explanations of the site you suggested me.
Thanks.
It´s Miliz/Paladin in german !
There is no savegame for it. I will ask and search around.
Which Level you are, and which chapter you play???
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Lehrling
I'm at level 23 and I've finished all the missions of chapter 1. I've spoken with Lord Hagen and I'm ready to go to the valley of mines (but I'm blocked in front of the portal in the Add-on!).
Obviuosly, I'm a paladin.
Thank very much for the help.
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Deus
 Originally Posted by giacomo1968
I'm at level 23 and I've finished all the missions of chapter 1. I've spoken with Lord Hagen and I'm ready to go to the valley of mines (but I'm blocked in front of the portal in the Add-on!).
Obviuosly, I'm a paladin.
Thank very much for the help.
How can that be, you wrote this:
 Originally Posted by giacomo1968
The, I entered the portal to Night of the Raven addon. I've played and I've revolved the missions (kill Raven).
Now I'm trying to return to Khorinis with the same portal, but when I enter the game crushs with the following message:
So, it can´t be both!
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Moderator
@WernerTWC why can't it be both? Except the fact that he can't be a paladin as he said but I'm sure he was talking about militia he can go to hagen, receive the quest to go to the VOM but instead he can go to Jharkendar. After returning he can go to VOM. I did the same once.
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Deus
So what´s it???
Paladin or militia?
Just confirm me, that i´m right:
You have done all in Khorinis, then went to Jharkendar BUT not was in the VoM?!?!?
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Lehrling
yes, I'm in the Militia and I want to become a Paladin.
So, I started Gothic 2 and I played all the missions of chapter 1.
Then, before speaking with Lord Hagen and going to VOM, I follow Vatras and his missions, so I went to the portal, I pass it and I played the NOTR.
I finished NOTR (killed Raven), I spoke with Saturnas (who told me that Myrx was send to Vatras to help him), and I passed again the portal to come back to Khorinis (and Gothic 2).
BUT...... the game crush!
So, I'm imprisoned in the NOTR and I cannot come back to go on with the main story.
Now, I've download a savegame (with no guild) from that site you suggest me and I0ve found that the newworld.sav file works!
So now I'm trying to play with that file end to verify if the missions of the chapter 1 are already completed.
Util we are not able to find the real solution to this problem, I'll continue to play with that new file.
Thanks to everyone!
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Deus
Ok, then have fun without trouble in the game anymore i wish to you! 
Just one thing, i recommend to you and every user, save often on different slots to avoid such problems!
MfG (with kind regards), WernerTWC 
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Lehrling
 Originally Posted by WernerTWC
Ok, then have fun without trouble in the game anymore i wish to you! 
eh, eh, it would be to easy if the game wuold run perfectly...
Now, the Innos Shrine, the bed (for sleeping) and che chemical tables does not work!
What could I do (to not shoot the monitor!)?
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