Problem with Bloodwin

[MFH]

Hi, I'm new here

I have a problem with Bloodwin in the addon of Gothic 2: I spoke to Garaz, killed all the animals in the mine, but Garaz doesn't tell me anything and Bloodwin doesn't come.
What can I do? I don't want to redo all the game since there.

Tank you

[rockfest]

Hi, I'm new here

I have a problem with Bloodwin in the addon of Gothic 2: I spoke to Garaz, killed all the animals in the mine, but Garaz doesn't tell me anything and Bloodwin doesn't come.
What can I do? I don't want to redo all the game since there.

Tank you
Have you went in the abandoned temple? The one in the mine? :confused:

[Cyco]

Have u spoken to Garaz before?
r u shure that u killed all the animals?

by the way ... §welcome

[WernerTWC]

Hi, I'm new here

I have a problem with Bloodwin in the addon of Gothic 2: I spoke to Garaz, killed all the animals in the mine, but Garaz doesn't tell me anything and Bloodwin doesn't come.
What can I do? I don't want to redo all the game since there.

Tank you
Hi and §welcome to the Forum!

Well, maybe a crawler went somehow away,... you could try to teleport somewhere and then hit back there (or run,... let´s say to pirates camp and hit back),... maybe then you´ll find an overseen crawler.

[rockfest]

Well, maybe a crawler went somehow away,... you could try to teleport somewhere and then hit back there (or run,... let´s say to pirates camp and hit back),... maybe then you´ll find an overseen crawler.

short way of doing this : go to the teleport place at the begining of Jharkendar and go through the portal in the normal world. Then return to the mine and look for extra NPC's wich weren't killed. If you don't find solution to this then post back in here.

[MFH]

I went quite everywhere: I teleported to the watermages, to Korinis, I did all the missions I could, ... but nothing append: when I came back to the gold mine it's empty and Garaz don't say a word.
To answer rockfest, I went to the temple, collected all the objects I found there (nothing very usefull, if I remember well) and went back, but it's always the same.

[rockfest]

I went quite everywhere: I teleported to the watermages, to Korinis, I did all the missions I could, ... but nothing append: when I came back to the gold mine it's empty and Garaz don't say a word.
To answer rockfest, I went to the temple, collected all the objects I found there (nothing very usefull, if I remember well) and went back, but it's always the same.
Is in the journal log saying something like this : " Bloodwyn only comes in the mine if something important happens." I can't remember the exact words and if i can remember well you have to talk with someone to tell you that Bloodwin will enter the mine if the creatures are killed. Try to speak with the guys in there and see what they have to say.

[Zaratul]

§welcome to the forum

if U have killed all the Crawlers the he should come to this guard .... or have U looked inside this cave? Maybe he is in this cave where were Minecrawlers....???

[WernerTWC]

Garaz should spoke automaticly with you, not by talking to him... maybe run around Garaz sometimes till he speaks to you.

If this dosen´t help, then you only can cheat or try a older savegame.

[MFH]

Is in the journal log saying something like this : " Bloodwyn only comes in the mine if something important happens." I can't remember the exact words and if i can remember well you have to talk with someone to tell you that Bloodwin will enter the mine if the creatures are killed. Try to speak with the guys in there and see what they have to say.

Yes, if you speak with the guard at the entrance of the temple. As before nothing happend.


Garaz should spoke automaticly with you, not by talking to him... maybe run around Garaz sometimes till he speaks to you.

If this dosen´t help, then you only can cheat or try a older savegame..

I tried to run around him for a few, went into the mine and back again, etc...
The big problem is that I don't have an older savegame because I didn't think it was such an important mission. I don't like this way of playing, but if someone knows the cheat to unlock the situation (possibly not very far in the story) I'll be very gratefull.

[rockfest]

Bloodwyn will definitely leave the temple when he finds out that a new gold vein has been found in the mine.
This is the condition for Bloodwyn to come in the mine. You have to find something in the mine...some gold "vein", i don't know what means. You should have this in the journal log from the dialogue you had with Garaz.

To be honest IMO i don't remember this thing...i played the notr along time ago but this is what i found in the scripts. About the cheating thing...i don't know any way of starting a routine from the Marvin console.

[WernerTWC]

Don´t you think it´s enough to insert bloodwyn, or maybe his head?!?

Here you can read how to cheat:

The Marvin Database (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=89168)

code for bloodwyn:
Bdt_1085_Addon_Bloodwyn

code for bloodwyns-head:
ItMi_Addon_Bloodwyn_Kopf

[rockfest]

Don´t you think it´s enough to insert bloodwyn, or maybe his head?!?

Here you can read how to cheat:

The Marvin Database (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=89168)

code for bloodwyn:
Bdt_1085_Addon_Bloodwyn

code for bloodwyns-head:
ItMi_Addon_Bloodwyn_Kopf
:) Nice ideea but if i were to bet that when he will insert that instance of Bloodwyn he won't have much to say? Except...i just saw something. It might work...i don't know. Let's just hope it does work.

But only one thing...even if he manage to insert bloodwyn in the mine there is another instance of bloodwyn in the temple waiting for his quest to finish.

@MFH save before you do this... ;)

[cipris]

You "collected" the gold in that mine? Maybe if you digging the 2 lumps of ore, Bloodwin will come.

[rockfest]

You "collected" the gold in that mine? Maybe if you digging the 2 lumps of ore, Bloodwin will come.
I don't know....i just found this in the script wich has the dialogue with Garaz.

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You speak something with him(don't know what cause it is in german) and this should appear in the journal.

Here is the dialogue wich makes Bloodwyn to come in the mine :
Hero : So, das sollte es gewesen sein. Die Crawler sind erledigt.
Garaz : Bloodwyn ist schon auf dem Weg. Das ist doch das, was du wolltest, oder?
Garaz : Ich meine, du hast die Crawler abgemetzelt, damit Bloodwyn herkommt. Also, was immer du vorhast, tu es JETZT.
Now Bloodwyn starts coming into the mine.

The condition for that dialgue to happen is this :
-Minecrawler_Killed >= 9 -> this means that you have to kill at least 9 of them;
-!Npc_IsDead (Bloodwyn) -> this means that the dialogue from up there will happen only if Bloodwyn is still alive....

In order to Bloodwyn to come into the mine both conditions must be true. If you have killed at least 9 minecrawlers and you didn't killed Bloodwyn before in the game Bloodwyn should come into the mine. If he doesn't then it's an official bug IMO.

later edit: @sowilo :D my mistake...sorry

[cipris]

Try to dig that gold, maybe it will work.

Bloodwyn will definitely leave the temple when he finds out that a new gold vein has been found in the mine.
And maybe the 2 lump of ore is the "new gold vein"........

[Sowilo]

Hero : So, das sollte es gewesen sein. Die Crawler sind erledigt.
Garaz : Bloodwyn ist schon auf dem Weg. Das ist doch das, was du wolltest, oder?
Hero : Ich meine, du hast die Crawler abgemetzelt, damit Bloodwyn herkommt. Also, was immer du vorhast, tu es JETZT.
Hero: That was it. The Crawlers r killed.
Garaz: Bloodwyn is on the way to here, that is what u wanted to hear isn't it?
Hero - not Garaz?: I mean, u killed the Crawlers to get Bloodwyn to here. Whatever u want to do do it NOW!

[MFH]

I digged all the gold in the mine, so no problem with it, but maybe the problem is that I didn't kill all the crawlers because I was too weak in that moment and I let them follow me until I reached Garaz. Maybe the solution is here. Do you think something can happend if I kill some others crowlers in others mines?

[rockfest]

I digged all the gold in the mine, so no problem with it, but maybe the problem is that I didn't kill all the crawlers because I was too weak in that moment and I let them follow me until I reached Garaz. Maybe the solution is here. Do you think something can happend if I kill some others crowlers in others mines?
You mean that you didn't killed all the minecrawlers? Garaz killed some of them? I think that this is your problem :confused: . let me build you a small little "patch" for this. It will take a few minutes but tell me if you have NOTR with the english translation mod or if you have the original english one.

[DeadlyArrow]

In one forum I just read about the same problem. Some ppl solved it by killing guards at the entrance of temple - in it you will find Bloodwin, kill him, etc.

[MFH]

I have the italian version. If you tell me what do I have to tranlsate I can do it without problems.

[rockfest]

I have the italian version. If you tell me what do I have to tranlsate I can do it without problems.
You won't have to do anything. But I'm sorry because you will have the english version from now on :( . Give me a few minutes and i will come back.

Edit : Ok! Done. Can you give me your e-mail address? If you don't want to say it in public just PM my with the address. Ok? Btw, i don't promise anything...

[MFH]

send it at mfh_private@msn.com. I have to thank you very much.

[rockfest]

send it at mfh_private@msn.com. I have to thank you very much.
Right now is it sending. You will receive the mail soon. I have writen the instructions in there.

greetz...

[MFH]

Can you please just zip the file because this stupid mail doesn't let me download an exe file. Sorry to bother you again.

[rockfest]

Can you please just zip the file because this stupid mail doesn't let me download an exe file. Sorry to bother you again.
*click* (http://www.gothic-pics.xhost.ro) here to get the file. I put it in a rar anyway. Look for : "CLICK HERE FOR BLoodwyn problem



Hy! First...i didn't managed to put all the scripts and dialogues so you will have the same language as before. The dialogue has changed in german. In order to find what you need in the dialogue look at this (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=1629135&#post1629135) post from me, write the dialogue on a piece of paper and when you are talking with Garaz just try to find the same texts like on the paper. Ok?
If you have other problems just post on the forum. If the problem is solved do the same...post on the forum so i can know.
PS : Install the "patch" in Gothic main folder, where there are the folders : _work, system, and so on.

Later edit: Sorry for the bad link. I had to go to the store and when i returned i saw that my net broke down. I have edited the link. :(

[MFH]

perfect, many thanks §danke

[rockfest]

perfect, many thanks §danke
So it worked no? Say that it worked...please :confused:

[WernerTWC]

So it worked no? Say that it worked...please :confused:
*loooool* how much better should it be than "perfect"??? :D ;) :p

I think it works perfectly!

Edit:


so i deserve my little party after all... :D

...and you deserve a little smiley:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/mmsm/seng3/seng21507.gif

[rockfest]

*loooool* how much better should it be than "perfect"??? :D ;) :p

I think it works perfectly!
so i deserve my little party after all... :D
cheers to me :rolleyes: ...
:rolleyes: too many beers i think.. :p

[MFH]

Well, I said "perfect" because I had the patch, but it doest'n work. When you said to install it in the main folder, did you intend to put the file in the Gothic II directory or in the Gothic II/_work/Data/Scripts/_compiled (I did the second one)?

[WernerTWC]

Well, I said "perfect" because I had the patch, but it doest'n work. When you said to install it in the main folder, did you intend to put the file in the Gothic II directory or in the Gothic II/_work/Data/Scripts/_compiled (I did the second one)?
I think you should try the first you guessed! ;)
The main-folder should called "Gothic II", put it in that folder.

[rockfest]

Well, I said "perfect" because I had the patch, but it doest'n work. When you said to install it in the main folder, did you intend to put the file in the Gothic II directory or in the Gothic II/_work/Data/Scripts/_compiled (I did the second one)?
Ok...if you know that folder then you should know that in the archive you have Gothic.dat . Put that in /_work/Data/Scripts/_compiled . That should resolve the problem.

[MFH]

Yes, but in the rar filr the gothic.dat was in the folder I chose

[MFH]

Ok...if you know that folder then you should know that in the archive you have Gothic.dat . Put that in /_work/Data/Scripts/_compiled . That should resolve the problem.

That's what I did, but it's like before. Is there a code with the marvin console to add some scrawenger (if it works)?

[rockfest]

That's what I did, but it's like before. Is there a code with the marvin console to add some scrawenger (if it works)?
No...there is no code...sorry.
Wasn't Garaz speaking in german? :confused:

[MFH]

No...there is no code...sorry.
Wasn't Garaz speaking in german? :confused:

There was only "ENDE" instead of "FINE" (end) but he didn't talk to me

[WernerTWC]

Insert code for Minecrawler is "minecrawler".

Or have you tried that:


Don´t you think it´s enough to insert bloodwyn, or maybe his head?!?

Here you can read how to cheat:

The Marvin Database (http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=89168)

code for bloodwyn:
Bdt_1085_Addon_Bloodwyn

code for bloodwyns-head:
ItMi_Addon_Bloodwyn_Kopf

or that:


In one forum I just read about the same problem. Some ppl solved it by killing guards at the entrance of temple - in it you will find Bloodwin, kill him, etc.

:confused:

[MFH]

I can kill the guards but it's a little hard...
I'll see if the code for the minecrawlers works with the mission tomorrow.

Thanks everyboby for the help and for the patience...

[cipris]

Try to insert some minecrawlers in the mine

[WernerTWC]

I can kill the guards but it's a little hard...
I'll see if the code for the minecrawlers works with the mission tomorrow.

Thanks everyboby for the help and for the patience...
No problem! (I think i can say this in the name of all helpers) :)
But if you solve it, then please let us know and also about how you solved it! (I am nosy).

[rockfest]

now if this doesn't work then i will jump out of the window. I really hope that you made a backup of that Gothic.dat . If not...then i hope that it will work anyway. Do this :
b
marvin
b
F2
insert GoldMinecrawler }do this 9 times but do it somehwere where you are alone
F2
b
42
b
Now this should work.

[MFH]

No more problems: I killed the guards at the entrance of the temple and then Bloodwyn and now the mission is solved. Thank you all for your help and your patience. §danke